Newbie 2095 | Game over

ISO · Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 10:37 am

Newbie 2095
reasons why ducks are the best birds!

Moderator:

the worst

Player List:

whiskey delta ^{replaced syugar}
hutmeil
Tidus of the X
furtiveglance
Malakittens ^{replaced takotsubo syndrome (alt of the same user), who replaced KHall76}
Alianna
BlueBloodedToffee ^{replaced 72offsuit (SE)}
Roden (SE)
Greeting (SE)

Spoiler: alive players

Spoiler: dead players and flips

ISO · Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 10:38 am

rules

stolen, with little shame, from datisi who

shamelessly stole

was inspired by plotinus' and schadd_'s rulesets.

the tl;dr:

~ day 1: 10 days. days 2+: 7 days. nights: 2 days.
~ majority eliminates.
~ 36 hour before prod, 24 hours before replacement.
~ if you want to replace out, pm me.
~ flavour has no bearing on the setup or player alignments.
~ don't be a dick.

the basics:

~ follow all site rules.
~ my mod colour is the default mafiascum colour depending on which forum skin you use. I'd recommend that you use it freely. please don't impersonate me.
~ you may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads i have created for this purpose. you may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.
~

if you wish to replace out, pm me, do not request replacement in thread.

do not discuss your reasons for replacing out publically. do not threaten to replace out or tell other players to replace out. if you have any concerns that a player should be replaced, pm me.
~ do not quote pm's from the mod at all, either real or fabricated. this includes specific timestamps. paraphrasing is acceptable.
~

don’t be a dick.

this is a heated game but toxicity will not be tolerated. attack the play not the player. if your fellow players tell you to stop, you must stop. if you do not stop, i will tell you to stop. if you still do not stop, you will be force-replaced.
~

flavour is just flavour, and has no bearing on the setup or player alignments.

don't use it to make arguments.
~ play to win. seriously claiming scum with another player is against the rules. i will judge what counts as serious - don't toe the line.
~ if you have any questions about the rules, feel free to pm me.

days and voting:

~ day 1 lasts up to 10 real-life days. days 2+ last up to 7 real-life days.
~ extensions may or may not be granted if there are replacements, or if the circumstances call for it (for example, if the site was experiencing issues).
~ votes must be in bold in the format VOTE: the worst or

vote: the worst

. Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. unvotes are nice but not required. type [

v]the worst[

/v] to vote and [

uv]the worst[

/uv] to unvote.
~ you can use nicknames when voting, as long as it is clear who you're referring to.
~ if i think it’s a vote, it’s a vote.
~ days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to eliminate somebody.
~ if a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no elimination, the day will end without an elimination. at evens, 50% is sufficient for no elimination.
~ twilight begins when a majority is reached and lasts until i lock the thread. you're still alive until i flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then, but no votes or unvotes will be counted.

activity and v/la:

~ you must post at least once every 36 hours or i will prod you. you then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or i will replace you. if you come back before i find a replacement, you can stay.
~ if i have to prod you for the fourth time, i will automatically start searching for a replacement.
~ if you haven't posted in the 24 hours before the thread is locked for night, you must reply to the night start pm or you will be replaced during the night.
~ players can request me to prod somebody early. this will only count as an official prod if you don't post before you would have been due for a prod.
~ if you need to be absent for longer than 36 hours, you should declare

v/la

in bold in the thread like this: [

b]

@mod: I will be v/la until thursday

[

/b]. while you are v/la, you will be nudged once every 60 hours. two nudges equals one prod. if you have not posted game advancing content in 5 days, regardless of v/la status, you will be replaced.
~ a naked "prod dodge" does not reset the prod timer. to avoid being prodded/replaced for inactivity, include some game advancing content in your prodges, such as "got prodded; the worst is still scum."

nights and night actions:

~ nights last 48 hours.
~ the night phase can be shortened if every living player -- even those with no night actions -- agrees to it and if I'm not busy.
~ you may submit actions via pm. if you have a scum pt, a mason pt, or a notes pt, you may also submit your actions there. if the actions are not submitted by the deadline then you do nothing. you can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.
~ if i don't hear from you about your night actions, i'll pm you 24 hours before the deadline. this doesn't count as a prod. if i still don't hear from you, you will take no action.

miscellaneous:

~ let me know if you want a private thread to store your thoughts and feedback for the other players. you may draft posts in your notes pt if the posts are clearly meant to be posted in the main thread. you may talk about your notes pt. you may not directly quote from your notes pt, and you may not use it to demonstrate that you've had a town mindset in private all along; just put your town mindset in public to begin with and keep your notes to yourself.
~ provable randomness is against the rules. saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org screenshots is not.
~ no hard to read / extremely small text. cryptography is forbidden. breadcrumbing is okay.
~ using scripts to alter or hide another player's posts is not allowed.
~ the only allowed media is embedded content, or links to uneditable content. for example, you are not allowed to link vocaroos and pastebins in the thread.
~ very big images and big chunks of non-game-related text are allowed, as long as they are spoiled. if you post them without a spoiler, i will edit a spoiler in.
~ the mod may make mistakes. minor errors (such as a mistake in the vote count) can be pointed out in-thread. for bigger errors, please pm me.
~ i reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as i see fit. you will be notified if this happens.

