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In post 625, numberQ wrote:

Spoiler: Flowers

Hiroshige,

Hibiscus

(ca. 1845)

Vote Count (2.8)

butterflies

[0]

[E-2]

Enchant

[3]

Umlaut, Titus, furtiveglance
fireisredsir

[0]

furtiveglance

[1]

butterflies
implosion

[1]

fireisredsir
ItalianoVD

[0]

Noraa

[0]

Titus

[0]

Umlaut

[0]

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to eliminate.

Not Voting:

Enchant, implosion, ItalianoVD, Noraa

Deadline:

April 14th, 2022, 4:15 PM EST ((expired on 2022-04-14 16:15:00))

In post 668, furtiveglance wrote:It's easy to verify I am telling the truth, my background is on mafia.gg where Blue is Town and Red is mafia. Your theory was that Enchant is the Blue Painter's Block and I said Blue instead of scum? I was saying if they're town at this point it's their fault for being so scummy, not my fault for scumreading them. I don't see what you were seeing at all......

In post 677, fireisredsir wrote:ok thats why I didn't think it was a slip. didn't want to give him the answer just in case, but... i think it's pretty clear that's what it meant. doesn't mean your other reasons for suspecting are invalid, but i think that one is

Italiano p sus for jumping on that though

In post 676, butterflies wrote:

In post 668, furtiveglance wrote:It's easy to verify I am telling the truth, my background is on mafia.gg where Blue is Town and Red is mafia. Your theory was that Enchant is the Blue Painter's Block and I said Blue instead of scum? I was saying if they're town at this point it's their fault for being so scummy, not my fault for scumreading them. I don't see what you were seeing at all......

See mafia.gg has blue as town, not as scum... by your own admission and my own lurking.

So why would you say blue instead of scum?

-butterflea

In post 681, butterflies wrote:

In post 677, fireisredsir wrote:ok thats why I didn't think it was a slip. didn't want to give him the answer just in case, but... i think it's pretty clear that's what it meant. doesn't mean your other reasons for suspecting are invalid, but i think that one is

Italiano p sus for jumping on that though

So you're buying the bad cover up story?

Town = Blue.
Enchant = flipping blue.
Furtive = VOTING ENCHANT.

The logic does not follow.

-Butterflea.

In post 678, fireisredsir wrote:VOTE: italiano

In post 684, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 678, fireisredsir wrote:VOTE: italiano

Well hello to you too.

In post 66, furtiveglance wrote:Hi everyone, I'll read through, give my thoughts on players, and vote tonight when I get home. As for the strategy talk, I read a previous game of this setup and town actually lost the main game, and the mafia wouldn't have guessed the Merlins correctly. Therefore we might have slightly more wiggle room in terms of Muses influencing the game or even claiming outright than you might expect. The main thing is to ensure we at least win the main game.

In post 686, furtiveglance wrote:Italiano, Galron didn't say much. You said you had been following the game - what are your reads so far?

In post 679, ItalianoVD wrote:To be honest I repped in because I love the playerlist. It’s unfortunate I wasn’t able to kick it with Dunnstral and Gamma, but I’ll be just fine with Noraa, Nancy, and Flea.

In post 688, butterflies wrote:In that case fire, I can't help you. If you can work out why furtive is voting enchant who is now a townread in a game where furtive has by their own admission said they're being particular with their vote and need to listen to their townreads, then let me know.

You do not vote your TRs with that long left on the timer.
You do not sit there happily with the game going stagnant with over a week left and your vote parked on a TR.
Furtive has TMI'd Enchant as blue.
Enchant has pretty much confirmed they are blue.

I will not drop this as Furtive has perspective slipped earlier.

In post 66, furtiveglance wrote:Hi everyone, I'll read through, give my thoughts on players, and vote tonight when I get home. As for the strategy talk, I read a previous game of this setup and town actually lost the main game, and the mafia wouldn't have guessed the Merlins correctly. Therefore we might have slightly more wiggle room in terms of Muses influencing the game or even claiming outright than you might expect. The main thing is to ensure we at least win the main game.

There is only one game for town. scum have 2 games, one to solve Muses, the other to elim all town. Both me and Nancy spotted this post as questionable. I threw a bone at the time, but nah. Too many slips and too much evidence at this point.

We yeet either furtive or enchant tbh, cause the other gets yeet tomorrow.
and yes, I am threatening the Tunnel'o'flea.

-Butterflea.

In post 689, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 686, furtiveglance wrote:Italiano, Galron didn't say much. You said you had been following the game - what are your reads so far?

Today I’m sheeping. Tomorrow I’ll give reads and all that.

In post 505, furtiveglance wrote:I hate to disappoint you, but I'm not mafia. I'll be impressed if you're right about Enchant/Umlaut, but I would warn against relying on meta too much. That's how we quickhammered town yesterday, because of a 'meta read'.

In post 503, furtiveglance wrote:

In post 499, butterflies wrote:

enchant/Umlaut/furtive

Remember this when we die.


~Nancyfly

I actually agree with Enchant and Umlaut both being scummy. I think Enchant is the best vote today. I can't see Enchant/Umlaut together though. Obviously bussing exists, I just can't see why scum would do it in this setup, in which Town has a lot of information. Mafia scumreading teammates and townreading town seems like very bad strategy. I admit to not having a complete team in the same way that you do, but I think a more realistic solve is Enchant/Titus if scum!Enchant and Umlaut/implosion if town!Enchant. Galron could be scum in either case but I'm not sure on them yet.

