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In post 579, ceejayvinoya wrote:@BEF if you just replaced into this game and saw two scum flips, one for each team, wouldn't you look for "connections" too?

Precisely. I isoed the mod once I saw those flips in OP, and BEF = Fire was my first conclusion.

I roster as Ice, but have no hard evidence backing this guess.

In post 587, BrightEyedFish wrote:What dead town player was "threatening to me?" Because scum of course would be threatening to me so using that as a connection is just wah wah wah.

This is multiball. Scum flipping doesn't clear you of killing them; quite the opposite.

In post 590, BrightEyedFish wrote:You think I killed ruirui becasue I was "threatened" by him. He was barely active... And ofrhz WHO WAS SCUM was after me? That makes me scum?

And how would Fire-scum know ofrhz was Ice?

They wouldn't.

In post 590, BrightEyedFish wrote:Vedith was gunning for my lynch and he turned out to be fire so that would make us partners according to succinct... nice try...

Beg your pardon but I saw zero evidence of that. I see evidence of the contrary,

In post 592, rosterfoster wrote:But Vedith was quite successful in directing the lynch away from you, no?

This. I reference,

In post 281, brassherald wrote:

Allomancer (4)~

Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, ‪Dr Worm, GrandWazoo

BrightEyedFish (4)~

ofrhz, rosterfoster, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet

During the peak of the BEF wagon, Vedith spearheaded the counterwagon on Allomancer. And not long after,

In post 313, brassherald wrote:

Allomancer (7)~

Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, ‪Dr Worm, GrandWazoo, BrightEyedFish, rosterfoster,Pinturicchio

BrightEyedFish (4)~

ofrhz, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet, Springtrap

Allomancer was lynched in part from Vedith's push.

I do acknowledge Vedith briefly voted BEF, but that vote was IMMEDIATELY removed, never to return.

Vedith was spearheading the Vedith wagon from his first post onward...

I mean the Allo wagon

I'm glad someone else is doing some effort

In post 600, Succinct wrote:

In post 579, ceejayvinoya wrote:@BEF if you just replaced into this game and saw two scum flips, one for each team, wouldn't you look for "connections" too?

Precisely. I isoed the mod once I saw those flips in OP, and BEF = Fire was my first conclusion.

I

favor

roster as Ice, but have no hard evidence backing this guess.

In post 587, BrightEyedFish wrote:What dead town player was "threatening to me?" Because scum of course would be threatening to me so using that as a connection is just wah wah wah.

This is multiball. Scum flipping doesn't clear you of killing them; quite the opposite.

In post 590, BrightEyedFish wrote:You think I killed ruirui becasue I was "threatened" by him. He was barely active... And ofrhz WHO WAS SCUM was after me? That makes me scum?

And how would Fire-scum know ofrhz was Ice?

They wouldn't.

In post 590, BrightEyedFish wrote:Vedith was gunning for my lynch and he turned out to be fire so that would make us partners according to succinct... nice try...

Beg your pardon but I saw zero evidence of that. I

do

see evidence of the contrary,

In post 592, rosterfoster wrote:But Vedith was quite successful in directing the lynch away from you, no?

This. I reference,

In post 281, brassherald wrote:

Allomancer (4)~

Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, ‪Dr Worm, GrandWazoo

BrightEyedFish (4)~

ofrhz, rosterfoster, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet

During the peak of the BEF wagon, Vedith spearheaded the counterwagon on Allomancer. And not long after,

In post 313, brassherald wrote:

Allomancer (7)~

Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, ‪Dr Worm, GrandWazoo, BrightEyedFish, rosterfoster,Pinturicchio

BrightEyedFish (4)~

ofrhz, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet, Springtrap

Allomancer was lynched in part from Vedith's push.

I do acknowledge Vedith briefly voted BEF, but that vote was IMMEDIATELY removed, never to return.

Your are right that fire wouldn't know ofr was ice but you are building your case on me that concludes I am Fire and thst I KNEW ofr was Ice scum....

Don't you see your contradictions?

