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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:40 am
by Vecna
In post 6876, Jingle wrote:
People haven't been voting her.
Basically, Nero/Shoshin/Vecna are trying to sort each other today when logic tells us they're all still going to be around tomorrow.
Also, you're also probably still going to be around tomorrow because your predecessor claimed some kill dodge-y mechanic and we have no reason to disbelieve that. Fire is also still probably going to be around tomorrow because we have hidden protective role(s) scum needs to hunt out still.
I'm of the opinion that we should end the day, let scum kill someone who they think is dangerous (I hope it's me!) and then try to figure out the other scum in the morning when we have more information and massclaim is probably optimal.
That kill dodgy thing does kind of look weird on JJH though. Deathproof, resurrection or w/e it was that was claimed, JK, babysitter, bodyguard. It really shouldnt all be on the townteam
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:41 am
by Vecna
In post 6877, Jingle wrote: In post 6875, Nero Cain wrote:but you guys, wasn't it actually Jingle that was leading Nico and she refused to gladiate BOTH Jingle and Nico?
She refused to gladiate me when I asked while at Hurt-2, yeah. She said she wouldn't gladiate anyone until a hammer was cast.
So why werent you suspicious of me moving Varsoon to the top in hindsight, with the ability usage, seeing how both varsoon and Mastina ended up being scum? Why no suspicion that it was a planned move?
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:49 am
by Vecna
In post 6925, Nero Cain wrote:
Shouldn't you try to be more informed about the setup? You should always be sitting on Fire.
Why did you claim?
Or like, on Meme? Especially if this flips scum
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:53 am
by Gamma Emerald
Hm
How about Shoshin goes on Fire and our resident Loud Babysitter goes on MEME MEN
There’s a logic to this.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:54 am
by Vecna
Yeah killing the babysitter and Meme men at the same time seems wonderful for scum
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:25 am
by Nero Cain
IDK, it begs the question of who is more important. A conftown or a parity cop. She's a claimed BG so like its a one or 2 two day lease at best.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:38 am
by Nero Cain
i guess yeah. you take the investigation role here.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:22 am
by Vecna
More importantly, you dont let it be completely predictable
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:10 am
by Jingle
In post 6951, Vecna wrote:So why werent you suspicious of me moving Varsoon to the top in hindsight, with the ability usage, seeing how both varsoon and Mastina ended up being scum? Why no suspicion that it was a planned move?
From my POV your switch represented a switch from me being the gladiation clear to Varsoon being the lynch. I'll take the latter over the former any day. I mean... it's possible that you did it entirely for towncred, but for now I'm satisfied that you're probably town. And I don't think that scenario was an entirely planned bit of theater. Varsoon comes across as incredibly frustrated with the gamestate, regardless of mastina's being mafia.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:13 am
by Creature
We're having more useless days despite mastina dying
If there's nothing to add just hammer so we can move on
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:25 am
by THE MEME MEN
In post 6896, jjh927 wrote:Either Nico is gonna flip scum or my entire perspective on the game is getting obliterated
We're not gonna make this any more accurate by waiting around imo
Then...why are you not voting nicorobin. Are you? Rereading pgs I missed to compile the vc.
also @RC thank you but my opinion is no need for hurt counts to be compiled too.
In post 6890, Jingle wrote:
I proposed multivoting and hurtcounts as a way to make the day faster.
Despite self voting, no one else would hammer the gladiate on me for some reason. She had been asked to gladiate both me and nico at that point in the day, and she wanted to wait to see if she could get Varsoon instead.
Varsoon was at L-2 or L-3 at that point iirc. Then Vecna unvoted me to put Nico, Varsoon and I at all the same level gladiate wise because he wanted a NR gladiate over a me gladiate. Varsoon went off and did his thing and died.
Meme was the loudest proponent of mastina hipshooting gladiates, but Nero was another big name there iirc. JJ threatened to use his role to prevent gladiation to try to force her to gladiate faster, but didn't, on the same day as Varsoon's death.
