↑Plotinus wrote:(Consider my vote to be on OC as well, but I have a policy against voting after midnight after what happened in my recently completed newbie game)
Intent to vote Plot here for a ridiculous post that serves no purpose other than to set up a later vote and make him appear hesitant ... for awful reasons. Wow.
I have a policy against voting after midnight. I will adhere to this policy regardless of my alignment. I need to be able to count and able to think properly before casting votes. How does stating this make me look better? "I need a special policy in place to keep me from accidentally derphammering" wow sure that makes me look super great. I am using sarcasm right now. No one gets brownie points for doing the bare minimum it takes not to screw things up for other players.
Also, ask yourself why I would want to appear more hesitant when people have been trying all game to get me to be less hesitant, less wishy washy, more sure of my opinions than I am? I don't. I just want other players to know what I was intending to do with my vote when it's no longer after midnight so that they could plan accordingly (voting the same as me, deciding pre-emptively that they don't want to be on a wagon with me, whatever).
Anyway it's morning and I still feel this way: VOTE: Oranje Crush
That's L-1
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:52 am
by Cuttlefish
Vote Count 9.04
Oranje Crush (3)
- BBmolla, BRantz, Plotinus
Plotinus (1)
- Oranje Crush
Not Voting (2)
- Drixx, Bulbasaur Commonwealth
With 6 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-05-21 11:46:33).
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:34 pm
by wgeurts
Both of my scum reads on my wagon.
It hurts.
But fucking hammer already so you can lynch plot tommorow.
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:52 pm
by BRantz
@Drixx and BC: Would you rather lynch OC or Plot today, and why?
UNVOTE:
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:23 pm
by BRantz
The three of us are the people somewhat on the fence about this, so if we can come to an agreement that would probably be for the best.
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:07 pm
by BBmolla
↑wgeurts wrote:Both of my scum reads on my wagon.
It hurts.
But fucking hammer already so you can lynch plot tommorow.
↑wgeurts wrote:Guys if you fucking mislynch me today we loose
lol
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:33 pm
by BBmolla
↑BRantz wrote:The three of us are the people somewhat on the fence about this, so if we can come to an agreement that would probably be for the best.
PLEASE
HE'S JUST DOING APPEALS
HIS CLAIM IS FUCKING FAKE HE'S SCUM
THINK OF KURIBO
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 1:14 am
by Oranje Crush
As compared to what you're doing?
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 1:15 am
by Oranje Crush
In no universe does it make sense to give up a >50% chance to lynch scum in order to go after a <20% chance that may not even exist. The fact that you and Plot both are voting outside of {you, plot, BC} is really terrible.
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 1:26 am
by Plotinus
Oranje, can you explain why I should by voting in the category of {my medium townread, self, my strong townread}? I know you were mostly talking to Molla there but you mentioned me so I'm asking.
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 1:55 am
by Oranje Crush
It should be obvious...
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 1:55 am
by Oranje Crush
The nuke is a mafia kill. We have 2 inno results and Brantz was out of play for a nuke after narn died
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 2:12 am
by Plotinus
UNVOTE: Oranje
still think you are a good candidate for devour but what you said makes sense, and nuke will be easier to find than devour because 1 in 3 (1 in 2 from my own perspective) is easier than 1 in 6 (1 in 5 from my own perspective).
I'm going to reread some stuff.
Sorry for being a bit dense lately. Not going to make excuses; it is what it is. But maybe rereading will help.
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:45 am
by Plotinus
Spoiler: BBmolla
tl;dr
: BBmolla has not changed his mind very much this game, with the main exceptions being when someone became confscum or conftown. A few notable exceptions: he started townreading me and Bulba very recently, also started townreading Magua after a very early scumread. That's not what I'd expect from a player with 359 posts (5th most active) in a game that's been lasting 3 months. I didn't very often find his reads evolving to take into account new information from other players, except in the nobrainer cases like ozgin having a guilty on pika, lucian proving his ability with a vigshot, deathfisaro's flip clearing boon, the masons, etc. It makes me wonder if the newfound townread on me and Bulba is buddying, especially because I do feel hesitant now about voting him when he's been sticking up for me.