ISO · Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 10:39 am

Setup Information

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Mason and Town Mason	Town Tracker and Town Doctor	Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role.
The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goon

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: List of Setups

Spoiler: Sample Role PM's

Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a

Town Mason

.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

ISO · Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 10:40 am

Introduction and Tips

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

ISO · Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 10:57 am

Role PMs are out! Day one of Newbie 2095 will begin at 7/9 confirmations.

So far: [7/9]!!!!

ISO · Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 11:57 am

whiskey delta replaces syugar.

ISO · Post Post #6 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2022 1:03 pm

vote count 1.00

Did you know ducks have accents? City ducks have a different voice than country ducks, and are usually louder!

Not Voting (9): whiskey delta, hutmeil, Tidus of the X, furtiveglance, KHall76, Alianna, 72offsuit, Roden, Greeting

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to reach an elimination.

Day one will end in (expired on 2022-06-04 10:00:00)

Mod notes:

Day one begins!!
KHall76 and 72offsuit have until (expired on 2022-05-26 09:30:00) to confirm their roles, or they will be replaced.

Roden · Post Post #7 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2022 1:25 pm

Let's start this off.

VOTE: Whiskey

Alianna · Post Post #8 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2022 1:37 pm

DUCK SUPREMACY!!!

VOTE: Roden

furtiveglance · Post Post #9 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2022 2:34 pm

Oh cool the game started!!! I put an exclamation mark to mirror Alianna and make them subconsciously townread me.

Greeting · Post Post #10 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2022 2:54 pm

Let's go!

VOTE: Alianna

Alianna · Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2022 2:55 pm

In post 9, furtiveglance wrote:Oh cool the game started!!! I put an exclamation mark to mirror Alianna and make them subconsciously townread me.

There was no need, I'm already informed you're town.

furtiveglance · Post Post #12 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2022 2:56 pm

In post 11, Alianna wrote:
In post 9, furtiveglance wrote:Oh cool the game started!!! I put an exclamation mark to mirror Alianna and make them subconsciously townread me.
There was no need, I'm already informed you're town.

That's massive.

Alianna · Post Post #13 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2022 3:17 pm

So who wants to be nightkilled first?

whiskey delta · Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2022 3:25 pm

VOTE: Tidus of the X

quack

hutmeil · Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2022 7:08 pm

In post 7, Roden wrote:Let's start this off.

VOTE: Whiskey

Why?

hutmeil · Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2022 7:16 pm

I guess since this is Day 1, all the current votes are senseless.

My notes:

Alianna
- was informed that furtiveglance is Town?? (Mason or Friendly Neighbor?)
- asks who wants to be nightkilled (sus)

Tidus of the X · Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue May 24, 2022 11:39 pm

Let's go!

VOTE: hutmeil

Alianna · Post Post #18 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 1:56 am

In post 16, hutmeil wrote:I guess since this is Day 1, all the current votes are senseless.

My notes:

Alianna
- was informed that furtiveglance is Town?? (Mason or Friendly Neighbor?)
- asks who wants to be nightkilled (sus)

Ah. 11 was actually trying to imply I was mafia. I like being sus on purpose in RVS.
Note for everyone, it is generally not a good idea to out yourself as PR/VT or speculate about who the PRs/VTs are at this point in the game, reason being that you’re doing the mafia’s PR-hunting for them. We should be fine, just something to keep in mind.
FN also doesn’t target during the pregame, only N1 and onwards.

Alianna · Post Post #19 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 2:05 am

In post 15, hutmeil wrote:
In post 7, Roden wrote:Let's start this off.

VOTE: Whiskey
Why?

This is RVS (Random Voting Stage). Site meta is that we all vote randomly until somehow the game advances out of it. I have my doubts about how effective it is (at least the way that people tend to do it), but it is a thing here.

72offsuit · Post Post #20 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 2:17 am

Vote: Furtive

What reason do I have to give?

Posting without voting for someone.
My job here is done.

Scum +++++: Furtive

???: whiskey
hut
Tidus
KHall
Alianna
Roden
Greeting

Town +++++: 72os

RVS is officially complete
I'm off, it's time to eat.

whiskey delta · Post Post #21 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 2:33 am

Alianna already admitted they know Furtive is town though

Scum is Alianna + 72

gg

whiskey delta · Post Post #22 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 2:36 am

How long has everyone been playing? Outta curiosity

I used to play a lot but it’s probably been about ~3 years since I did last. My home website went the way of the dodo sadly

furtiveglance · Post Post #23 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 4:29 am

In post 22, whiskey delta wrote:How long has everyone been playing? Outta curiosity

I used to play a lot but it’s probably been about ~3 years since I did last. My home website went the way of the dodo sadly

I've been playing for a few months here.

Here are my completed town games: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=88666, https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=89004, https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=89124

And my completed scum games: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=89137, https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=89296

So far I've won 1/5 completed games

Tidus of the X · Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed May 25, 2022 5:21 am

In post 21, whiskey delta wrote:Alianna already admitted they know Furtive is town though

Scum is Alianna + 72

gg

In post 22, whiskey delta wrote:How long has everyone been playing? Outta curiosity

I used to play a lot but it’s probably been about ~3 years since I did last. My home website went the way of the dodo sadly

This is my second game here, though i currently cannot mention what game I was in