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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:52 am
by Blair~
I guess we will see if Childs is the same

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:54 am
by Blair~
also I am just going to claim that I am a one shot mailman who sent the message to MacReady to conftown myself for now.


My thought process was that I wanted to know if he had been assimilated because it'd be dangerous for the town if a strong town leader like him had been assimilated.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:57 am
by Palmer~
In post 751, Blair~ wrote:also I am just going to claim that I am a one shot mailman who sent the message to MacReady to conftown myself for now.


My thought process was that I wanted to know if he had been assimilated because it'd be dangerous for the town if a strong town leader like him had been assimilated.
Does this also conftown MacReady? That is, if MacReady had been assimilated, they wouldn't know their slot got mail?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:58 am
by MacReady~
Well, assuming you didn't get assimilated after the fact, but yes

Pedit I don't know, I didn't think about it that way. I don't think so though- I just received a message, I don't see why an assimilated Thing couldn't receive it

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:59 am
by Palmer~
In post 753, MacReady~ wrote:assuming you didn't get assimilated after the fact
Speaking of which... where's the diary entry?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:01 am
by Blair~
In post 753, MacReady~ wrote:Well, assuming you didn't get assimilated after the fact, but yes

Pedit I don't know, I didn't think about it that way. I don't think so though- I just received a message, I don't see why an assimilated Thing couldn't receive it

If i was assimilated and a thing i wouldnt know about you getting the message

if you were assimilated on night one, you wouldn't get the message

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:02 am
by Blair~
In post 752, Palmer~ wrote:
In post 751, Blair~ wrote:also I am just going to claim that I am a one shot mailman who sent the message to MacReady to conftown myself for now.


My thought process was that I wanted to know if he had been assimilated because it'd be dangerous for the town if a strong town leader like him had been assimilated.
Does this also conftown MacReady? That is, if MacReady had been assimilated, they wouldn't know their slot got mail?
no it just means MacReady didn't get assimilated on night one, he could still originally be a thing though I kind of townread him for being so leadery on killing Clark.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:03 am
by Blair~
In post 754, Palmer~ wrote:
In post 753, MacReady~ wrote:assuming you didn't get assimilated after the fact
Speaking of which... where's the diary entry?
I'll do it when I get home. Phoneposting isn't great for writing things.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:06 am
by MacReady~
Doesn't assimilation happen after action though?

Original you could have sent the message
Gotten assimilated
Assimilated-you sees what actions original you had taken
And thus known original you sent the message

Like once you have access to the account you can see everything the slot did previously, no?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:10 am
by Blair~
I don't think that's how assimilation works but you can always check with the mod to be extra sure

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:12 am
by MacReady~
In post 2, petapan wrote:If that Thing successfully carries out the nightkill on its intended target, it will "assimilate" the alternate account of the killed player and gain control of it. The Thing will lose control of its original account, and it will flip as having died during the night phase instead.
If you got assimilated overnight
The Thing would have access to your account
So I would assume be able to see what actions you took, etc

Maybe I'm fundementally misunderstanding but this is how I think assimilation works

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:15 am
by Blair~
I don't think it would make sense for assimilation to gain access to things like role pm and night action choices because that would be totally busted imo but we shall see? Just ask the mod.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:16 am
by Blair~
I know that if you had been assimilated you wouldn't have access to the message I sent you so it feels like it doesn't make sense if I have been assimilated that the thing that ate me would have access to the message I sent you.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:39 am
by petapan
Assimilation does not grant a thing access to the previous player's role information or night actions. Any private messages sent to or from the previous occupant would be wiped.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:51 am
by MacReady~
Huh
Ok then yeah, from my POV you can't have been assimilated, and from your POV I couldn't have

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:01 am
by Fuchs~
In post 764, MacReady~ wrote:Huh
Ok then yeah, from my POV you can't have been assimilated, and from your POV I couldn't have
More then that, Blair is confirmed town from your PoV, because scum cannot have any PRs.

Blair is nearly an IC at this point, as the only world where Blair is scum toDay is exactly a Blair+MacReady scum team.

Macready is confirmed "Not Assimilated" but not confirmed town.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:02 am
by Fuchs~
Crazy how strong this set up made a Mailman role

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:05 am
by Nauls~
Nerf mailman... :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:05 am
by MacReady~
Yeah, that was a given in my mind
The question was more if they could have been assimilated after

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:31 am
by Fuchs~
In post 671, Blair~ wrote:if I don't write a super cool diary entry tomorrow plz kill me
Blair, I know that you are confirmed town for the day, but if you being confirmed town means I dont get a super cool diary entry, then I will be sad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:05 am
by Norris~
I was just ahead of my time...

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:34 am
by Garry~
In post 723, Palmer~ wrote:I'm a 1-shot Cop, and I have a guilty.

VOTE: Windows

For anyone wondering, that is partly why I was playing kind of quietly on Day 1. I didn't wanna risk being widely townread and getting assimilated.
Sure.
VOTE: Windows
I'm trusting you.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:12 am
by Windows~
In post 748, Blair~ wrote:faking a guilty is one of those things i would love to do in this game because you can always abandon your slot after the fact. I also felt kind of susp of Palmer on day one to begin with - I think there is a good chance the convo between Palmer and Clark at beginning of day was badly done scum theatre
I hope Childs is town because Palmer needs shooting after I flip town.
For those who aren't me (I know I'm town) is it likely town cop investigates someone who is under suspicion from D1 and therefore a reasonable possibility of assimilating away? Compared with getting an inno on someone more likely to still be themselves today?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:20 am
by Fuchs~
On one hand, day 1 I town read windows and scum read palmer.

On the other hand, this seems like a really dumb play for scum palmer to make unless we are saying the scum team was exactly Lars+Palmer, and Lars scum was confident in their ability to impersonate Childs.

But even then, Windows does not feel like the go to target to fake a guilty on given how scum read he was Day 1.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:21 am
by Windows~
I'm VT by the way. Sorry Palmer if you were trying to fish for another town PR with this gambit.