In post 261, Vedith wrote:Right now Scum are most likely all among Allo BEF worm springtrap maad and Grand.
As it stands I don't lynch outside if these 5.

In post 319, Vedith wrote:

In post 312, ofrhz wrote:I'm going to take the silence as a no

I think people most likely to be scum with Allo are in {Springtrap, BEF, maad}

I do think scum are unlikely to bus in this setup, but BEF didn't really have any choice given that he was run up himself.

Ofrhz would have been Scum hunting so BEF and Maad I don't see as Scum buddy at all.

VOTE: BrightEyedFisy

Pintu, Eyes and Rooster still town for me.

In post 352, Vedith wrote:Do you think Maad flips Scum more often than BEF?
If so I'll vote here if you think so.

If it's from BEF posting who is Orfhz partner, it feels like it's something that could have been discussed between BEF and their buddy already. Not to mention that they are looking for the second ice Scum rather than Scum as a whole.

In post 426, Vedith wrote:I think Ruirui might be ice Scum.
Grand, Ceej and BEF as fire? Well, 2 of them.

In post 466, Vedith wrote:Good, who's scum for you?

Scum is in Grand/BEF/RuiRui and maybe Ceej although I like them better as town now.
RuiRui is highly likely to be Ice mafia so I'd lynch Grand or BEF today. Given that PPintu thinks BEF has some town tell I',m preferable for Grand.

And yes, I think Fire mafia want the ice mafia killed today to prevent them having the night kill.

And here are quotes from Vedith where he is pushing for me to be lynched...

Are you just flat out lying or creating a line that fits with your read on me?

BEF scum often pushes their partner to distance but actually makes sure that a different Lynch happens/doesn't resist it as they would if they were town with a scumread. That's what Vedith was doing.

I'm so damn tempted to hammer

Pintu how is your insomnia read?

In post 604, BrightEyedFish wrote:you are building your case on me that concludes I am Fire and thst I KNEW ofr was Ice scum....

I said no such thing? I said the opposite; you know and in fact thought he was town.

I'm quite sure that insomnia is scum and I think BEF will flip green, but I've been ignored before and I honestly don't care anymore

What makes you believe I’m scum though?

So there are also two different wagons I saw that dissolved before end of day:

In post 165, brassherald wrote:

One of their numbers had vanished

Votecount 1.4

rosterfoster (5)~

GrandWazoo, Eyes Without A Face, Springtrap, Ceejayvinoya, BrightEyedFish

Ceejayvinoya(3)~

Pinturicchio, RuiRui, rosterfoster

Allomancer (2)~

Vedith, Allomancer

BrightEyedFish (1)~

ofrhz

Vedith (1)~

Clemency

Not Voting (1)~

‪Dr Worm

D1, rosterfoster wagon.

In post 367, brassherald wrote:

A cake was brought out for them to eat, the council members were puzzled.

Votecount 2.3

maadneet (3)~

Pinturicchio, Vedith, Ceejayvinoya

GrandWazoo (2)~

Dr Worm, BrightEyedFish

BrightEyedFish (1)~

Rosterfoster

Eyes Without a Face (1)~

GrandWazooo

Not Voting (3)~

RuiRui, maadneet, Eyes Without A Face

In post 387, skitter30 wrote:

Votecount 2.4

maadneet (4)~

Pinturicchio, Ceejayvinoya, Dr Worm, RuiRui

GrandWazoo (1)~

BrightEyedFish

BrightEyedFish (1)~

Rosterfoster

Eyes Without a Face (1)~

GrandWazooo

Not Voting (3)~

maadneet, Eyes Without A Face, Vedith

D2, my wagon.

So D1 wagons we have roster, Allo, BEF; D2 was me and Grand, mostly.

My reads seem to line up with insomnia's, BEF as fire scum, ceejay as ice. Will hammer BEF in 24hr unless someone convinces me otherwise.