Also, while I was reading the ISO mainly, for each post I looked at the surrounding context a little bit to see who he was responding to and interacting with since he doesn't seem to like quotes. In the case of several of his votes, even after rereading the preceeding 3-4 pages, it was impossible to tell why he was voting the person he was voting.
I think if it is BBmolla then tropical volcano does nuke from orbit, which is not what Oranje said so that'd make Oranje devour which is what I thought anyway about Oranje.
VOTE: BBmolla
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 10:35 am
by Cuttlefish
Vote Count 9.05
Oranje Crush (1)
- BBmolla
Plotinus (1)
- Oranje Crush
BBmolla (1)
- Plotinus
Not Voting (3)
- Drixx, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, BRantz
With 6 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-05-21 11:46:33).
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:06 am
by BBmolla
K fuck it
UNVOTE:
I'll hammer whoever is at l-1 I don't fucking care anymore we're going to fucking lose anyway.
I'm done trying
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:09 am
by BBmolla
I sure hope you are fucking scum plot, cause I don't reasonably see someone being so fucking bad
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:09 am
by BBmolla
I can't fucking wait for post game so kuribo can yell at you fucks for ignoring us both.
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:33 am
by Plotinus
I'm not scum. I'm not great at reading people, but I'm trying. I agree with you about Oranje. But it does make sense to get nuke before devour.
I've been townreading you until now. I spent a long time looking at your ISO today. I saw a few things that concerned me. Convince that I'm going about this wrong if I am. You're at L-3. I'm not sure 3 people are going to follow me until your wagon so me putting a little pressure on you isn't going to cause a catastrophe if I'm wrong I don't think.
You have been kinda tunnelling Bulba all game but you declared him town fairly recently. Why? Changing your mind is good and it's hard to do it after a long tunnelling session so you must have a reason for it.
You have been tunnelling Oranje all game. I believe you about Oranje. But it does kinda look like your reads haven't changed much all game. On the other hand, a lot of the people you've scumread (across all scum categories) have flipped scum, so that's a big point in your favour.
Do you agree with Oranje that nuke has to be in [me, you, bulba]?
You haven't interacted evenly with all slots and I'm not sure if that means anything or not. Maybe scum would carefully keep track to make sure they talked to everyone. Maybe keeping careful track is too much work for scum. I don't know. I don't know how you being a miller affects your interactions with Volcano because if you are a miller then you don't know who they are, so you interact with them the way you interact with everyone, but how would you interact with them if you weren't a miller (but were scum instead)? I think it would affect your interactions with them but I don't know in what way.
I should have been mislynched the day deathfisaro was modkilled. It would have been better all around. I'm starting to think that there is a day when someone has to be lynched even if they're town because if they live longer they'll just continue to be a distraction. There was a slot like that in my second newbie game. They were town but if we hadn't lynched them day 2 we would have mislynched them in lylo on day 3 (instead of the other townie that we mislynched).
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:02 pm
by BBmolla
Why can't he be devour
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:04 pm
by BBmolla
Bulbas posts lately have seemed genuine and his role is unlikely to be scum imo
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:07 pm
by BBmolla
Oh I misread
It doesn't make sense to go for something your less confident in when everyone is pretty confident oc is scum
I claimed sk in naruto as scum and lived to endgame cause they "wanted to get other scum" who they obviously weren't as sure of.
You lynch the ones you are certain are scum
I don't fucking know if oc is nuke or devour, he is fucking scum
Please, if you want to mislynch me to lose the fucking game do it tomorrow
Just give me and kuribo the satisfaction of oc scum lynch
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:07 pm
by BBmolla
I have been tunneling on oc since he first started his bullshit claim.
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:09 pm
by BBmolla
Plot I'm fucking town, if you're scum who is not aligned with oc, help me lynch him and maybe you can mislynch me tomorrow
Just give me my oc lynch please
If you and oc are a team continue what you're doin