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Final note before I sleep
I think people underestimate how deep of a mind/social game Mafia can be.
It's literally one of those games people can play while putting down their societal barriers on how they communicate with someone.
It brings people back to a raw mentality of how to socialize, how to interpret people, and how to solve problems among a group of people who share a mutual interest or are trying to deter that mutual interest from accomplishing anything.
That's why emotional outbursts can happen from most people regardless of alignment, and why actions by themselves in mafia are NAI a lot of the time.
It's a game of people who are pitted against each other and at the same time, trying to work with each other. It's built to create conflict alongside the excitement."Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
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Good game. First time I've been mislynched. By the time it got to that, I was pretty sure Moment and I were both town, but I really didn't know what to do about it, or care enough to fight. I'd already accepted that I wasn't going to endgame.
I never would have guessed DT was The Worst. Looking back I can see the similarities, but the thought had never crossed my mind. I'd probably have accepted (if he'd asked me properly), if I had known. We probably would have been lynched earlier than DT/SS were.
DT/Duck, did you ever actually plan to be partnered with me?ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
Jingle when I was SK: Wish TB would have won though, she was obvtown.
Silliest line from my best game: But neither of you seem that smart.
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Wiat, maybe I misread that. I dunno anymore. I thought someone said he was, but now I'm confused.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
Jingle when I was SK: Wish TB would have won though, she was obvtown.
Silliest line from my best game: But neither of you seem that smart.
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Thanks for unconfusing me.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
Jingle when I was SK: Wish TB would have won though, she was obvtown.
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One instance ANYWHERE doesn’t make anyone a “repeat offender”.In post 5741, FakeGod wrote:
Nancy is angry because she believes that I should have asked her for an explanation in private, and not damage her public image like I did through a public inquiry. In addition, she believes that DT should not have told everyone that she has been banned for similar behavior before, and I shouldn't have approved him afterwards.In post 5726, Firebringer wrote:What even is this
I think her argument makes sense. She doesn't want people to know that she is a repeat offender, and she doesn't want her public image to suffer from this. I am of belief that you should always meet your mistakes head on, but I understand her position. Therefore, I apologized.
Welp, if you INTENTIONALLY burn down a house and you regret it after the fact, the insurance company won’t go easy on you.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Nancy Drew 39
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I am also upset that you just didn’t replace me att and instead lulled me into a false sense of security. So, mistakenly thinking you were acting in good faith, I worked really really hard, put my heart and soul into this game and did my best to carry my team to victory.In post 5759, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
One instance ANYWHERE doesn’t make anyone a “repeat offender”.In post 5741, FakeGod wrote:
Nancy is angry because she believes that I should have asked her for an explanation in private, and not damage her public image like I did through a public inquiry. In addition, she believes that DT should not have told everyone that she has been banned for similar behavior before, and I shouldn't have approved him afterwards.In post 5726, Firebringer wrote:What even is this
I think her argument makes sense. She doesn't want people to know that she is a repeat offender, and she doesn't want her public image to suffer from this. I am of belief that you should always meet your mistakes head on, but I understand her position. Therefore, I apologized.
Welp, if you INTENTIONALLY burn down a house and you regret it after the fact, the insurance company won’t go easy on you.
All the while of course, being blissfullly ignorant that you were trashing me in dead thread, which I had no access to, so could not defend myself and that you planned to blindside me post-game. Also, no need to drag DT into this. He is the only one other than me, who actually knows the MAJORITY/NOT EVEN ALLof the facts, YOU don’t! It is not even remotely as black and white as you’re incorrectly assuming it is but I get that you’re far more interested in passing judgment than getting all of the facts first. Why let the truth get in the way of this Spanish Inquisition, amirite?**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Nancy Drew 39
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+1In post 5744, Krazy wrote:I don't actually think it's beneficent to continue that squabble, but if you don't want replace outs to be used as a form of emotional manipulation,why did you not insist she leave the game in pre-dance when she bolded the request? I feel like you're blaming her for coming back into the game when she had tilt replaced out. I don't think tilt replace outs can be prohibited since all that would do is make people lie more about why they're replacing out, mostly what this shows is that replace outs should simply be seen as NAI. And saying you're blacklisting her because she won a game using a form of emotional manipulation that you enabled by allowing her to remain in the game after the replacement request is confusing to me.
Like, we can all agree that there should be fewer replacement requests, that there should not be tactical replacements, that people should keep their cool more and not tiltreplace out.But as someone who looked at the replacement request and did not townread her for it but thought she was town for other, also incorrect reasons, this seems like you're blaming the scum winner for winning because some of the town townread her for shitty reasons.
