In post 368, Vaxkiller wrote:So you know he usually doesn't do anything day 1, but can easily be spotted as scum if he continues his lurk on later days?
My last unfinished game w creature was a while ago but all I recall is not thinking his play is anything special.
Which is why I think it's shady that so many people are clamoring to keep votes off him. Like I'm not saying u people should be voting him but he's done nothing in this game to warrant a defense from anybody.
It's the scum/town comparative that's considered important. You need to have seen both (personally I've only skimmed his scum haven't finished a game vs it yet).
In post 87, Charles510 wrote:VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.
I see I'm gonna need an inhaler for this page.
Correction: I will need an inhaler for your one-line posts, creature.
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Did an ISO on scioness, vax, & wavemode:
scioness & vax keep defending creature - who has posted a little more on pgs like 16-18. Later vax makes what looks like an opportunistic vote on scioness, while she votes asuka.
wavemode naked votes osuka, votes texcat as a joke or rvs post?, votes the charles slot due to him asking a game setup question, does a prodge post.
In post 163, texcat wrote:I agree with A50 about Creature, but am willing to give Creature the benefit of doubt for the moment. Sometimes people do just get busy with their real lives.
Not the texcat I used to know 2
You said this same thing the last game we played together and I was town then too.
In post 284, Hopkirk wrote:How my mind works
-Start of d1 is to interact with people and form reads on them.
-I want to interact with Lalandra but nobody else does. No need to interact with Edo as there's a wagon which is a subsitute.
-Vote Lalandra.
1) You say that I am one of the bad votes on the A50 wagon but never explained why, unless I missed it - can you do so now? Not sure why mine is different than the others.
2) I don't remember anyone saying they don't want to interact with me, but I'm here so interact away.
In post 97, Almost50 wrote:17. Andriod18+ (Scum. Forgetting to post "here" = already posting in the Scum PT)
If you were serious on this, we're on the same page.
I can see that but I read it more as forgetting that the mod required us to post in pre-game in addition to confirming privately, which is normally all that's required.
In post 461, Creature wrote:wtf page 6 is like trying to guess how many scum there are? What's the point?
I think it can be helpful when trying to determine associatives, do you not agree?
I guess it could also be someone going "hey look I'm not scum because I'm trying to figure out how many there are and if I was scum I'd already know!!!"
In post 284, Hopkirk wrote:How my mind works
-Start of d1 is to interact with people and form reads on them.
-I want to interact with Lalandra but nobody else does. No need to interact with Edo as there's a wagon which is a subsitute.
-Vote Lalandra.
1) You say that I am one of the bad votes on the A50 wagon but never explained why, unless I missed it - can you do so now? Not sure why mine is different than the others.
2) I don't remember anyone saying they don't want to interact with me, but I'm here so interact away.
Ok, I did semi cover it in 276 like I thought.
You were 'engagin' with A50 in a way that doesn't look useful in helping you sort him at the expense of sorting other people.7
-You weren't calling out specifics or anything, it was playstyle. Nothing hard there, nothing he can really respond to beyond 'I play like this sometimes'.
-If you can't work out what he's doing, the vote won't necesarily help you read him. Despite this, you vote him but don't really interacts with other people. Gives impression you're less interesting in forming wider reads.
-As above, it isn't obvious why A50 is your top/only priority to sort.
So interactions outside+with A50 both make it feel different.
-Briefly- overfocused on Almost50 without obvious town motivation. Reads as alternative to giving content.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:35 am
by Hopkirk
Something like this sounds right
Town: Almost 50/JJD/Creature/Wheme/Charles(Vaxkiller)/Myloninja/KK/Dunn
Townish: Pine/Scion/Lovebird
Neutral/POE 1 pool: Robster, Android/ Flavor leaf/ Wave/Rampage/(Arc/ETL- considered in very light town)
POE 2 pool: Performer, Edosurist, Ausuka, Lalendra, Osuka, Texcat
Robster is the only active person in my neutral pile. Someone help me read him.
Town: Almost 50/JJD/Creature/Wheme/Charles(Vaxkiller)/Myloninja/KK/Dunn
Townish: Pine/Scion/Lovebird
Neutral/POE 1 pool: Robster, Android/ Flavor leaf/ Wave/Rampage/(Arc/ETL- considered in very light town)
POE 2 pool: Performer, Edosurist, Ausuka, Lalendra, Osuka, Texcat
Robster is the only active person in my neutral pile. Someone help me read him.
I mostly agree with your Town list. But can you explain how Myloninja snuck in there?
Re Robster, the unvote was odd. His reads mostly disagree with mine. But I haven't seen anything I would blatantly call scummy.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:09 am
by Hopkirk
Rereading mylo, I think I attributed a good post to him that he didn't actually make.
Slightly like him on tone for 233, but would put him around Arc/ETL.
Thanks for the assist.
In post 284, Hopkirk wrote:How my mind works
-Start of d1 is to interact with people and form reads on them.
-I want to interact with Lalandra but nobody else does. No need to interact with Edo as there's a wagon which is a subsitute.
