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My only true reads are Navi/Gork being town

Unfortunately that's not enough but some of you have weird intentions I haven't been able to pick up yet

unwnd why are you hesitant to go after any bigger targets

In post 701, Dannflor wrote:unwnd why are you hesitant to go after any bigger targets

I don't understand the criticism you have with me, scum is scum?

it's not criticism really, i am sincerely wondering the answer to the question

like you don't town read me yet so why wouldn't you vote me today?

I assume by bigger targets you mean [Dann, Myself, Pooky, Worst, Gork, MURDERCAT] right?

I think that list (outside of myself) is pretty uncharted to me. I have my townread on Gork because I think his insight is focused and not determined by having potential teammates to look out for. The Kaz angle is something I agree with too; the way people ineract with his content seems rather independent as well. I'm just not really voting there because I'm selfish.

Regardless, If the big players had a net value of say..2 or more I think they'd be more excited? When I have a lot of blanks to fill in I start to try and make sense of things from my own personal experience. That includes what I'd do if I were scum. If my teammates aren't just a bunch of slankers I have way more energy. I'd have partners to work off of and sow the seeds of doubt much deeper. I'm not really seeing any of you there listed as more than 2 unless you're nervous yourself and to that I'd wonder what for. You have so many angles to work with because output for the most part is scattered and everyone is probably a degree of limmable. That's why I only personally have 2 townreads and I'd like to get more but there's no forward movement. Gork's thoughts on Kaz is probably the most important subject to come out today and maybe my back and forth with worst.

On the topic of my back and forth with worst, what is your read on him? If Worst were a hypothetical big shot scum, don't you think his big splash into the game would provoke more reads on him? Yet they don't. This isn't saying 'worst should be town' for that reason, rather I think worst is a decent to above scum and if he fit the mold of big shot on the red team, I'd want to float him. I'd want to give him a favorable position, but instead he's kinda just eating off scraps like the rest of us. I guess that's where my own theory of gamestate comes in, where it doesn't seem anyone has a plan. That's both good/bad because it's much harder to track people when they're spontaneous.

I just realized I never directly answered 'why wouldn't I vote you today' and it's that I'm not willing to gamble. You'd have to do something incredulous but right now you're either playing safe or you're at the same place I'm at where things are weird and slightly unsure but you've got leanings in ten different directions but nowhere to go.

such high praise... I'm blushing...

will post actual content tomorrow, I need to get the fuck to bed

In post 17, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I've actually tried to start a band in a game once

I remember that

In post 22, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:unwnd not wanting to join my cult is actually ++scum

VOTE: unwnd

Doubt it. I read his ISO pre-rep in, unwnd seems pretty decent to me so far

I mean one of us will be right and one of us will be wrong

In post 34, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 33, unwnd wrote:

In post 30, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 28, unwnd wrote:Actually both of those games you claimed cult you were scum if I think about it

it's actually 3 games out of 3 which is why your reaction is lol so bad

Why do I join your cult if you're evil

the better question is why did it take you this long to go "wait pooky does this when he's scum"

Not everyone is all there at the start of the game
This feels like bad faith questioning
If unwnd were scum I envision he’d have actually come out swinging

In post 46, House wrote:Unwnd's aggressiveness right out of the gate is giving me townpings.

Pooky is obviously meming, but unwnd doesn't seem concerned about falling under scrutiny for going all serious sauce.

I like.

Like this thought on unwnd, also reinforces my read there
House’s other posting on this page is also okay
disagree on unwnd not pushing Pooky being a reason to vote unwnd tho

@711: or maybe this is just AU again (or I’d that what you WANT me to think!? )

In post 56, Kazyan wrote:

In post 47, House wrote:

In post 26, Kazyan wrote:Teeny tiny townping from Megazumarill btw

Why? I get the opposite vibe.

The question is pretty passive.

