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In post 7018, Cephrir wrote:

In post 6768, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 6761, Cephrir wrote:Fwiw if I were to make the decision alone I would have picked mathblade

So why didn’t you? I wouldn’t be feeling so demoralized by losing one of my strongest trs.

Low confidence in my reads so I wanted some help. Some of the players i asked are better scumhunters than me

In post 7016, Enchant wrote:For combo we need Day 2 ended by Taly/Ceph elimination anyway.

In post 7018, Cephrir wrote:

In post 6768, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 6761, Cephrir wrote:Fwiw if I were to make the decision alone I would have picked mathblade

So why didn’t you? I wouldn’t be feeling so demoralized by losing one of my strongest trs.

Low confidence in my reads so I wanted some help. Some of the players i asked are better scumhunters than me

In post 7002, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 6929, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 6927, MathBlade wrote:@Dunn @Pooky what mech arguments are being made for Cephrir/Taly?

dunn hasnt done enough anti town shit today he's trying to gaslight me into thinking that yeeting taly!town is protown because he's happy to lose

I feel like I keep seeing posts from pooky and drap that act like my own view point is somehow invalid, or impossible for town to have. Which makes me completely disregard their arguments tbh.

In post 7006, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 6616, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 6613, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 6608, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think Frogster spewed Taly/Ceph both town

How is Ceph spewed town?

cuz frogster is scum and his initial reaction to gladiate was to "sleep on the choice" which means he's thinking about which townflip puts him in a better position tommorrow.

@Taly, this is Pooky’s theory. But I think you will very likely die if we don’t no lim. :/

In post 7014, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 6814, Taly wrote:

In post 6751, Cephrir wrote:

In post 6676, Lukewarm wrote:There is a lot of math and scenarios on why KILLING YOURSELF is better then killing no one.

One example is that It affects how many protective have to land before the town is bought a miselim.

Like, right now a doctor saving one (1) player = an extra town miselim. If we no kill, then a doctor would have to save two (2) players to = an extra town miselim.

But also, info for looking back.

I agree with this and would rather selfvote than allow no lim to happen

i share the same opinion.

Both players on the chopping black have said that they would rather self vote then allow a no elim to happen.

In post 7021, Rad wrote:

In post 7000, Taly wrote:

In post 6998, Taly wrote:

In post 6983, Taly wrote:I want people to justify their

Ceph

townread.

I still want this addressed. I'm failing to see the town perspective from

Ceph's

play here and a no elimination will resolve very little, and indirectly posits that

Ceph

is town.

Sure I'll answer your question.

I believe a town!Ceph recognized the game state was terrible for town. We're just spinning our wheels constantly in different directions with no real cohesion. We've got PRs announcing left and right and surely more to come with more new wagons. Many people were openly stating how long d1 is dragging on and how they hated it. Most people are stating that the game is too fast and they can't keep up, so most people aren't even reading the entire thread at this point and just coming to conclusions anyway because if they don't, people scum read them for it. So many people are being toxic as fuck and shouting at each other making no real progress on anything. I think town!Ceph decided enough was enough and got his top town reads to decide who should be eliminated and made his move.

Or a scum!Ceph I guess could be diverting attention from a frog or mala vote by putting himself in the crossfire and hoping we all come to the town!Ceph conclusion?

I gotta lean toward the more straight forward answer of town!Ceph.

That said, again, I'll vote ceph over taly here if I choose to vote because an any alignment ceph flip at least heals town and a town!Taly flip absolutely destroys it. I don't think we see a scum flip in either of the 2 options so I'd only go for that if I conclude that it's just the smarter town move due to "stats/theory reasons", or if I convince myself that this town needs a ceph flip to progress.

In post 7027, Cephrir wrote:It is frustrating that this looks like it's going to work out so poorly

In post 7030, Taly wrote:

In post 7027, Cephrir wrote:It is frustrating that this looks like it's going to work out so poorly

What was your intention?

In post 7027, Cephrir wrote:It is frustrating that this looks like it's going to work out so poorly

In post 7031, Cephrir wrote:

In post 7030, Taly wrote:

In post 7027, Cephrir wrote:It is frustrating that this looks like it's going to work out so poorly

What was your intention?

To end the day with an elimination that I felt had a solid chance of flipping scum. I still think there is a decent chance.

Nolim is a bad result

In post 7027, Cephrir wrote:It is frustrating that this looks like it's going to work out so poorly

In post 7031, Cephrir wrote:

In post 7030, Taly wrote:

In post 7027, Cephrir wrote:It is frustrating that this looks like it's going to work out so poorly

What was your intention?

To end the day with an elimination that I felt had a solid chance of flipping scum. I still think there is a decent chance.

Nolim is a bad result

In post 7034, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 7027, Cephrir wrote:It is frustrating that this looks like it's going to work out so poorly

mb you should've gotten 14 votes lined up before you activated your ability to eliminate our ability to vote

In post 7036, Cephrir wrote:

In post 7034, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 7027, Cephrir wrote:It is frustrating that this looks like it's going to work out so poorly

mb you should've gotten 14 votes lined up before you activated your ability to eliminate our ability to vote

We had about 250 pages and never got past 7 votes on anyone

In post 7035, Taly wrote:

In post 7031, Cephrir wrote:

In post 7030, Taly wrote:

In post 7027, Cephrir wrote:It is frustrating that this looks like it's going to work out so poorly

What was your intention?

To end the day with an elimination that I felt had a solid chance of flipping scum. I still think there is a decent chance.

Nolim is a bad result

You never digressed on your scumread of me though, from what I have seen. I only saw you mention it in your reads when it became easy to push me. This gladiate feels like an easy option to protect a scumbuddy or at the very least solidify a mislim.