-Vote Lalandra.
1) You say that I am one of the bad votes on the A50 wagon but never explained why, unless I missed it - can you do so now? Not sure why mine is different than the others.
2) I don't remember anyone saying they don't want to interact with me, but I'm here so interact away.
Ok, I did semi cover it in 276 like I thought.
You were 'engagin' with A50 in a way that doesn't look useful in helping you sort him at the expense of sorting other people.7
-You weren't calling out specifics or anything, it was playstyle. Nothing hard there, nothing he can really respond to beyond 'I play like this sometimes'.
-If you can't work out what he's doing, the vote won't necesarily help you read him. Despite this, you vote him but don't really interacts with other people. Gives impression you're less interesting in forming wider reads.
-As above, it isn't obvious why A50 is your top/only priority to sort.
So interactions outside+with A50 both make it feel different.
-Briefly- overfocused on Almost50 without obvious town motivation. Reads as alternative to giving content.
There wasn't much to go on at that point. I voted A50 because I didn't like his early posts. Then I did, so I unvoted him. I'm not going to try to generate content where there is none, I respond to things as I see fit. That's how I play.
I'd bump Pine up to solid town. No real strong feelings on the the other 2 but I can buy em as town. Scion a little moreso.
In post 579, Hopkirk wrote:Neutral/POE 1 pool: Robster, Android/ Flavor leaf/ Wave/Rampage/(Arc/ETL- considered in very light town)
POE 2 pool: Performer, Edosurist, Ausuka, Lalendra, Osuka, Texcat
Performer is a slight townread for me and as u know I like Robster.
In post 579, Hopkirk wrote:Robster is the only active person in my neutral pile. Someone help me read him.
Well what's ur problem w/ him? He's doing things. nothing really scummy that I can see.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:24 am
by Andriod18
Lalendra's posting feels honest and earnest. I don't mind having her as town. Hop I want to know more about your JJD townread, I can understand Creature/myloin to some degree but the JJD and Wheme ones are the interesting ones on that list.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:26 am
by Andriod18
I suppose lurking and waiting for a wagon to show up isn't going to go well is it? Hm, alright I'll keep up with this game then from here out.
In post 357, Dunnstral wrote:Even better, why don't you tell me about your reads. This game is kind of difficult to get into with a50 talking nonsense and Osuka being pretty blatant scum
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:52 am
by Ircher
Prodding Wavemode (2d 1h). They have (expired on 2018-06-22 16:52:38) to respond in-thread.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:57 am
by Andriod18
Spoiler: Love bird
Lovebird is my most confident scumread for the following posts.
In post 20, Lovebird wrote:Screenplay and Creature confirmed but not posted.
This post feels like shade for no reason it's not needed why did they ask this 'they wanted to point it out'
In post 210, Lalendra wrote:This is very unlike your tone in other games we've played and I'm not sure if you're just trying something new or if you're really as scummy as you're making yourself sound, and that's almost impossible to believe but as of yet I have no other explanation
Sorry Ircher and everybody. 25 players and 13 pages already. Too much for me to keep up with and post any kind of intelligent analysis.
Ircher asked me to sign up as a favor and I did. There's a reason I don't play mafia. I am no good at mafia and I don't really enjoy it. I'll be over in the mish mash forum.
Please go ahead and replace me out.
this reads to me as someone that didnt want to roll scum but did.
This is towny.
Posts like the 2 above are very lazy and feel like posting just for the sake of posting. I'd love for a lovebird wagon to start to get the pressure on them.
(Not to mention the post above isn't even towny in fact it's quite bad.)
This was mentioned in the queue thread, but I shall mention it again here to ensure that everyone is aware and so that everyone can find this information easily.
This game is confirmed to contain solely town-aligned players and mafia-aligned players. In other words, there are no Werewolves, there are no Serial Killers, and there are no second Mafia groups.
Btw, I claim
Survivor
. Ircher forgot to explicitly announce there are none of those (it's implied, but not explicitly stated), so I'd like to claim it now to prevent him from announcing it later.
Also, I'm Ascetic Hider with 1-shot of BP/PGO on odd nights. In even nights I'm a compulsive Commuter. You simply can't touch me.
FINALLY! The "I'm gonna follow Khan here." soft-clears KK and implicates Edo. It's almost like he's saying he knows I'm town and is already blaming it on KK. Bad bad vote here.
VOTE: Edosurist
My fellow townies, follow me. Are you ready to lynch a mafioso?
I assume the survivor claim was fake and leading into this second post feels really towny coming from A50. He wanted reactions and he's leading with them i'm confident in town A50.
I already said I townread Lalendra.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:01 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 597, Andriod18 wrote:(Not to mention the post above isn't even towny in fact it's quite bad.)
We're not even sure which post Lovebird's referring to, mine or Charles's.
Which one are u saying is bad?
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:06 am
by Ircher
I'm also seeking a replacement for Edosurist who has failed to pick up their prod. They can keep their slot if they return before I find a replacement.
