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In post 724, Cabd wrote:

In post 722, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 701, unwnd wrote:That's just how games are now Toog

Geriatric style would be nice but mod doesn't agree so I'm gonna keep it rolling

What is geriatric style? I feel I should be the designated trendsetter for this.

Geriatric_Ruleset

I like it!

In other news I'm content townreading Toogeloo, I see nothing that concerns me.

In post 723, Cabd wrote:Cool, we can apply a "bucket" tag and move on, then.

It's actually food tell time.

Potato lemon logs and burgers!

I'm having Mac and Cheese with ketchup on it.

I'm struggling with this manatee claim the more I look at it.

The initial claim is that it kills a random townie if it's not on the Lim wagon.

Then it's clarified that it kills the person it's on if they aren't the Lim wagon.

Then it's further clarified that it's once again a random player if the vote isn't placed at all.

I feel like that is a lot of edits for one, but I'm really struggling with the random aspect of it. Is it random townie, or can scum be in the pool? Does this seem like a role that should have an actual random modifier to it? Does this seem like a role that would be more than 1-shot in a 13 player game?

I think I'm still at L-2, so why hasn't there been any discussion on where to direct this shot considering how hard LLD has been pushing to have me ran through?

I'm surprised at how little discussion has been had on this, and if the role exists it seems like a role very susceptible to scum influence.

In post 727, Toogeloo wrote:I'm surprised at how little discussion has been had on this, and if the role exists it seems like a role very susceptible to scum influence.

Scum influence and not actually belonging to scum?

It feels like you spent most of the post saying Manatee was scummy and then pivoted into this

I am also at "claim or die"

In post 728, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 727, Toogeloo wrote:I'm surprised at how little discussion has been had on this, and if the role exists it seems like a role very susceptible to scum influence.

Scum influence and not actually belonging to scum?

It feels like you spent most of the post saying Manatee was scummy and then pivoted into this

Wow, your reading comprehension is garbage.

I don't think it is, actually.

In post 730, Toogeloo wrote:

In post 728, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 727, Toogeloo wrote:I'm surprised at how little discussion has been had on this, and if the role exists it seems like a role very susceptible to scum influence.

Scum influence and not actually belonging to scum?

It feels like you spent most of the post saying Manatee was scummy and then pivoted into this

Wow, your reading comprehension is garbage.

I'd like to point out that saying this, but not clarifying in what way Dunnstral has misinterpreted you, is scummy.

Then on your reread of the post, you'll notice I talked almost exclusively about the role and the lack of discussion surrounding it's mechanics as we approach end of day.

BTW, I don't know why you have this giant mancrush on me spanning multiple games, but I'm married.

Obviously, LLD beat me to the response.

In post 733, Toogeloo wrote:BTW, I don't know why you have this giant mancrush on me spanning multiple games, but I'm married.

I don't really feel reset so this may be short. notsci is definitely not reset so I doubt he'll be around before tomorrow.

In post 718, Cabd wrote:

In post 717, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:That's a lot to read into a maybe, Cabd.

I've only had this read for five minutes.

But if anything ever happened to her, I'd kill everyone in this room, and then myself.

painbringer?

We've rushed some stuff I would rather have taken more sedately because it's felt like this could be a short gameday. it comes down to role and reads. plural.

I'll check back in an hour or so.

In post 659, GuyInFreezer wrote:But as I said, I want to keep this as just tinfoil theory.

I'm not sure 3rd party manatee on her own would come up with the only harms town branch of that tree, fwiw.

In post 736, Kate Bishop wrote:painbringer

Only transitively, much MUCH more white.

in a grammar or mathematical sense. either probably works.

I'm not going to directly address stuff you've masonized. So if you have questions go ahead and ask.

Yes.

And no reply is expected given you'd have to cross the no touchie picket line and you're not a scab, are you?

In post 693, unwnd wrote:I agree with you but I don't think Kate specifically is weird for having me at null

I know ffery has a hard time getting over things, and I imagine Fortress still is relevant in her mind

Not so much getting over things as giving room for my read to form without pressure and yours to form however it forms.

I townread you in and tried to work with you over what seemed like weeks. There was no mind-meeting, and your read eventually acidified mine and it degraded badly. And I was stuck with not enough scumreads and not enough stuff making sense. I had no conviction you were flipping scum and the essential lack of agency in the role was also acidic. Bell had too many scum reads, but I think that was a more comfortable and familiar place for him to play from.

My hedge against a similar spiral is to not get invested early.

In post 740, Cabd wrote:Yes.

And no reply is expected given you'd have to cross the no touchie picket line and you're not a scab, are you?

If you have to ask, then maybe we don't need to talk.

The unseen sarcasm tags are the deadliest.

In post 743, Cabd wrote:The unseen sarcasm tags are the deadliest.

I rushed. And I'd probably do it again in a similar situation, but here we are.

In post 709, GuyInFreezer wrote:

In post 707, marcistar wrote:ohh ahh i originally thought u were looking out so u could try to please whoever scumread u, but ill keep this in mind.

Just curious but which posts of his made you think that way?

In post 513, Toogeloo wrote:Honestly, I didn't pay attention to any cases on anyone else. The Votals look like vanity wagons on anyone not named Toog.

I mostly just been skimming through the day though and mostly just trying to focus on responding to people aiming things at me.

this post was what brought the thought to my head, its prob just a dumb thought tho.

In post 727, Toogeloo wrote:I'm struggling with this manatee claim the more I look at it.

The initial claim is that it kills a random townie if it's not on the Lim wagon.

Then it's clarified that it kills the person it's on if they aren't the Lim wagon.

Then it's further clarified that it's once again a random player if the vote isn't placed at all.

That bugged me too.

DGB is notsci's favorite poster this game.

So take me with a grain of salt. I feel like DGB and Toog might not be aligned. DGB's posts about him feels kinda performative to me.

I've been reading some recent toog scumgames today and 2 of the 3 I found are not normal-ish mechanics so maybe they're not that relevant. In one of the mystery box of silver potions games he initially focused on 3rd party hunting and floated the idea there might not be traditional antitown roles.

It's not quite the same thing as his focus on manatee's role, but it feels similar to me anyway.

I'm not finished reading/thinking, but DGB's recent posts started a thought chain.

Later.

I don't know why people are bothered about Manatee's role still.
All we have to do is to use her role to get a double day elimination and if she doesn't comply we yeet her.
It is that simple.

In post 748, GuyInFreezer wrote:I don't know why people are bothered about Manatee's role still.
All we have to do is to use her role to get a double day elimination and if she doesn't comply we yeet her.
It is that simple.

The bother could be ai. I glossed over some ai bother regarding my role in the bloodstained game, and I shouldn't have. the players who stood out in their reactions were scum.