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Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 3:13 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 74, Raya36 wrote:I highly doubt scum placed all 3 members in group 1
That's exactly what they should do though.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 3:13 am
by Raya36
In post 73, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Scum would just put all 3 in group 1 knowing that nobody will self-lynch, and then sweep the game from there.
This is the type of game where it could be beneficial to self-lynch so idk if that's fully true? I'd be more than happy to lynch my group if I think 2+ scum is in it.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 3:50 am
by Mohab500
Yeah, voting yourself shouldn't really be much of a problem here, no?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 5:33 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 51, dsjstr wrote:Group 1 has a majority of votes so they basically decide which group will get lynched
Everyone's votes are worth the same
In post 51, dsjstr wrote:They get a shot at winning even if there is no member in group 1, if they were hoping that we would lynch group 1 why would they hang one of their men?
If the scum chose 1/1/1 with the intent of lynching group 1 for the win today, I think putting one scum in group 1 to "sandbag" that group and make that group seem scummier would be the best way to do it.

Scumvibes from dsjstasefsfr's entrance, primarily from though I'm having a hard time formulating it into words

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 5:37 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 62, enomis wrote:
In post 59, Mohab500 wrote:VOTE: group 3
You are voting your own group?
What's wrong with that?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 5:44 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
VOTE: 3

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 5:50 am
by Hoctac
> We shouldn't lynch group 1. Too risky.
> That's
exactly
why scum would just put all 3 in group 1; we should lynch it.
> What if they knew we would think that and we just lose by lynching it??
> It's fine. If there's 2 or 3 scum in there, it's a positive result.
> It's not even that good if there's 2 scum in here. We enter MyLo the next day.
> They're counting on our paranoi, see? We should definitely lynch it.
> What if it's a 1/1/1 split though? We insta-lose then!
> A 1/1/1 split makes no sense for EV purposes, it's either 0, 2, or 3 in group 1. Therefore, we lynch it.
> But the fact you think that is exactly why they do a 1/1/1 split and then we lose by lynching group 1.
> They anticipated you would be afraid and used the airpeed velocity of an unladen swallow...

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Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 5:50 am
by enomis
In post 77, Mohab500 wrote:Yeah, voting yourself shouldn't really be much of a problem here, no?
Do you not want to play the game beyond day 1?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 5:52 am
by enomis
In post 79, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 62, enomis wrote:
In post 59, Mohab500 wrote:VOTE: group 3
You are voting your own group?
What's wrong with that?
I want to be here on day 2.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 5:53 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
Shouldn't you be more concerned with lynching scum than being alive on day 2

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:01 am
by Hoctac
Everyone in group 3 has been sus so far. It's pretty impressive.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:01 am
by dsjstr
In post 62, enomis wrote:
In post 59, Mohab500 wrote:VOTE: group 3
You are voting your own group?
I was also thinking of voting for group 3 tbh

Group 1 is too risky and if there is 1 member in group 2 then even without reads it would be a 50/50 we get them the next day.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:04 am
by Hoctac
I don't get it, Doro. If there's 1 member in group 2 and we lynch it, there'll be 2 alive tomorrow.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:05 am
by Hoctac
@enomis and @mohab: Do you have the tendency to be lynchbait in other games? Be honest.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:08 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
I actually lean town on Mohab. What are you seeing there?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:09 am
by enomis
In post 84, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Shouldn't you be more concerned with lynching scum than being alive on day 2
I have no other play. I can't lynch group 1. I don't want to lynch myself. So I can only find from group 2. Quite demotivated tbh. This isn't what i expected when i came into this game.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:10 am
by Hoctac
You absolutely can lynch group 1 if you find enough people from there acting scummy. Why are you ruling the play out completely?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:10 am
by enomis
In post 88, Hoctac wrote:@enomis and @mohab: Do you have the tendency to be lynchbait in other games? Be honest.
This is addressed to me? How am I being lynchbait this game?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:11 am
by enomis
In post 91, Hoctac wrote:You absolutely can lynch group 1 if you find enough people from there acting scummy. Why are you ruling the play out completely?
based on what people have posted.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:13 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 90, enomis wrote:
In post 84, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Shouldn't you be more concerned with lynching scum than being alive on day 2
I have no other play. I can't lynch group 1. I don't want to lynch myself. So I can only find from group 2. Quite demotivated tbh. This isn't what i expected when i came into this game.
If you thought Mohab or dsjstr were scummy, would you want to lynch your group then? I don't get your insistence on not wanting to lynch yourself.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:14 am
by Hoctac
Mohab entered saying we shouldn't talk about partitions because what's the point, but then discusses them anyway and emphasises how there can definitely be 3 scum in group 1.

He says it's too "risky" to lynch in group 1 and talks about how we shouldn't do it just because, unless we find "at least 1 scum in there worth lynching" - which is a very easy thing to do in 8 players. He's setting himself up later to vote group 1 while being reasonable and fair about it early.

Also, the self-vote is weird.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:16 am
by Hoctac
In post 92, enomis wrote:
In post 88, Hoctac wrote:@enomis and @mohab: Do you have the tendency to be lynchbait in other games? Be honest.
This is addressed to me? How am I being lynchbait this game?
I'm not saying you are. I'm just wondering if you are in other games. There's incentive for scum to dump 3 lynchbaits into the same group.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:16 am
by dsjstr
In post 87, Hoctac wrote:I don't get it, Doro. If there's 1 member in group 2 and we lynch it, there'll be 2 alive tomorrow.
If they went 1-1-1 which would just be a mistake for the mafia then there would be 2 members alive D2 no matter which group we choose. Since there are only two members in group 2 that leaves two suspects to choose from. The fact that no one else

sees going 1-1-1 as a bad move makes me think the mafia would have gone for it.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:18 am
by Hoctac
Fair point, but see , Doro.

You find anyone scummy so far? I'm pretty sure clidd and Ame are conspiring in the other corner.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 6:20 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 95, Hoctac wrote:Mohab entered saying we shouldn't talk about partitions because what's the point, but then discusses them anyway and emphasises how there can definitely be 3 scum in group 1.
True but there wasn't a whole lot else going on in thread tbf
He says it's too "risky" to lynch in group 1 and talks about how we shouldn't do it just because, unless we find "at least 1 scum in there worth lynching" - which is a very easy thing to do in 8 players. He's setting himself up later to vote group 1 while being reasonable and fair about it early.

Also, the self-vote is weird.
I see. I liked how he was thinking about how to play the setup, which seemed natural. and he did end up saying to not lynch group 1 today