I guess if you want a consistent policy on replace outs, say that A) Replacement request should be made by PM, not made in thread, B) Replacement requests are final and C) Players should stop posting as soon as they initiate a replacement request. Generally, the rules are in place right now because sometimes people get heated and say they want to replace out but then change their minds. Which--as far as I can tell--is exactly what happened this game. She did not threaten to replace out as a form of gaining towncred; she intended to replace out because of tilt.
I actually don't even know if I should post this, I partly don't want to touch this conversation with a ten foot pole, butI also think it's unfair to Gamma and DT to imply that town lost this because Nancy's slot was "compromised" when I don't think that really reflects what happened in this game.
*Backs quickly away from conversation***********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Nancy Drew 39
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That would have been a lot more fair. I definitely would have preferred that.In post 5745, Firebringer wrote:
I did.In post 5744, Krazy wrote:why did you not insist she leave the game in pre-dance when she bolded the request**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Gamma Emerald
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I obviously should have done that. I was extremely stressed in too and under the weather. I was serious about replacing out att. I just changed my mind after the fact. I didn’t eat for days, during dance 2.In post 5749, Firebringer wrote:a good personal rule on replacing out because of what is happening in a game.
before requesting it in game. take a 24 hour game break and if you still want to replace out you can make a post with alot less emotion in it so people won't read into it.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Nancy Drew 39
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It 100% beats feeling treated likea lab rat in a science experiment, that’s for damn sure.In post 5763, Gamma Emerald wrote:I agree with the above**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Nancy Drew 39
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In post 5753, TheBrie wrote:Good game. First time I've been mislynched. By the time it got to that, I was pretty sure Moment and I were both town, but I really didn't know what to do about it, or care enough to fight. I'd already accepted that I wasn't going to endgame.
I never would have guessed DT was The Worst. Looking back I can see the similarities,but the thought had never crossed my mind. I'd probably have accepted (if he'd asked me properly), if I had known. We probably would have been lynched earlier than DT/SS were.
DT/Duck, did you ever actually plan to be partnered with me?
Me neither. Duck, what have you been hiding from me?**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Nancy Drew 39
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FACT: WeIn post 5754, Ankamius wrote:DT is duckling?allhave a little duckling in all of us.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Nancy Drew 39
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Meh, I wouldn’t put anything past duck. Almost nothing is outside his scumrange.In post 5757, Pink Ball wrote:He's not. Ank said "how dare you rolling scum with me duck" referring to the first iteration of this game, not this one. The worst was spectating the game, he couldn't be playing it at the same time
Better to be safe than sorry. Always assume tw is scum until proven otherwise.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Nancy Drew 39
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I would actually be really touched by this but I already read your not so subtle attempt to slander me first, so I know this isn’t sincere. :/In post 5711, FakeGod wrote:I apologize, Nancy.
I think it's best if we don't cross paths again in the future.
You have my sincerest wishes.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Nancy Drew 39
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Spoiler:
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I’d be more than happy to settle for the mod congratulating my team on its victory but I’m not that much of an optimist.
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In post 5715, Dannflor wrote:
It was stupid of me to base my town case off of an attempted replace-out. I don't really blame Nancy, it was my fault for thinking it was AIIn post 5716, Dannflor wrote:At least I'll hopefully have a more critical eye for AtE in general going forwardIn post 5717, DoubtingThomas wrote:If you believe Nancy is scum, then you must also believe all the Nancy/DT interactions this game are scum theatre.I never fake my emotions. AtEing for me like derping, is 100% NIA and ftr, I actually was upset and freaked out by that post DT. The only reason I didn’t react more strongly was that you gave me the heads up in scumchat, that you were going to do something kind of brutal, so I basically tried my best brace myself for it. I just had no idea what.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Nancy Drew 39
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Isn’t that like every mafia game ever?In post 5720, Krazy wrote:I think this game should serve as a springboard for a shift in site meta to regard toxic 1v1s as scum theater and to lynch both slots.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Nancy Drew 39
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???In post 5722, Krazy wrote:This is also what happens when endgame pairings in the previous run are generated based on personality conflicts.
Create a town strategy of endgaming based on hostility, and you create a strong incentive to create a hostile gamestate as a means of advancing the scum wincon.
DT wasn’t in the previous run. *confused***********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Nancy Drew 39
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He wasn’t in that one either, unless you are referring to Short? That PT wasn’t exactly “friendly”, when I replaced in.In post 5723, Krazy wrote:In witches ball, I mean, not the false started run of this setup
Ok maybe I'm still bitter about being denied a pairing with creature**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly - Nancy Drew 39
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