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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:07 am
by NorwegianboyEE
If it had gone to L-1 I would have unvoted
Why would you put your vote on him at all if this is the case?

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:09 am
by Chemist1422
In post 75, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
If it had gone to L-1 I would have unvoted
Why would you put your vote on him at all if this is the case?
There was no specific reason

It was never a vote to lynch

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:11 am
by NorwegianboyEE
?? Then what was it?
Please explain.

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:13 am
by Chemist1422
In post 77, NorwegianboyEE wrote:?? Then what was it?
Please explain.
It was an RVS vote

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:19 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 78, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 77, NorwegianboyEE wrote:?? Then what was it?
Please explain.
It was an RVS vote
You might claim your vote was meaningless, but that's not the way i saw it. In my mind you were trying to achieve a lynch with little to no discussion, then when the people reacted to your push and retracted their own votes you changed your story.

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:26 am
by Chemist1422
In post 79, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 78, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 77, NorwegianboyEE wrote:?? Then what was it?
Please explain.
It was an RVS vote
You might claim your vote was meaningless, but that's not the way i saw it. In my mind you were trying to achieve a lynch with little to no discussion, then when the people reacted to your push and retracted their own votes you changed your story.
But that’s not true

You have this assumption locked in your head when it’s actually not what happened, and you have no proof for it

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:31 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Either way i see nobody else that is suspicious right now.
I'll chime back in if someone else posts anything that makes me change my mind.

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:50 am
by Plotinus
Official Vote Count 1.03


Wallaby joey




LynchingWith 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Chemist1422
(3): Micc, skitter30, NorwegianboyEE
Mr Oobsy
(1): Leucosticte
Jamelia
(1): Dyrenz
Leucosticte
(1): Chemist1422
NorwegianboyEE
(1): Farren

Not Voting
(2): Mr Oobsy, Jamelia

Deadline:
(expired on 2019-09-04 23:00:00).


Mod notes:
NorwegianBoyEE is the new mmiscrazy12.[/area]

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:00 am
by Farren
In post 74, Chemist1422 wrote:I have not no

And I still don’t see how that’s what you got from it? If it had gone to L-1 I would have unvoted
How do you know that you would have been able to unvote in between L-1 and the hammer?

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:03 am
by Mr Oobsy
Yesterday this thread was empty. Today it's 4 pages long and someone's already accused me of being too quiet. HA.

Anyway, I am a
Vanilla Townie
, and I've been keeping track of votes and less formal accusations. I've not been able to meaningfully separate the other players into teams of 6 and 2 based on this evidence. However, I have concluded the following:

If
Farren
is
Mafia
,
skitter30
and
NorwegianBoyEE
are both
Town
.

But if either
skitter30
or
NorwegianBoyEE
are
Mafia
,
Farren
is
Town
.

My reasoning for this is the fact that votes alone, as well as accusations alone, both independently suggest it. I hope to be vindicated by future developments.

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:12 am
by Farren
Mr Oobsy: any comparisons between Micc, Skitter, Chemist, and Leucosticte?

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:29 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 84, Mr Oobsy wrote: If
Farren
is
Mafia
,
skitter30
and
NorwegianBoyEE
are both
Town
.

But if either
skitter30
or
NorwegianBoyEE
are
Mafia
,
Farren
is
Town
.

My reasoning for this is the fact that votes alone, as well as accusations alone, both independently suggest it.
If it's not too much work for you. Can you go into more detail as to why you came to these conclusions? I'm not sure i follow the logic behind it.

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:44 am
by Mr Oobsy
Regarding my thoughts on those 4 people
Farren
listed, all I am confident adding at this point is that I strongly believe
Leucosticte
to be
Town
. His wordy posts sound quite sincere, as opposed to rambling. If it were all an act, something would have stuck out by now.

Regarding how I came to the conclusion in my previous post, I simply separated players into 2 teams based on whether one voted against the other. I also did this based on informal accusations. The teams indicated by votes contradicted those indicated by mere accusations. But the aspects where they did both agree, is what I based my conclusion on. It felt like taking the intersection of a Venn diagram, you know? Well technically, more like taking the overlapping portion of a pair of circles.

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:50 am
by Mr Oobsy
I want
Dyrenz
to address the fact he used his first post to unironically vote
Jamelia
for being quiet.

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:54 am
by NorwegianboyEE
You're one of the few people not voting yet Mr Oobsy. Who do you find the most suspicious so far?

Also, the mafia games i've played usually last 72 hours. I've never played a mafia game which lasts a whooping 10 day-hours before deadline. Is it normal for each day to last that long before the town decides who to lynch?

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:57 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Also, the mafia games i've played usually last 72 hours.
The days usually last 72 hours in the mafia games i've played.

Also i just learnt that this forum doesn't have a way to isolate each user's posts. Sad... (;へ:)

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:02 am
by Mr Oobsy
I want to wait for
Dyrenz
' response before I actually call someone suspicious. In the meantime I am happy to wait 10 IRL days to gather as much information as possible.

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:05 am
by Dyrenz
Lazy entrance I know (>-_-)>

Didn't want to add to the Chemist train so early despite getting a scum vibe from him. L-1 can be dangerous this early on if someone just hammers on a whim. Not really used to how to open in RVS, also not sure I even like RVS, but I threw down a vote for the sheer sake of doing so.

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:06 am
by Dyrenz
Also
UNVOTE:

Because it seems pointless atm

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:08 am
by Jamelia
So I read through everything and tried analyzing as much as possible. My brain actually hurts from trying to form opinion's of scuminess so, yeah. LOL

I agree with the opinion that Leucostictie is pretty neutral, but I wouldn't agree that he is auto-town or whatever. I appreciate the indepth analysis but I found at times the wording of how townspeople should act to be almost a: "I think this is the way Town in this game should play!" versus "I am town, but I wouldn't be surprised if other Town played this way".

I personally don't blame anyone for voting for someone based on inactivity, including Dyrenz' back on Page 2. He hasn't been on since I've started talking and stuff. I think that voting for someone based on inactivity when I personally haven't seen any overt scuminess makes sense?

That's all I really have right now. This is fun! LOL

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:11 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Damn, i'm going to grow old by the time day 1 is finished.
Nah just kidding.
@Dyrenz If someone hammers on a whim and the person lynched flips town then the person that hammered will obviously be seen as very suspicious. So i don't think we need to worry about a mafia doing this. I would be more worried that a clueless townie accidentally hammered too early or something.

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:12 am
by Farren
In post 90, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Also, the mafia games i've played usually last 72 hours.
The days usually last 72 hours in the mafia games i've played.

Also i just learnt that this forum doesn't have a way to isolate each user's posts. Sad... (;へ:)
If you look just to the right of the post number, there's an ISO link for the poster.

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:14 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Oh, there is. Thanks Farren, i found it now.

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:26 am
by Chemist1422
In post 83, Farren wrote:
In post 74, Chemist1422 wrote:I have not no

And I still don’t see how that’s what you got from it? If it had gone to L-1 I would have unvoted
How do you know that you would have been able to unvote in between L-1 and the hammer?
I don’t, but that’s less of my issue and more of the hammerer’s

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:40 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Not really. I don’t think we should put any voters away from the equation just because they didn’t hammer.