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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:48 am

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VisMaior wrote:Oh, yes, right. Well, here is your first 9 posts, all your posts until I called you a nonissueposter.
Phoebus, why are you so concerned about an early vote? Most initial votes are meaningless. Is it really that big a deal Pooky didn't include "OMGUS" or "random" with his vote?
Well, not much to say about this one.
Phoebus is acting pretty touchy, to both Pookie and VisMaior. I don't ever remember him acting in this way, so I suspect something amiss.

vote: Phoebus


Ok, 180 degrees turn, bt I guess thats not much either so early.
Phoebus, you're reactions have been overboard in this game. Noting that fact is not metagaming. If you had a history of this sort of thing, I may've let it go. But you don't, so I won't.
No point, really. Well, a bit of a reasoning behind of your vote, almost nothing. Your vote was not very well grounded. I told you that Phoebus took his temper from friendsandenemies over here, so we should not take these as scumsign.
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Why haven't we lynched the Phoebie yet?

Having read the thread again, the discussion regarding Phoebus stopped with david's bizarre attack on MeMe. I would not be suprised if he was trying to deflect the attenion off of Phoebus.


This I found as fairly strange at the time. You attack DAS on the assumption that Phoebus is scum. It seems to me like a try to smear some on DAS. Also, a try to push the Phoebus wagon further.
Pooky, my vote is already on Phoebus. I can't really do more.
This has no point either. Post for the sake of posting.
I'm not sure lurker hunting is the way to go now. Aureal's right; mikeburn's reactions have been over the top.

vote: mikeburnfire
I dont find much analysys in this one either.
david, why are you focusing on MeMe? She didn't lynch Phoebus alone.
This struck me as odd back then. You call out DAS again...
david, I am not attacking you or your style. I am asking you a question for clarification. Why are you interested in MeMe over Pooky, CA, or me? On the face, it doesn't seem consistent. All I want to know is if I missed something.
Backing off?
I'd like swinkee replaced, too. His abcence is starting to hold up the game.
Sinking back to the image of a noninteresting person. Joining the calls for a lurkerprod/replacement.
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Coolbot, I do think it is in hand...Im happy to find you posting ,but I responded to your post. Would it be ok I f you responded to mine.

This post is devoid of content. How am I supposed to respond to it?
This post is also devoid of content.


All in all, you always had some reason to post, yet never really got anywhere. You did not really took part in the discussion, never analyzed. I had the impression you are not motivated in finding scum, so I called you out on that. And you reacted too, ever since then, your style changed. I find these scummy.
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:01 pm

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Phoebus, you're reactions have been overboard in this game. Noting that fact is not metagaming. If you had a history of this sort of thing, I may've let it go. But you don't, so I won't.
No point, really. Well, a bit of a reasoning behind of your vote, almost nothing. Your vote was not very well grounded. I told you that Phoebus took his temper from friendsandenemies over here, so we should not take these as scumsign.
No point? That wsa a direct response to Phoebus. You may have disagreed with me, but that's a far cry from "nonissue" posting.
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Why haven't we lynched the Phoebie yet?

Having read the thread again, the discussion regarding Phoebus stopped with david's bizarre attack on MeMe. I would not be suprised if he was trying to deflect the attenion off of Phoebus.


This I found as fairly strange at the time. You attack DAS on the assumption that Phoebus is scum. It seems to me like a try to smear some on DAS. Also, a try to push the Phoebus wagon further.
So again, I'm addressing an issue in the game.
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Pooky, my vote is already on Phoebus. I can't really do more.
This has no point either. Post for the sake of posting.
Direct response to something Pooky asked me. Again, not nonissue posting.
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I'm not sure lurker hunting is the way to go now. Aureal's right; mikeburn's reactions have been over the top.

vote: mikeburnfire
I dont find much analysys in this one either.
So what? I'm addressing lurker hunts, which was an issue at time, and backing Aureal's logic.
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david, why are you focusing on MeMe? She didn't lynch Phoebus alone.
This struck me as odd back then. You call out DAS again...
david, I am not attacking you or your style. I am asking you a question for clarification. Why are you interested in MeMe over Pooky, CA, or me? On the face, it doesn't seem consistent. All I want to know is if I missed something.
Backing off?
Backing off? I asked him a question; I didn't attack him. Though again, not nonissue posting
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I'd like swinkee replaced, too. His abcence is starting to hold up the game.
Sinking back to the image of a noninteresting person. Joining the calls for a lurkerprod/replacement.
Why is this a bad thing? Swinkee needed to be replaced.
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Coolbot, I do think it is in hand...Im happy to find you posting ,but I responded to your post. Would it be ok I f you responded to mine.