Why did you feel so compelled to gladiate when there was only 3 viable options previously, where there was plenty of calls for consolidation?

What are your reads on

Mala

and

Frogs

?

In post 7038, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 7036, Cephrir wrote:

In post 7034, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 7027, Cephrir wrote:It is frustrating that this looks like it's going to work out so poorly

mb you should've gotten 14 votes lined up before you activated your ability to eliminate our ability to vote

We had about 250 pages and never got past 7 votes on anyone

you still need to convince people to vote for the person you want to eliminate.

activating your ability is not going to magically change anyone's mind.

In post 1041, Taly wrote:hey lovelies it's the beakiest bitch of them all

uh I only read this past page and I think Gal/Rad town/town is above rand

Theres like 5 scenarios I imagine mutual paranoia going between S/S and T/S and "how would you react to that" and "we do this all the time so is this valid?" do not strike as scum dialogue

Also Bell townlean for healthy caution in the PT

In post 1099, Taly wrote:Frogs, why is BBT likelier scum than Titus?

Luke, why did you consider Galron?

In post 1183, Taly wrote:yay people are noticing me



as supreme toucan overlord, i demand tribute be paid in toucan sam gifs.

In post 1104, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Taly is here! Hi Taly!

ooooh, give me homework bb, my wallpost days are a bit behind me,

me want conversation

In post 1105, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 1099, Taly wrote:Frogs, why is BBT likelier scum than Titus?

Luke, why did you consider Galron?

Among BBT or Dancing Puppets I'm not sure which is more likely to be a scum slot. I think the BBT slot is objectively scummy by looking at the iso, and the Dancing Puppets slot is just pinging me hard based on my own subjective experiences. Unless BBT starts posting more, there's a higher chance I'll turn around on my Dancing Puppets read, as I've done with Malcolm and Galron already. I think there's a slightly lower chance I turn around on the Dancing Puppets slot because my PoE is getting tighter.

i might have missed but i also inquired on why you townread the people on your wagon

In post 1122, Bell wrote:*Back pats T-bone*
You're wrong try again.
Also hi Taly!

lets gossip in the PT doll

i demand

nancy/titus/gamma/galron/pooky/dwlee (when you recover bb)

acknowledge me, my inertia as a replacement is weak so i want to skip this phase ASAP

BBT

, was that

frog

vote just to counter the wagon further or is there reason behind the vote?

In post 1580, Taly wrote:

taly's besties

gamma:

passive vibes, especially from that

"hello taly"

post. I get the impression their mentality towards mafia has changed from last year where we played several games as opposing alignments. I missed their thought on

Titus

head in the skim and inquire on that.

marcistar:

I don't feel much depth to their questions or the opinions they've given, IE, skimming the hydra I don't know their reads well. I also see a lack of townreads despite the volume of people they're talking to.

OTH, vibe with me bbs<3

-townreads
-energy level/WIM
-memes

galron:

Coming from someone who has hydra'd with

Galron

before, I see nothing in

Galron's

ISO that's atypical. Doesn't like to give info about townreads but I am curious about

Klick

. What townpings is the consistency with

Rad

-town and

Frogs

-scum. I feel good about doubling down on my initial T/T read of

Gal/Rad

but I'd like to hear more from them about other slots. (Does "null" equal no thoughts or net neutral?) But I don't think that's very productive approach in sorting him this early in a large playerlist.

Galron

,

Frogs

PoE was 1000 posts ago, do you think their progression matches that original post?

titus:

TI

TU

S

I

EXI

ST

<3

. i declare myself a

titus

whisperer, my read on her is law.

nancy:

isn't mercilessly beating down players with scrutiny, so +town

ALSO HI NANCY <3

dwlee:

drowned out by the playerlist as expected, me want them around when they feel good i feel confident in my ability to sort them with some tea and lemon cakes.

dunn:

Much more active than scumgames I've seen of them and is attentive to how people respond to their roles and mechanics, which was different from how they approached a scumgame like Slaughter Hour. I'm not worried with this slot off their posts thus far. I'll be honest, this isn't an in-depth read specifically because

Dunn

is more active off first glance and so my initial ping is town, me no want to vote, me move on. I think someone voted

Dunn

? If so, I'd like to hear why.

pooky

poopy:

my strategy is to just meme until the vibe is off. me have done ugly TvTs and me have been fence-sitty T/T besties with this one. i dont have a strong first-hand perspective of their scumplay but their push for content is helpful in discerning a motive.

theMAFIAbear

, what do you get out of having the thread spew a readslist?

bell:

My focus is to parse the origin of their caution towards this slot and how that progresses to see if it comes from an informed perspective. So far I got townpings but I'm still thinking.

I just realized

Toog

has only posted twice and now I'm tilting my head at the suspicion there.

I'm failing to see the issue with

Toog's

413 since it's practically standalone, there was not much time for

Toog

to follow-up with his perspective before an accident (I hope he's okay ). And as a first post, the context of claiming role information and conflating it with alignment has a town motive in gauging reactions.

johnnyfarrar:

johnny

you prompted this from me, so thoughts?
rough feels of this group is that I'm still sorting but they're either null or townlean. which is interesting as that implies scum are players i am unfamiliar with.

i also have some familiarity with

ceph/penguin/mala/enchant

but nothing to construct much insight into them as a player.

In post 6996, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 6993, T-Bone wrote:Oh I get you, in theory Bell should know cause neighbors.

No people who have actually had experience playing with Taly would know and I’m right on Taly!town.

In post 7029, Taly wrote:It's still lost on me why you scumread me though, Luke.

In post 7043, Taly wrote:Ceph I'm trying to see what about my opening posts were needless. I replaced in with 1000 posts already made. Would a post-by-post catchup had been more feasible than real time discussion?

And what did you think about the discussion on Frogs slot during your gladiate decision?