It felt like the way town would react to seeing Pooky for the first time off-the-cuff; I'd think scum would come at Pooky more seriously simply due to sheer confusion, because scum tries to blend in and a room is hard to read when there's a bear breakdancing in the middle of it

Kazyan seems a bit like town on this page

In post 61, Kazyan wrote:

In post 58, House wrote:I mean... maybe?

Flash reads of players admittedly isn't my strong suit (I have precious few of those, unfortunately), but I'm trying to learn.

+town for wanting to solve, but holy crap don't try to learn from me. I'm generally okay at townreads, but really really bad at scumreads.

In post 59, unwnd wrote:If pooky wants to loltroll and eventually got boxed in by people being townier than him then like

He's doing the job for me?

...What?

This also seems towny for how absurd the first part is. Kazyan, bless your heart, House doesn’t need any pointers on how to play.

In post 65, House wrote:(that's one reason i was so abrasive/hostile the last time i was here... I was misunderstood and didn't want to open up to people about why I am the way I am because I'm generally a private person)

Ive had issues being open about my own emotional state but at a certain point I went

Btw on the topic of Slayer’s Gambit, I don’t think I like that as a playstyle though it can be used decently in sparing doses. I take greater issue with the mindset of “I am aware my play gets commonly scumread but rather than I’m going to continue playing the same way and also bitch at people for SRing play that I already know gets scumread a lot”

In post 69, unwnd wrote:

In post 68, Kazyan wrote:

Townlean

:
House (desire to solve)
Megazumarill (Pooky reaction)

Null

:
Pooky
Everyone else

Who are you people?

:
Gork
Navi
Wake88

I'm Particularly Confused About

:
unwnd (I'm not digging the 'I don't care' vibe, but I'm also getting flashbacks to T3's replace-out in Not Quite Normal Multiball where the scummy thing really was just a joke)

Scumlean

:
Loftwing (both posts feel stiff. P-EDIT: Three posts now, but you know what I mean)

..You can make a readlist 69 posts in? lol

Two-thirds of the players are in shade of null

In post 542, House wrote:VOTE: KidAmn

We should just hammer this slot.

In post 546, Dwlee99 wrote:We should at least get a claim here probably

Why not just wait for replacement if it's going to happen?

In post 550, Loftwing wrote:..Who is getting replaced? I know wake got repped, but KidAmn was just prodded like 2 seconds ago, certainly not too much need for worry that they will get repped.

I like this post

In post 567, Kazyan wrote:I sure do love to see people sheeping Pooky's cries of "partner!" when I townread someone and "OMGUS!" when I don't. FFS this game is so scum-led it hurts. Do you guys have any reads that aren't related to me?

Kaz seems the same as Dogs v Cats to me

In post 577, Dwlee99 wrote:I think every time I've pushed someone on the "how do you actually believe that" tell they've just been wrong town

Maybe I'm misremembering though, it just doesn't seem super reliable. Now it isn't necessarily bad to kill those slots because that can indirectly advance win con by removing people that make it harder to scum hunt, but I just don't believe in it as a tell. See me pushing Titus in MBOS. She claimed me/norwee/t3 were the scumteam day one, said we were locktowning each other (we weren't), and said that she was completely convinced that was the team. I called BS because it was a ridiculous read (I townread norwee and t3 at the time, although the t3 townread was kind of flimsy and he ended up being evil), but Titus was town. Anyway long story short I don't think it's a great tell

dwlee looking towny

{Dwlee, Dannflor, Worst, Unwnd}

This is my town list. Gamma is dead null as far as I'm concerned, and I agree a vote there is a waste of time right now.

The early Kaz wagon seems scum inflated imo, and the worst vote there is Meg, who also jumped onto the kid wagon.

VOTE: Meg

how come i dont get a read

From me? Because you know I can't read you lol

The votes on you are either dumb or, in Dann's case, unclear

hell yea the reigning paragon cant read me.

It's not that I can't read you, I am just using a less optimal strategy that only works 75% of the time