In post 612, maadneet wrote:So there are also two different wagons I saw that dissolved before end of day:

In post 165, brassherald wrote:

One of their numbers had vanished

Votecount 1.4

rosterfoster (5)~

GrandWazoo, Eyes Without A Face, Springtrap, Ceejayvinoya, BrightEyedFish

Ceejayvinoya(3)~

Pinturicchio, RuiRui, rosterfoster

Allomancer (2)~

Vedith, Allomancer

BrightEyedFish (1)~

ofrhz

Vedith (1)~

Clemency

Not Voting (1)~

‪Dr Worm

D1, rosterfoster wagon.

In post 367, brassherald wrote:

A cake was brought out for them to eat, the council members were puzzled.

Votecount 2.3

maadneet (3)~

Pinturicchio, Vedith, Ceejayvinoya

GrandWazoo (2)~

Dr Worm, BrightEyedFish

BrightEyedFish (1)~

Rosterfoster

Eyes Without a Face (1)~

GrandWazooo

Not Voting (3)~

RuiRui, maadneet, Eyes Without A Face

In post 387, skitter30 wrote:

Votecount 2.4

maadneet (4)~

Pinturicchio, Ceejayvinoya, Dr Worm, RuiRui

GrandWazoo (1)~

BrightEyedFish

BrightEyedFish (1)~

Rosterfoster

Eyes Without a Face (1)~

GrandWazooo

Not Voting (3)~

maadneet, Eyes Without A Face, Vedith

D2, my wagon.

So D1 wagons we have roster, Allo, BEF; D2 was me and Grand, mostly.

My reads seem to line up with insomnia's, BEF as fire scum, ceejay as ice. Will hammer BEF in 24hr unless someone convinces me otherwise.

Does the fact that there is no flipped scum on the roster wagon tell you anything?

In post 600, Succinct wrote:

In post 579, ceejayvinoya wrote:@BEF if you just replaced into this game and saw two scum flips, one for each team, wouldn't you look for "connections" too?

Precisely. I isoed the mod once I saw those flips in OP, and BEF = Fire was my first conclusion.

I

favor

roster as Ice, but have no hard evidence backing this guess.

In post 587, BrightEyedFish wrote:What dead town player was "threatening to me?" Because scum of course would be threatening to me so using that as a connection is just wah wah wah.

This is multiball. Scum flipping doesn't clear you of killing them; quite the opposite.

In post 590, BrightEyedFish wrote:You think I killed ruirui becasue I was "threatened" by him. He was barely active... And ofrhz WHO WAS SCUM was after me? That makes me scum?

And how would Fire-scum know ofrhz was Ice?

They wouldn't.

In post 590, BrightEyedFish wrote:Vedith was gunning for my lynch and he turned out to be fire so that would make us partners according to succinct... nice try...

Beg your pardon but I saw zero evidence of that. I

do

see evidence of the contrary,

In post 592, rosterfoster wrote:But Vedith was quite successful in directing the lynch away from you, no?

This. I reference,

In post 281, brassherald wrote:

Allomancer (4)~

Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, ‪Dr Worm, GrandWazoo

BrightEyedFish (4)~

ofrhz, rosterfoster, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet

During the peak of the BEF wagon, Vedith spearheaded the counterwagon on Allomancer. And not long after,

In post 313, brassherald wrote:

Allomancer (7)~

Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, ‪Dr Worm, GrandWazoo, BrightEyedFish, rosterfoster,Pinturicchio

BrightEyedFish (4)~

ofrhz, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet, Springtrap

Allomancer was lynched in part from Vedith's push.

I do acknowledge Vedith briefly voted BEF, but that vote was IMMEDIATELY removed, never to return.

You say that you have no hard evidence that roster is scum so you aren't voting there.

But you also have no HARD evidence on me other that speculation that is truly false.

I think you and roster are the remaining scum.

noooooo

this better flip scum

tho to be fair I don't imagine the day going anywhere else.

Vivi, I'm pretty sure you're scum, hope the other remaining scum shoots you. I don't think BEF flips scum honestly, but we'll have a better PoE tomorrow. I already saved BEF once, I don't think I could save him a second time

One day you're going to have to change the way you read me

It gets boring when I always get scumread by you and you end up to be town too

With the doctor dead, no reason not to
VOTE: No Lynch
As none of us are conftown or above reproach.