@BlueBloodedToffee, can I can call you BBT for short? Have you caught up with all the posts?
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:51 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
I haven't read all of the posts yet, no. Trying to get some interactions going.
BBT is good.
What are your thoughts on Alianna and Whiskey?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:05 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
VOTE: Alianna
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:35 am
by whiskey delta
A lot of your questions would be answered if you finished reading. D1 was a mess, yes, but you have the added advantage of reading everything for the first time with flips in mind. Remember that not all of us had that benefit before you start to push narratives (especially before finishing your read)
This is only going to fuel BBT’s theory that he is already projecting, but I may be coming full circle on Alanna.
If me, her, Tidus and hutmeil are all Town that leaves [Mala, BBT, Greeting]
And I have rather liked Greeting so far this D2
@BBT - your predecessor called me obvTown. I’d like to know why disagree by the time you end your reread if you still do
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:35 am
by whiskey delta
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mala
Into the darkness I go.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:38 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
What my predecessor said literally has no bearing on anything. I am scum reading you, what my predecessor did means exactly fuck all. You trying to use that as some sort of reasoning for why I shouldn't be scum reading you is awful.
I will finish reading at some point. For now though, I would like to eliminate Alianna or yourself. That full circle is funny.
Why is Alianna town?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:41 am
by whiskey delta
Finish reading and see if you can figure it out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:42 am
by whiskey delta
You should see that I had nothing to do with FG getting ran up the second time and only switched to hammer.
I’ve flipped my read on that slot twice now. Is that more likely scum or Town?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:49 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Depends on the flow of the game
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:59 am
by whiskey delta
Uh huh. The flow you would need to see by reading, right?
Which you haven’t done…. But are still setting us up as teammates. From page 5 reads. In a 24 page long game…
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:15 am
by Tidus of the X
In post 580, whiskey delta wrote:A lot of your questions would be answered if you finished reading. D1 was a mess, yes, but you have the added advantage of reading everything for the first time with flips in mind. Remember that not all of us had that benefit before you start to push narratives (especially before finishing your read)
This is only going to fuel BBT’s theory that he is already projecting, but I may be coming full circle on Alanna.
If me, her, Tidus and hutmeil are all Town that leaves [Mala, BBT, Greeting]
And I have rather liked Greeting so far this D2
@BBT - your predecessor called me obvTown. I’d like to know why disagree by the time you end your reread if you still do
So what you're saying is that Mala and BBT are highly likely scum?
In post 580, whiskey delta wrote:A lot of your questions would be answered if you finished reading. D1 was a mess, yes, but you have the added advantage of reading everything for the first time with flips in mind. Remember that not all of us had that benefit before you start to push narratives (especially before finishing your read)
This is only going to fuel BBT’s theory that he is already projecting, but I may be coming full circle on Alanna.
If me, her, Tidus and hutmeil are all Town that leaves [Mala, BBT, Greeting]
And I have rather liked Greeting so far this D2
@BBT - your predecessor called me obvTown. I’d like to know why disagree by the time you end your reread if you still do
So what you're saying is that Mala and BBT are highly likely scum?
My read hinges entirely on Alianna’s alignment. She is the puzzle piece that if I can figure out I think I will have the game solved. Eliminating her is the only surefire way of doing this, but if I can maybe read her instead that prevents me from potentially pushing in the wrong direction again. Right now I’d say town and that might be the hill I die on. Unless it’s her/hutmeil exactly then she is probably just Town.
In a D1 where most of the fighting was between me, Roden, and FG - where do you think the scum go? I TR 72 really hard for going in a new direction D1 but if they were just staying out of the mess and pushing a new Townie wagon that also makes sense. I need to read more but I don’t remember 72 making comments about Mala and she only called him null iirc. BBT’s comment to Mala about “better be off that wagon” bugs me (which she wasn’t btw. Her vote just didn’t count)
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:02 am
by whiskey delta
This is going to sound stupid but one reason I’m doubting my Alianna SR is because I put a lot of weight into players’ involvement. There have been spurts where I thought Alianna was more fluff than solve but she’s still new so maybe I need to skew that perspective. I think her
being here
is a good thing more likely than not. Like I said if she’s scum she waited all the way thru hammer to watch FG go. Not impossible but that would be some wolfy shit for a first timer.
Maybe I am focusing too hard on the wagonomics and ignoring the possibility scum could have just stayed away completely.
BBT howling on his intro doesn’t help either. Seriously, read the game before you push narratives.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:15 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
I read the game. I got 2 scum reads in 5 pages, why read more?
Fighting between 3 people on D1 and 2 of them are conf town? Highly unlikely to be 3 townies, me thinks.
I expected Mala to be off the wagon because Furtive was obvtown in the first 2 pages. I think Mala probably picks up on that.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:32 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Read up to page 15, Whiskey is still scum.
Also, the timing of Greeting's push on Furtive as it looks like an Alianna wagon could potentially take off is noted.
Feel good that scum is here; Whiskey, Alianna and Greeting.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:40 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Whiskey had a good couple of pages there, 16 and 17. Really liked your posting.
Hmm, Alianna is still a scum read and she has to go Today.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:42 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Also, scum had it way too easy in this game. 2 townies going at it and the scum sit back and watch. Roden was really tunneling as well, didn't use his conf town status very well.
Feel like I stopped reading at a cliffhanger. A wagon is building on Alianna and there are no counter-wagons at all, yet. Excited to read the next chapter.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:52 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
In post 465, furtiveglance wrote:
Final Reads:
Roden (uncced Cop)
whiskey delta
72offsuit
Mala
Tidus of the X
hutmeil
Alianna
Greeting
This is me showing you, FG, that conf town reads should not be forgotten!
This reads list is great, by the way. Mala a little too high and Hutmeil a little too low, but yeah., good stuff.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:55 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
That wagon on FG was quick.
Greeting and Alianna on it, too. One of these two absolutely has to be eliminated Today.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:59 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
In post 504, Alianna wrote:
I don't have the time or energy right now to analyze any of this, but a couple things to note. It's interesting that everyone was either on or off of both major wagons.
If we consider my wagon when it was at E-2...
Alianna - 72offsuit, whiskey delta,
furtiveglance
...then we see that Mala and Tidus were on none of those (Mala didn't vote D1 and Tidus stuck to his RVS vote) and whiskey was on all three.
Make of it what you will, I guess? I'll probably follow this up at some point but wanted to note this stuff now.
Ah, the old throw some shit at the wall and see what sticks. Plant seeds for Town and then let someone else run with it.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:05 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
I'm caught up. Greeting has been scum reading Alianna for a while now with no vote. Interesting.
I'm only eliminating between Greeting and Alianna Today. Nobody else.
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 11:52 am
by Greeting
I am back. To be fair, I cannot move on without this elimination.
Alianna
has a high chance of flipping red. If it's not
Alianna
, then I am thinking that this game definitely has a deepwolf mastermind and there's only one suitable candidate,