Open 754: Fire and Ice (Game Over) Fire Mafia wins.

[rosterfoster]

Indeed.

VOTE: No Lynch

We should probably avoid saying anything of substance today to reduce the chance of mafia knowing best kill.

[maadneet]

[pinturicchio]

Fucking called it on D1. No lynching today is getting me nightkilled and I would rather be alive today to win the game

[rosterfoster]

Pintu with the greatest of respect we have had 3 mislynches in a row while you’ve been the most townread player, managing to not get night killed and yesterday you hammered BEF despite opening thinking he was town, which could get well have lead to the possibility of 2-1-1 and virtually no way to win (Scum could at the very least force a draw if they wanted to). To cap it all off you are assuming that you are conf town and advocating the mechanically inferior approach.

If that doesn’t make me question my town read on you I don’t know what will.

Now shut up and vote no lynch.

[ceejayvinoya]

BEF lynch was inevitable. This town is a chore to work with.

what's your reads pintu?

[pinturicchio]

Pintu with the greatest of respect we have had 3 mislynches in a row while you’ve been the most townread player, managing to not get night killed and yesterday you hammered BEF despite opening thinking he was town, which could get well have lead to the possibility of 2-1-1 and virtually no way to win (Scum could at the very least force a draw if they wanted to). To cap it all off you are assuming that you are conf town and advocating the mechanically inferior approach.

If that doesn’t make me question my town read on you I don’t know what will.

Now shut up and vote no lynch.

I've not been nightkilled probably because the scumteams avoided both killing me. The argument of the 3 mislynches is fair, but not correct; I hammered both times saying that Allo and BEF were town and that you should listen to me, and I was correct on EWAF/insomnia. So not only I'm the most obvious town in the game, I should also be listened for having correct reads. So no, don't question your townread, there's no reason to it. And I'm not advocating the mechanically inferior approach: I want some discussion before finishing this day, 'cause now that there's only one scum faction, I'm getting nightkilled and I want to come to a conclusion before dying, 'cause as you said, there were already 3 mislynches and I was townreading 2 of those 3, so I don't trust the rest of my town members to win this game.

[pinturicchio]

BEF lynch was inevitable. This town is a chore to work with.

what's your reads pintu?

I still think you're the remaining scum. And the AtE you threw before the day ended doesn't help: I don't always scumread you, I townread you in Jungle Republic. Guess what: that was a multi ball, and you were scum. I've seen plenty of playstyle differences here compared to the games I usually scumread you wrongly, so now I think I wrongly townread you at the begining of this game. Reevaluating is nice, you know? But don't worry, I'll take my time, I'll read the game or some relevant ISOs, and I will read some other recent games of yours to see if this playstyle thing I see here is some kind of new approach you've been applying.

[ceejayvinoya]

@Pintu here's my most recent town game if it helps.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=79167

[ceejayvinoya]

BEF lynch was inevitable. This town is a chore to work with.

what's your reads pintu?

I still think you're the remaining scum. And the AtE you threw before the day ended doesn't help: I don't always scumread you, I townread you in Jungle Republic. Guess what: that was a multi ball, and you were scum. I've seen plenty of playstyle differences here compared to the games I usually scumread you wrongly, so now I think I wrongly townread you at the begining of this game. Reevaluating is nice, you know? But don't worry, I'll take my time, I'll read the game or some relevant ISOs, and I will read some other recent games of yours to see if this playstyle thing I see here is some kind of new approach you've been applying.

Not relevant, but you almost got me lynched d1 on jungle republic if I remember correctly

[brassherald]

No lynch still takes 3 votes under this god's rules

Votecount 4.1

No Lynch (2)~

succinct, rosterfoster

Not Voting (2)~

Ceejayvinoya, Pinturicchio

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Mod Notes:

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2019-04-23 07:00:00).

[pinturicchio]

@vivi work with me while I do my own thing. From your perspective, who's the remaining scum?

[ceejayvinoya]

Succinct.

[pinturicchio]

Really! Wow, surprised by your answer I must say

[rosterfoster]

^Don’t like that post.

Ceejay what do you think about no-lynching today? And please tell me why.

[pinturicchio]

^Don’t like that post.

Ceejay what do you think about no-lynching today? And please tell me why.

You are coming my biggest scumread really really fast.

I didn't expect that answer 'cause I thought he would go into you since it's the easy lynch from a scum perspective. I think Vivi is the remaining scum, so I thought he would say you were the remaining scum. Instead, he says Succint, which I think it's less likely the easiest path to take as scum.

[rosterfoster]

The person with 5 posts who had some analysis which implicated the wrong person? I am not at all convinced that I would be an easier mislynch that Succint.

[pinturicchio]

Fair point. I'll just shut up until I reread the game, I'm not being useful

[ceejayvinoya]

^Don’t like that post.

Ceejay what do you think about no-lynching today? And please tell me why.

Yes to no lynching today.

I just want Pintu to reevaluate his reads first and hopefully give me some good ideas on who the last scum is.

[ceejayvinoya]

I have a tr on pintu and there are some posts on roster+vedith that make me lean on the idea that they're not on a team together.

[ceejayvinoya]

Dr Worm also has this strong, consistent townread on Vedith for no particular reason I can point to.

[ceejayvinoya]

Then there's succint looking for connections on vca on who the last scums are but neglecting to try looking for associations.

[ceejayvinoya]

That's practically a summary of what I got to but you get the idea.

[brassherald]

VC after work, by the way. Had a few too many things to do before work this morning.

[rosterfoster]

See Ceejay that’s all well and good but I just don’t like the idea of giving scum more information on who is the best to kill/can be swayed most easily. That’s why I wanted a quick no lynch.

I’m not going to give my opinions unless you really drag your feet on no-lynch.

[pinturicchio]

I think you're right, roster.

VOTE: No Lynch