League of Legends (Old)

[Staeg]

Smite wasn't nerfed. It was buffed, I'm pretty sure.

[mykonian]

Smite wasn't nerfed. It was buffed, I'm pretty sure.

Sorry, you are right. It's not a buff either. The CDR from it's old mastery (5 sec) was transferred to the ability itself.

[Shanba]

To be totally honest, I got the old mastery very rarely anyway.

[Staeg]

The gold bonus from the mastery became 10g, so it's a buff :3

[mykonian]

5sec cooldown reduction! Compared to 0.2 ap per level? Or 0.66 critical strike chance?

anyway, they cleaned that up. You can go full caster, full jungler etc with these masteries. Less useless points spent because you want a higher rank.

[Staeg]

Yup. I actually felt like going something like 29/0/1 as a physical carry.

[dramonic]

havent fought him yet, but Fizz seems kinda like Akali with less burst but better cooldowns...

[xRECKONERx]

He seems more like Wukong than Akali to me.

[Ankamius]

He sounds like a mixture between Riven and Lee Sin.

[dramonic]

He's AP though.

[IH]

How many wards can supports start with if they take the 40 bonus gold?

EDIT-I'm guessing 4 and a pot

[Amrun]

And they can also get that talent that increases ward vision.

[MrZepher]

The last two Fizzs I've seen haven't caught on to the concept of "run in, do some damage, run out, look for next opportunity to repeat"

Though people are catching on to using his playful/trickster to bait certain spells.

ALSO, SHEN'S SHIELD IS OFFICIALLY NOT USELESS.
I HAVE USED IT IN 3 SEPARATE GAMES TO BAIT THE ENEMY RIGHT INTO OUR JUNGLER'S HANDS MUAHAHAHAHAHA
But something should seriously be done, even if it's just increasing the amount of damage it blocks, or even functioning like Nocturne's spell shield to completely nullify one attack. Some of the Reds have posted that they think changes need to head Shen's way but it's not a priority. So even if they made changes now, we wouldn't see them for another few patches :C

[Espeonage]

How many wards can supports start with if they take the 40 bonus gold?

EDIT-I'm guessing 4 and a pot

With the added gold the should be taking Ferie Charm + 1 Purple Ward + 2 Green Wards + 2 Pots

[Amrun]

NO OFFENSE but I'll never take a purple ward as a support unless I'm against certain champs.

[xRECKONERx]

new masteries what

[JDodge]

How many wards can supports start with if they take the 40 bonus gold?

EDIT-I'm guessing 4 and a pot

With the added gold the should be taking Ferie Charm + 1 Purple Ward + 2 Green Wards + 2 Pots

you're bad at math

NO OFFENSE but I'll never take a purple ward as a support unless I'm against certain champs.

you're bad at the game

pink wards are an important way of denying enemy map vision on the cheap, use and abuse them

[Amrun]

Well I may have mixed up colors.

But generally I don't play support on serious games because I know basic warding practices and stuff but counter-warding and complex stuff are beyond me.

(Yes, I'm bad at the game.)

[mykonian]

NO OFFENSE but I'll never take a purple ward as a support unless I'm against certain champs.

you're bad at the game

pink wards are an important way of denying enemy map vision on the cheap, use and abuse them

Pink wards are suboptimal in low level games. The other team might very well not bother with warding.

[Ankamius]

Keeping a pink ward at dragon is retardedly broken against teams that don't know what they're doing.

[hitogoroshi]

thoughts on new things:

I think bruisers want 5-25-0 and HP quints

supports want at least 21 in utility - I think 1-1-28 is best honestly but JD favors a few points in defense. maybe I will start actually playing some supports and trying stuff out

offense masteries for AP are a *little* too good, I suspect a nerf soonish but in the meantime if you build ap there's no excuse not to get 21 offense. 21-0-9 for mana kids 21-9- 0 for no-mana kids

masteries fucking rule for jungling. 21-0-9 ad junglers, 0-21-9 tank junglers, and 9-11-10 aspd junglers are where I'm tentatively making my stand, but jungling is always champ dependent and subject to lots of non-obvious stuff. still though that last page - bladed armor, utility mastery, and the 10% arpen is a pretty winner combo to anyone who gets aspd and jungles with a wriggles

[Chronopie]

So... Fizz.

Squishy as hell, but crazy fun. Dodge ults, AoEs, and idk, but maybe even Karthus. (Managed to dodge a Cait ult xD)

[IH]

Why is Skarner's jungle so fast holy shit.

[Oman]

Rammus jungle is now insane.

[JDodge]

NO OFFENSE but I'll never take a purple ward as a support unless I'm against certain champs.

you're bad at the game

pink wards are an important way of denying enemy map vision on the cheap, use and abuse them

Pink wards are suboptimal in low level games. The other team might very well not bother with warding.

if the other team isn't bothering to buy wards, why would you buy a pink ward in the first place? a pink ward isn't something you place when you don't think the opponent has a ward there - it's something you place only when you do