I think jj might have been the one to start the democratic process of the gladiate, but it happened before me and I'm not slogging through his 4000 posts again to find out. If not him, it was probably mastina.
Fire, Varsoon, Wheme, Ari and I think some other peeps just wanted to lynch mastina, and me and jj were the only real opposition to that before the Varsoon lynch iirc. Vecna was significant resistance to that afterwards.
LeBron James with photographic memory, is that you!
I appreciate Jingle a lot.
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And wow, pg 274 wall post from shos .
-LH
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:29 am
by THE MEME MEN
wheme's scum AND town meta is similar to not_mafia's. Super bare and hard to read. Still, I've had him likely town since like d1.
nihilism?
Nico mentioned her last thoughts , and it was basically reiterating her flavor of Portgas D Ace & how much she loved Ace. That makes absolutely no sense to be a tracker triplevoter.
-LH
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:30 am
by Jingle
I'm not saying I told you so.
I'm specifically not saying that.
Because it's more fun when I don't say that.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:34 am
by Jingle
I was roleblocked and given the post restriction that I could only refer to it as "I chose not to act because town couldn't win or I forgot or Nihilism or something similar." (Not exact wording, but you get the gist) until the day after. Presumably Ari had the same thing happen last night.
I mistakenly thought that Creature had claimed to be responsible at somepoint and when he outed results thought he was scumclaiming. He confirmed afterwards that he just identified with the post as an IRL nihilist.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:36 am
by THE MEME MEN
VOTE: Nicorobin
That's the hammer.
-Shiro & Sora
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:36 am
by THE MEME MEN
jingle (1) : nero
nico (10) : jjh, nsg, creat, fb, jingle, lady, Gamma Emerald, Aristophanes, Shiro, Sora - LYNCH
Not Voting (6): Nicorobin, Whemestar, profi, Porkens, Vecna, Shoshin
With 17 alive it's 9 to lynch.
The day will end on Dec 11/12
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vecna - 3-shot jk, shos - bg, profi/alde/kuroi - able to resurrect & conf town, firebringer - neighbor & conf town, nicorobin - tracker triplevoter, us - parity cop doublevoter, jingle - pizza delivery man, LA - dreaming god, jjh - 1-shot bp, creature - flavor cop
nero/nsg/aris/wheme/GE/pork - no claim
varsoon - scum blackout (ends day and it turns to night phase immediately)
mastina - scum hated gladiator (-1 vote to be lynched & jjh has defended her most of the game + jjh voted no lynch on d4)
-LH
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:36 am
by THE MEME MEN
pedit: "The day will end on Dec 11/12 OR when lynch is achieved"
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:42 am
by Jingle
In post 6950, Vecna wrote:That kill dodgy thing does kind of look weird on JJH though. Deathproof, resurrection or w/e it was that was claimed, JK, babysitter, bodyguard. It really shouldnt all be on the townteam
Eh. That's a post massclaim argument, but I can actually see town as needing all of that.
It is very unlikely Chickadee was killed by town.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:55 am
by Creature
Yeah, Jingle has claimed to have been nihilistized something.
I think he even thought I was claiming nihilistizer somewhere.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:57 am
by Creature
Wasn't Chickadee modkilled?
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:05 am
by Shoshin
I tend to find Not_Mafia pretty easy to read. Not enough experience with Wheme to know, but in general I do pretty well at reading these "super bare" players. Wheme's definitely looking like scum here.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:07 am
by Creature
Removed bookmarked topic successfully.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:20 am
by Jingle
RC said she wasn't and it looks distinct from the Vizzy flip, supposedly.
Haven't actually compared them, because I'm being lame and lazy atm.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:29 am
by Lady Angel
Chick's death flavour matches up exactly with Vaxkiller's, so the chances of her having been modkilled are extremely slim.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:37 am
by Nero Cain
Why did you claim, Shoshin?