This post is devoid of content. How am I supposed to respond to it?
This post is also devoid of content.
What more could I say. DAS didn't give any indication what he was talking about. This is the closet I came to nonissue posting, and the only reason was DAS asked me a question and I need more info to respond.
VisMaior wrote:All in all, you always had some reason to post, yet never really got anywhere. You did not really took part in the discussion, never analyzed. I had the impression you are not motivated in finding scum, so I called you out on that. And you reacted too, ever since then, your style changed. I find these scummy.
My style changed? How? I wasn't defending myself earlier; I am now. That's tands to reason, though, since I'm being attacked now.

I don't see how all this adds up to nonissue posting. Perhaps I didn't analyse as much as you like, but I generally play things close to the chest.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:06 pm

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Oh, and DAS, if you're so suspicous of me, why aren't you voting me? You and Vis have both been working together to paint me as nonparticipatory, though there's nothing further from the truth. Yet neither of you seem comfortable in actually voting me. Vis had to be goaded into it, and you still haven't done so. All this waiting around to see if someone else will vote someone first is wasting our time. And scum would surely be doing just that.

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though I could easily change that to Vis.
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:17 pm

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DAS seems very naive. First he says that I have a good case against Vis, then he says Vis has a good case against you (which he really doesn't). Lest we forget that DAS, if telling the truth, is Vigilante, and therefore most important to our survival.

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Coolbot, as I don't think DAS's commentary was worth a vote.
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:34 pm

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It's not so much his comment, but the evidence that he and Vis are working together to discredit me. Since DAS already has a vote on him, I went with him.
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:04 pm

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My style changed? How? I wasn't defending myself earlier; I am now. That's tands to reason, though, since I'm being attacked now.
Yes, as the light fell on you, you immediately jumped out to defend yourself. Participation increased, etc. And nonissueposting, well, while your posts did have connections with discussion points, they did not bring the discussion any further, thus, nonissueposts. I feel your posts lack the analytical parts, and thus, are posts just for the sake of posting. This is a major scumtell in my book.
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:34 am

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CoolBot wrote:It occurs to me the only reason to believe we have a mind controller is VisMaior's word. No one claimed to be controlled Day 2, and we can't know about anyone cotrolled this day.
Sorry, I meant to comment on this before. While my role doesn't say that there is definitely a mind controller out there, it does hint at the possibility in a pretty direct way. So, I would assume that there is one, and that VisMaior is either telling the truth, or he is the mind controller, since he was first to mention it.

As for the rest of the discussion... I hear what everyone is saying, and agree with both sides of the arguments. I really hope other town are thinking about this situation and can come up with a good lynch. At this point, if it were up to me, I'd have to flip a coin. :?
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:37 am

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I'll be voting VisMaior in about 24 hours unless I'm convinced otherwise. I could go a few different ways, but DAS is my other top option.

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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:55 am

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Uhh. Ok. Im a protown roleblocker. d8p confirms me and I confirm d8p. How could I be scum with DAS, if d8p confirms me?
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:01 am

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Hm that wont work, with 7 alive there could still be 3 scum left.
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:09 am

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Coolbot
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Who is voting?

mike votes me
Coolbot votes DAS
I voted Coolbot

Scum could have jumped on those, if there are , in fact, 3 scums left. MeMe is the only one confirmed. It seems we have 2 teams of suspects, me, DAS and d8p in one group, mike and Coolbot in the other. Fishbulb seems like a protown role. Well, what can I say? I claimed to have blocked you Meme, before I knew that you had no nightaction. Were I scum, I could have screwed up horribly, but given that Im not, I did not. What else? Give me your reasons, so I can defend against them, please!
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:29 pm

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One thing you did that really stuck out to me as suspicious was when you said "sleepy wutsisname" in reference to mike's claim. It seemed affected to me -- as though you were going out of your way to make it sound as dumb as possible.