In post 692, furtiveglance wrote:

In post 688, butterflies wrote:In that case fire, I can't help you. If you can work out why furtive is voting enchant who is now a townread in a game where furtive has by their own admission said they're being particular with their vote and need to listen to their townreads, then let me know.

You do not vote your TRs with that long left on the timer.
You do not sit there happily with the game going stagnant with over a week left and your vote parked on a TR.
Furtive has TMI'd Enchant as blue.
Enchant has pretty much confirmed they are blue.

I will not drop this as Furtive has perspective slipped earlier.

In post 66, furtiveglance wrote:Hi everyone, I'll read through, give my thoughts on players, and vote tonight when I get home. As for the strategy talk, I read a previous game of this setup and town actually lost the main game, and the mafia wouldn't have guessed the Merlins correctly. Therefore we might have slightly more wiggle room in terms of Muses influencing the game or even claiming outright than you might expect. The main thing is to ensure we at least win the main game.

There is only one game for town. scum have 2 games, one to solve Muses, the other to elim all town. Both me and Nancy spotted this post as questionable. I threw a bone at the time, but nah. Too many slips and too much evidence at this point.

We yeet either furtive or enchant tbh, cause the other gets yeet tomorrow.
and yes, I am threatening the Tunnel'o'flea.

-Butterflea.

Enchant has never been a townread of mine. That was your own invention. Anyone who has read my posts should know this. As for my comment about the 'main game', I'm just conscious that mafia have a secondary win con - which they weren't close to completing in a previous game when town lost outright, so town has slightly more leeway regarding Muses than people might think. So both of these points are redundant. If you think my posts are otherwise 'fake' I can't really help you, that's just a matter of opinion.

In post 168, furtiveglance wrote:Malcolm: Laughed at TTT's unfunny joke in 23. No offence TTT but it wasn't. Since then has grown into the game by snapping at the heels of O. In 104 they explain (unprompted) why they are town in Luke's eyes. Many unnecessary posts, and could be deemed guilty of tunneling O.

If O flips green,

would be in contention to get my vote. That said, for now it's a Townlean.

In post 696, butterflies wrote:

In post 505, furtiveglance wrote:I hate to disappoint you, but I'm not mafia. I'll be impressed if you're right about Enchant/Umlaut, but I would warn against relying on meta too much. That's how we quickhammered town yesterday, because of a 'meta read'.

In post 503, furtiveglance wrote:

In post 499, butterflies wrote:

enchant/Umlaut/furtive

Remember this when we die.


~Nancyfly

I actually agree with Enchant and Umlaut both being scummy. I think Enchant is the best vote today. I can't see Enchant/Umlaut together though. Obviously bussing exists, I just can't see why scum would do it in this setup, in which Town has a lot of information. Mafia scumreading teammates and townreading town seems like very bad strategy. I admit to not having a complete team in the same way that you do, but I think a more realistic solve is Enchant/Titus if scum!Enchant and Umlaut/implosion if town!Enchant. Galron could be scum in either case but I'm not sure on them yet.

In post 692, furtiveglance wrote:

In post 688, butterflies wrote:In that case fire, I can't help you. If you can work out why furtive is voting enchant who is now a townread in a game where furtive has by their own admission said they're being particular with their vote and need to listen to their townreads, then let me know.

You do not vote your TRs with that long left on the timer.
You do not sit there happily with the game going stagnant with over a week left and your vote parked on a TR.
Furtive has TMI'd Enchant as blue.
Enchant has pretty much confirmed they are blue.

I will not drop this as Furtive has perspective slipped earlier.

In post 66, furtiveglance wrote:Hi everyone, I'll read through, give my thoughts on players, and vote tonight when I get home. As for the strategy talk, I read a previous game of this setup and town actually lost the main game, and the mafia wouldn't have guessed the Merlins correctly. Therefore we might have slightly more wiggle room in terms of Muses influencing the game or even claiming outright than you might expect. The main thing is to ensure we at least win the main game.

There is only one game for town. scum have 2 games, one to solve Muses, the other to elim all town. Both me and Nancy spotted this post as questionable. I threw a bone at the time, but nah. Too many slips and too much evidence at this point.

We yeet either furtive or enchant tbh, cause the other gets yeet tomorrow.
and yes, I am threatening the Tunnel'o'flea.

-Butterflea.

Enchant has never been a townread of mine. That was your own invention. Anyone who has read my posts should know this. As for my comment about the 'main game', I'm just conscious that mafia have a secondary win con - which they weren't close to completing in a previous game when town lost outright, so town has slightly more leeway regarding Muses than people might think. So both of these points are redundant. If you think my posts are otherwise 'fake' I can't really help you, that's just a matter of opinion.

Thats actually fair... you wouldn't want to TR your deepwolf ticket.

you keep saying your conscious of stuff, and being self self-conscious.
You realise that's a scumtrait, right?

Town dgaf how they look. I rarely do. I say it how I see it. Admittedly I cock up like I did on your Enchant TR, my bad, I retract that.
Thing is as far as I'm concerned, you and Enchant confirmed Enchant as the Blue Block.

Cause I looked at your other games too, as well as stayed on mafia.gg for a little bit.

People don't mention colours much in the games I've observed there. For rapid fire games they actually say roles/abbrevs for the roles.

And you've never said blue as an alignment in the time you've been here. For that matter you've never used Red or Green either.

-Butterflea