Mini 1646: Quil's Smalltown (Game over!)

[Bookitty]

Regardless, we still have to decide who I'll track from yesterday. Marquis thinks it should be Victor; BBMolla has claimed the roleblock, I think.

I'm open to suggestions.

[DeasVail]

Smfh

I bg'd reck last night and got shot. DV passed me a BP so it blocked it. It's obvious reck isn't Mafia because that was their shot. That leaves a possibility of him being Sk since my vest would pop before his but if boo didn't see him going anywhere it checks him out as town. Still shoulda investigated someone since now there's the dilemma of who I should sleep with tonight.

My vest! My beautiful vest!

UNVOTE:

Sorry Reck.

[Quilford]

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  Vote count 2.2
  
  
  Aronis (1)— Marquis
  Antihero (1)— Flubbernugget
  Flubbernugget (1)— Antihero
  
  Not Voting (8)— Aronis, Jingle, farside22, BBmolla, Bookitty, xRECKONERx, Shiidaji, DeasVail
  
  It takes 6 to lynch or no lynch.
  
  
  Deadline
  
  
  Day 2 will be 9 days long. It ends in (expired on 2015-03-11 08:52:32).
  
  
  Mod notes
  
  
  

  @mod: if the person I try to steal from dies my action still succeeds right?

  
  Yes.
  
  

  @MOD

  If I try to investigate a person who performs two actions, will I see both of their actions or just one?

  
  Both.
  

[Jingle]

Viktor Zsaaz, or whatever his name is was killed by the SK.

[Jingle]

Also, Shii is basically conftown given that DV corroborates the vest claim. The only other option would be a scumteam of me/DV/Shii, but even I don't have balls big enough to try that.

[BBmolla]

Shii they could have shot you instead of Reck if he's scum

[Jingle]

Oh. Hey, missed the Vic flip. Guess my claim was useless.

DV can be town for the moment. He's possibly the SK, but mafia giving the BP to bg and shooting it or the most likely bg target is pretty dumb, imo.

I remember boo being town, and DV being scum, so maybe SK? But if so, why ditch the vest when he could have held it and not raised suspicion? Definitely backburnered, possibly hardtownread, but I haven't decided yet. I remember thinking a big fat maybe on farside, and I don't remember thoughts on anyone else.

I need to go through and check everything that's happened since daystart. I also need to read through Vicky's ISO for clues, although I doubt there's much.

So much to do, so little time.

Also, to whoever suggested tracking the dead scum... Wow. GT roleblock is actually pretty reasonable, and even if Victor attempted the NK it doesn't give us new information. Kitty tracking someone else tonight has a higher EV, especially given that tracker utility increases as days go by. Tracking vic is a waste of time, and at worst a misdirection of the PRs.

I need to do a couple things then sleep, but I should actually read something tomorrow.

[DeasVail]

Why did you think I was scum?

And yeah, now that Molla has claimed he was roleblocked (which makes a lot of sense), I think tracking someone other than Victor is best.

[DeasVail]

Sorry everyone, but I'll have to delay working on this. Too much going on right now.

[farside22]

Jingle: please explain the town read on boo?

All I saw with boo is pushing weak case for weak reason.

Reck is not a stupid person. I don't get why he didn't use his ability night 1.

I'm going to think about what is best.

[Bookitty]

@Farside: I'm not scum. Beyond that, though, it honestly does not matter if you think that I am scum or not right now.

I have an investigative power role. I can use that role to investigate someone tonight and give us more information. I'm asking town to tell me who to target because that way it's not just dependent on my opinion. Lynching me yesterday would have been fine (Anti would have gotten my role). Lynching me tomorrow will be fine because I seriously doubt I'll live to give a third investigation anyway. But lynching me today is off the table unless you want to deprive town of the chance to track a player of their choosing tonight and hopefully get a result in the morning.

[xRECKONERx]

Reck is not a stupid person. I don't get why he didn't use his ability night 1.

because it seems bad to use an ability that early when I could sit here and tell you I didn't use it and make scum wonder

[Bookitty]

I don't understand why you were so certain you would live long enough to give your reads, Reck. Didn't you think you'd be a primary target last night? Don't you think you will be one tonight? Were you sure you would be protected?

[xRECKONERx]

No I didn't think I'd be a primary target because I'm doing fuckall

like I'm 99% sure I already explained this

[Bookitty]

Yes, but it doesn't make sense. You're an outed cop. Everyone knows you're the cop. That alone would make you a primary target, wouldn't it, even if you never posted at all?

