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In post 5999, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:If pooky is scum, then I may not be

In post 5993, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if i was like scum

i wouldve shot you like days ago

In post 5988, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Also pooky's interactions with VPB and MT on D1 don't look aligned. pooky kept trying to engage MT and getting stonewalled by her. I guess if they were SvS, the explanation for this would be MT was just not confident in her scum abilities to keep an SvS conversation going, but it seemed more like MT was afraid to interact with pooky to me? I'd appreciate a second opinion on this.

In post 6006, Bell wrote:Reviewed.
It’s down to pooky or enchant imo.

In post 712, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 702, fireisredsir wrote:- 595 hmm bad vibes here from menalque

This is the only other spot where I was like 'huh?' on your analysis.

Why does that post give you bad vibes?

In post 1004, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 640, Andante wrote:FOUND IT VP!!!! Pick your poison

So I read your ISO in this game....we were not good at reading each other! You were scumreading me there for terrible reasons too, and I hadn't played with you before, so took your bad faith reading as scum motivation.

I think I understand you a little better since then and wouldn't get a scumread on you for those same foolish reasons.

I still don't see how that game was the basis for your scumread on me here tho, when you didn't really get my town game there either....

In post 6008, GuiltyLion wrote:I got to page 25 yesterday, gonna keep rereading from there for a bit as I lay in bed

In post 5988, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Also pooky's interactions with VPB and MT on D1 don't look aligned. pooky kept trying to engage MT and getting stonewalled by her. I guess if they were SvS, the explanation for this would be MT was just not confident in her scum abilities to keep an SvS conversation going, but it seemed more like MT was afraid to interact with pooky to me? I'd appreciate a second opinion on this.

Which MT posts give you that impression? I've been rereading specifically looking for things that look unaligned to me and I haven't seen anything that made me think Pooky was definitely unaligned with the scums. And on a pure gut level 366 and 416 from VPB felt a lot like teammate interactions, though I know from a rational perspective it's prob NAI since I can imagine worlds where that's T-S

In post 1194, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 1121, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 1117, Cephrir wrote:"you can't townread cephrir for being the only one to think about this because i did too. but i didn't really since it was a half baked idea"

plz tell me what is wrong with my characterization or what the town motivation is

Lol, Greeting can certainly townread you for it. Just wasn't your idea. Credit where it's due.

Maybe you came to the conclusion independently, idk. Just saying you definitely weren't the first person to bring it up. I think greeting is more town than you, so I'd prefer they have all the information when making their decision on reads. That's my motivation.

This is a perspective slip because of what's unsaid here.

from VPB!town's POV - he should be townreading cephrir for having the same thought process as he does - unless he wants to claim that Cephrir is just plagiarizing him 800 posts later or w/e but that's clearly not his intent as he didn't even state things in the way Cephrir did.

Instead he seems peeved that Cephrir is getting town-read for a post that he already made - the goal isn't actually because he thinks Cephrir is scum - he just wants his own town cred for "saying something similar" which is kind of ????

Like this game isn't about seeing who can score the most town!points for statements about game state - this game is about sorting between bad guys and good guys. VP's entire conversation with Cephrir isn't about sorting Cephrir - it's about saying oh it's unfair Ceph is getting credit for something that I already said sort of kind of - which is not a town mindset.

In post 6009, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 712, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 702, fireisredsir wrote:- 595 hmm bad vibes here from menalque

This is the only other spot where I was like 'huh?' on your analysis.

Why does that post give you bad vibes?

again not the strongest evidence but I feel like this is usually not a post scum makes if they're partnered with Menalque

In post 6015, GuiltyLion wrote:
I think a big question for this game is

a) If town!Pooky, why does scum put VPB into his hood on N1 after Pooky posts this pretty damning (in hindsight) point against VPB
b) if town!Pooky, how did he evolve from here to helping VPB defuse the bomb?

Menalque brought this up in his case against Pooky and I do think it feels wonky that scum put VPB in a hood with Pooky and VPB walked out of it alive, when Pooky was scumraeding VPB D1 and is enough of a loose cannon that I fully believe he wouldn't be afraid to vig a scumread

In post 1222, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 1219, Andante wrote:I mean, if there's actual meta with the only being nice as maf, I'll back this read, do you have an example of a game where he was nice as maf?

i haven't played vs scum!him since like 2009? 2010?

every game i've played vs him is TvT and we basically scream at each other for like 40 pages about how the other person is a giant scumfuck and eventually we figure out we're town.

In post 1280, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 1205, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:cuz from what i remember of your d1 play when you get heat, you usually just tell everyone to fuck off and claim you are town and refuse to give a shit

here you're doing some real performative bendy twisty readlist that looks like you basically just pulled up isos one by one and wrote some shit out like some kid who hasn't done his homework and is busy trying to write it all out b4 the teacher shows up.

I do find it kind of funny that right after I point out you're not really a presence in this game and haven't even attacked me, which is highly unusual for town!pooky, you magically show up and try to play tough.

Hmm, ok ok, noted down, bear .

In post 1283, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 1216, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:yea being nice cuz he's a scumbag

I can definitely be meaner. I don't think it's always very good for games when I am and I'm trying to be better about that generally.

Nothing this game has really gotten me tilted though either.

In post 5274, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:N1 PT was 7 pages total

There was some initial talk about why Andres was an expert and catboi was the defuser. There was generally a good deal of talk about Andres since that was VPB's primary scumread.

Cephrir was lightly townreading VPB and leaned toward saving, but also his TR was not that strong so he was ultimately fine with either saving or blowing him up

I started doubting my scumread on VPB, since I liked his push on andres and I didn't think scum would put scum!VP as defuser.

pooky initially came in and was like VPB you're going to die
then reconsidered a bit after VPB started pushing an Andres/pooky team
I'd say he was the most reluctant to save VPB by a good deal

Mena came in last and said we should be defusing all bombs because this game is like SH (Secret Hitler, I'm assuming), and you can get some info by trying to defuse all bombs and see which ones succeed/fail.
He solved his part really fast.
I asked him if he knew about scum's 4 defuse alternate wincon after he already posted his solve and he claimed he didn't.

So Mena was first to post his solve, then Cephrir, me, pooky in that order.

In post 6020, GuiltyLion wrote:is it just Mena after all

have I effectively exhausted every avenue of paranoia around Andante/Enchant/Pooky yet before coming back to the obvious answer