And regarding Fishbulb -- though he's not incredibly
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on my suspicious list at the moment -- I think he's an odd person to pick out as seeming like a "protown role." With a mason group, I think that backups for both doc and blocker seems excessive. Since you have no choice but to claim to believe d8P's claim, I'd think you'd be even more skeptical about Fishbulb. And even if you
don't
think it'd be unbalanced to have two back-ups, there's the fact that Fishbulb's claiming backup to a revealed role, making it rather easy for him to match the wording to Aureal's name. So why single him out as protown?

I've also been thinking about the fact that, if you and d8P are both pro-town, the offbeat naming of your roles (cops who are actually blockers) basically forms a second mason-group when claims occur.
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:52 pm

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the names on the beginning of my previous post are in order of scummyness, and who I believe over the other. I picked fishbulb because I was trying to see the situation from an independent point of view. It seems that i am connected with d8p and DAS while Coolbot is connected with mike. You are confirmed mason, that leaves Fishbulb, who has not made himself connected to any of us.
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:13 am

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Stop trying to isolate me into a group with Coolbot. I don't see any connection between us, and mixing your possible scum buddy in with innocents is unnerving.

And I'm not inclined to believe you're connected with DAS. I'm leaning more towards him being innocent.
Vis wrote:I picked fishbulb because I was trying to see the situation from an independent point of view.
Wasn't there already a discussion about this? How one shouldn't approach a situation from an independent viewpoint because one alreasy has the knowledge bestowed upon them in their role? Something like that....
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:39 am

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We really need more input. I can't believe that I'm about to place a vote that could lose the game if it's wrong but that no one seems much to care -- not even the person I'm planning to vote.
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:20 am

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Well, I think we should lynch either Vis or DAS. They seem to be working together, and both have been acting rather suspicously, as I've detailed above.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:53 am

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no one seems much to care -- not even the person I'm planning to vote.
What? Did I not answer all your questions?
And I'm not inclined to believe you're connected with DAS.
O RLY?
DAS claimed to have been blocked. IF HE IS INNOCENT, I MUST BE INNOCENT! BECAUSE NOONE COUNTERCLAIMED ME!

Ok, Im the roleblocker, d8p supports me as well. As he claims to be backup roleblocker. Im one of the most confirmeds, except for MEME. To think that I am scum you must also assume D8p is scum, and DAS too. Also, If we dont lynch me, I can prove that I am who I am.
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:57 am

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YA RLY
DAS claimed to have been blocked. IF HE IS INNOCENT, I MUST BE INNOCENT! BECAUSE NOONE COUNTERCLAIMED ME!
I am still not convinced that the intentions of your meddlings in others' night abilities is geared toward the benefit of the town. AKA MAFIASCUM-BLOCKER.

I don't doubt you can 'prove' your role. Just forfeit your scumkill during the Night. Viola'! You've blocked the scum! Automatic tenure!
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:46 am

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Im going to go with the flow...Coolbot, if Vis and I are scum then so is D8p.Meme, just finger the person you think does not care.When you post I try and think of a way that a mason could be scum. Cuz you have played a lot of games, and are you are still as sure Mr Naive about who scum is. .. Vis ...I want you to be scum because I then know D8p is scum.
Mike...If you turn out to be scum....fair play. Fish....I had my attension on you, as did many others. With your calim, I cant really understand why your not lynched already. D8p...I cant wait for your post game post....
Now..do you still think im scum........??????????.......
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:31 am

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I don't understand the scenario you are proposing - where if DAS is scum you are scum... Where is the logic there? If you are both town, you are not directly associated, merely mutually confirming claims the other made.

But if one of you is scum, you're saying the other is scum? That doesn't follow at all that I can see. I can see that if Vis turned out to be other than a cop blocker that I'd have to be scum too, but I don't see the connection that implies if DAS = scum => Vis = scum or vice versa.
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:37 am

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^ Is that directed at me?
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:47 am

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Sorry, no. That's directed at Vis. Totally confused as to why Vis thinks he's sure he's on the same side as DAS.
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:03 pm

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Hm, true, DAS is not as strongly connected to me as you. But he did claimed to have been blockes, so its either he is innocent, or he is the hypnotizer. That is exactly why I put him higher on my list than you.
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:26 pm

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Well, I'm back to thinking DAS might be a better choice than Vis. But I don't think things are going to get any clearer with more time.

So...
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:27 pm

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ARGHARGH MDONT DO THAT! Well lose!
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