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It's a shame that I was wrong about mathcam, but at least I started to lean against the scum. If only I was better at pretending I was uninformed.at least one of Yosarian and Mathcam is scum, and miztef's eagerness to kill mathcam makes me nervous. I'll postpone my vote on him for now, not because I trust him but because I distrust Miztef.
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Yos2, I had a pretty good case for it. You DID buddy up to mathcam fairly obviously, you know. Miztef, like I said, I had distad and Ooba down as definite masons. I knew I was a townie, and then I determined that TSPN was a townie as well. That meant Miztef/Yos2/tyhess/Mr. Flay is the pool of possible scum at that point. I was fairly certain that you and Yos2 were scum, and I thought it was Mr. Flay, too, but I was distracted by his tunnel-attack on me, and I'd already gotten Cassandra'd with Yos2, so I wasn't going to try that again yet. But you're right. I didn't go after you because I didn't really think you were scum until I made up my notes. At that point I had no choice but to believe you were scum, because there was no other option when I worked out the other roles. Especially since you were trying to play up a mason connection with Yos2 and MBF had already made it clear that you two were NOT masons. That was your biggest play mistake, I think. It was smart to try and make a mason connection with Yos2, but you needed to fit it in with the other masons, too.
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ah, I see your logic there MoS, I'm glad my actual play didn't ping me off as scummy though, just a process of elimination. Since I had you pinned down for mason for a long time, it was hard to choose the right strategies there.
I'd tend to agree that when waldo/MFB died, it was a game changing moment that I used incorrectly.
I'd tend to agree that when waldo/MFB died, it was a game changing moment that I used incorrectly.
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yea. Regardless, though, one person figuring you out isn't enough. You guys won by all rights, just couldn't get organized fast enough. A couple missteps at the end did you in, but overall it seemed that most people had no idea any of you were scum. I'm surprised none of the Masons took a more aggressive approach once we were in LYLO. With 3/5 non-masons being scum, they had a huge advantage for being able to analyze the game and find scum, but they all sat back and stayed quiet or just went after the same one or two people.
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Mos: Eh, I'm pretty sure I would have acted pretty much the same way towards Mathcam if I was town; I would have defended him day 2 just as much, I think.
Then again, part of it was that I didn't really want mathcam to be lynched, because I already knew he was a townie. (He was the guy Albert targeted, btw).
Then again, part of it was that I didn't really want mathcam to be lynched, because I already knew he was a townie. (He was the guy Albert targeted, btw).
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
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Yea, I noticed that. I still think your actions were dictated by the knowledge you had as scum, so I don't really think there's any way to know what you would've done if you were town. I mean, I think I act pretty much the same as town and scum regardless, but everyone has their tells. Apparently I act like "scum-MoS" sometimes, but no one can ever seem to tell me what exactly that entails.
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I think I agree. I was trying to be particularly conscious of any buddying up, and I just couldn't find anything specific that was out of the ordinary. And there wouldn't have been much gain to it anyway -- having one person on your side just wasn't going to cut it in this game.Yosarian2 wrote:Mos: Eh, I'm pretty sure I would have acted pretty much the same way towards Mathcam if I was town; I would have defended him day 2 just as much, I think.
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It was weirdly paralyzing being a Mason in this game, because you knew you could be dayshot at any time... even the usual standard of defending your Mason buddies/not voting them could get somebody killed.Mastermind of Sin wrote:I'm surprised none of the Masons took a more aggressive approach once we were in LYLO. With 3/5 non-masons being scum, they had a huge advantage for being able to analyze the game and find scum, but they all sat back and stayed quiet or just went after the same one or two people.
Definitely an interesting game concept, though.
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I really didn't know how to handle the endgame, myself. I didn't really care so much about giving myself away, but I certainly didn't want to give any information about my mason brethren that would have quickly ended the game.
There was a really fine line to follow.
There was a really fine line to follow.
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Heh. The worst part was that I think Albert actually asked me in code during day 1 if he should kill mathcam, and I totally didn't get what he was trying to say until after he was dead; I already thought mathcam was a vanillia townie at that time, too. sigh.
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
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Yea, I think I would've just thrown my mason buddies into the analysis, but made sure that they only played a peripheral role. I might "conclude" one of them was scum, but I'd make sure the three people I actually thought were scum were part of a group of four and that the mason partner was not in the top 2.Mr. Flay wrote:It was weirdly paralyzing being a Mason in this game, because you knew you could be dayshot at any time... even the usual standard of defending your Mason buddies/not voting them could get somebody killed.Mastermind of Sin wrote:I'm surprised none of the Masons took a more aggressive approach once we were in LYLO. With 3/5 non-masons being scum, they had a huge advantage for being able to analyze the game and find scum, but they all sat back and stayed quiet or just went after the same one or two people.
Definitely an interesting game concept, though.
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Thanks a lot guys for being such good sports and making this game fun to mod. The finish was certainly exciting.
I had 2 goals for this game, to make a game where reading between the lines would be crucial(in terms of coding for the scum to send each other information during the day), and also to make the Mason a role where it's not just a confirmed townie and there exists much more incentive to hide your masonship status.
The town has the advantage of having a significant portion of its members being already known to each other as town but with the disadvantage that if the scum figure out which are which that they will pay dearly for it.
So the masons have to be able to lead the town to good lynches without making it too clear that they are masons, I would've certainly appreciated more of a proactive approach by the protown elements in this game, instead of the cautious approach that did bog the game down.
I imagine if I were to run this again I'd give deadline kills to scum to provide an incentive for the town to work against a clock or something along those lines.
I had 2 goals for this game, to make a game where reading between the lines would be crucial(in terms of coding for the scum to send each other information during the day), and also to make the Mason a role where it's not just a confirmed townie and there exists much more incentive to hide your masonship status.
The town has the advantage of having a significant portion of its members being already known to each other as town but with the disadvantage that if the scum figure out which are which that they will pay dearly for it.
So the masons have to be able to lead the town to good lynches without making it too clear that they are masons, I would've certainly appreciated more of a proactive approach by the protown elements in this game, instead of the cautious approach that did bog the game down.
I imagine if I were to run this again I'd give deadline kills to scum to provide an incentive for the town to work against a clock or something along those lines.
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well i'd balance the numbers to account for it.
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