It's further supported by the fact that you WERE the target. Only the sacrifice of a protective allowed you to live.

What's done is done, but I want to make sure you understand why you NEED to use your role tonight.

[xRECKONERx]

Yep.

It means we drew the kill, we have a lynch, Shii can eat the bodyguard tonight and I'll get an investigation from a more narrow pool

[Bookitty]

Depending on which of us Shii chooses to protect, sure. This is why I don't want Shii to say who he will protect; if scum have to guess, maybe we could both survive and give results.

You know you're not the only investigative, yes?

[Bookitty]

Okay, lining it out plainly so it's clear for everyone because I am thinking it's not.

I investigated Jingle last night. He didn't go anywhere.

Tonight I have another shot at investigating LAST NIGHT. That means we can look at someone else agreed upon by the town to see if they went anywhere. Scum can't change what already happened, so it's essentially two free looks at a single night. That's why it's important that the whole town weigh in on who is chosen for this second look.

Tomorrow I could give those results to town.

I think that Reck probably needs guidance from the town on who to target as well given his current level of engagement with the game.

One of us will surely live to tomorrow. I trust Shii and I think he knows what to do. At a minimum, though, we should make sure that there is at least one investigative result that helps town and we shouldn't allow any excuses regarding it tomorrow.

[xRECKONERx]

Good point.

Shii should definitely choose between one of us without announcing it.

I suppose there's a potential for Shii to be scum, here, but she gave me warm & fuzzies D1 IIRC.

I think we probably want to have you focus on finding the Serial Killer, with me focusing on scum, since I cannot find the SK using my investigation.

I'd like to lynch Aronis today since he could be scum AND he's impossible for us to investigate.

[xRECKONERx]

@MOD: Can the vengeful vanillaizer remove the SK's kill or mafia's factional kill?

[Bookitty]

Looking at the likely suspects:

Cleared:

Shii
DeasVail
BBMolla (I can explain this if anyone needs it)

Already investigated:

Jingle (I have a really hard time thinking that they wouldn't have sent Jingle to do the nightkill if he were scum -- I think he was suspected by NOBODY except me and I never said so.)

So we have two scum and one SK in this group:

Marquis, the Encryptor
Aronis, the Ascetic
xRECKONERx, the One-Shot Cop
Bookitty, the Archivist
farside22, the Invictus
Antihero, the Insomniac former Universal Backup **
Flubbernugget, the Vengeful Vanilliser

We will lynch one of the five people who aren't me or Reck. We know that Reck was targeted by the scum last night (I guess it could be Shii, but I am not counting on that right now) so we know he wasn't scum.

I don't want Reck using his shot on me, because I expect I'll be an early night kill and if that happens it will be sort of wasted. My role isn't one shot and, if I don't die by night three, I will either have given town enough information to win or I would be the most likely lynch anyway. If you think it's worth it, that's okay, but I think it would be kind of a waste.

I can't investigate Aronis. So my pool consists of:

Farside
Antihero
Flubbernugget
Marquis

And would be narrowed down still more if we lynched within that pool.

If Aronis is the SK or a member of scum, we can't tell regardless. Barring unprecedented contribution and helpfulness, I'm good with this lynch for today.

I don't want to lynch anyone, though, until we get our marching orders regarding the investigations tonight.

EBWOP: Can you read over my logic above, Reck and everyone, and tell me what you think? If I've made any really stupid errors, please point them out to me. I would really appreciate it.

[xRECKONERx]

I wouldn't be so quick to clear Shii from a purely logical standpoint, although it'd be weird for scum to whif a kill just to make that kind of play. Shii is a tricksy little hobbit though, and coming up with a way to clear herself while getting a bulletproof vest could be a really big play -- it's just a long shot.

I think we lynch Aronis, then you and I investigate within farside/Antihero/Flubber/Marquis. My gut is saying I should investigate Antihero.

[Bookitty]

Okay. I will investigate someone else in that group then.

I want to wait to see what everyone wants; I'm committed to tracking the person of their choice for last night. (My track will be for Night One, not Night Two.)

I'm confident that Shii is town myself.

[xRECKONERx]

I mean, the problem with spelling out exactly what we're doing is it tells scum who they HAVE to kill.

[Marquis]

what the fuck i'm town as shit that's a fucking waste no