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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:54 am
by Iecerint
Chamber, could you link me a game with unlynchable scum? Does such a game even exist?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:16 am
by Iecerint
Chamber (or whichever of you) --

Did you guys come up with that list D1 or D2?
How sure are/were you that all the starter scum were on that list? (In other words, do you think there were only 2 starter scum?)
If you're no longer certain about your list's accuracy, could you share the basis by which any non-masons were removed from it?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:16 am
by Iecerint
EBWOP: To clarify, I'm requesting the logical basis by which non-masons were removed. I am obviously not requesting hypothetical PR-related information.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:43 am
by Iecerint
EBWOPx2: Actually, I suppose PR-related information would be fine, since who determined the information is largely independent of who gives it given the degree of masonry. Use your judgment, etc.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:03 am
by chamber
Strength would be something like you(90%) ssk(80%) pod(70%) bogre(30%) bogre was only off the initial list as I was presenting targets for the day vig(ssk), I have no real reason to believe he couldn't have been starting scum. pod and you are cleared for your intereaction with each other, this is a much stronger clear of yourself then it is of him. ssk is a day killer, could easily be an sk but I highly doubt hes mafia, and didn't one of the rules say only 2 factions? he was mostly off it just because hes a day killer(and you know, the list was directed at him). Those percent estimates are mine alone, didn't run this by the other masons.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:10 am
by Iecerint
Err. Pod is Primate? Is an alt?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:12 am
by chamber
Iecerint wrote:Err. Pod is Primate? Is an alt?
pod is primate, different forum. Sorry.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:27 pm
by Iecerint
OK. So you didn't make the list until D2, but the tells were all based on D1 events. I'm assuming the Primate-Iec interaction was when it seemed like he was trying to modkill me but then said he would PM the mod if that were his goal?

Prod Primate

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:59 pm
by chamber
Iecerint wrote:OK. So you didn't make the list until D2, but the tells were all based on D1 events. I'm assuming the Primate-Iec interaction was when it seemed like he was trying to modkill me but then said he would PM the mod if that were his goal?

Prod Primate
The list I presented was made day2 I guess, but we had talked about all the tells during day1 and had already eliminated all the people I did in the end, it just hadn't been put forward as a list yet.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:01 pm
by Iecerint
Ya. Was just trying to incorporate Bogre being off of it.

Thread needs more posts from SSK and Primate. Tajo, too, maybe.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:08 pm
by Bogre
And everyone, really.

It's like a two person talk show atm.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:35 pm
by populartajo
Wow owned with Pome.

So, what is the situation now? SSK kills someone, right?

Iecerint, can you shoot again? Did you know about this?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:43 pm
by Iecerint
I have another shot. I am not certain whether I can use it today; I am waiting for mod-confirmation. Either way, SSK should probably shoot next since his shot recurs each day. I had not been aware that I would have a second shot. My guess is that I got the second shot for killing scum, but that's just speculation on my part.

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:46 am
by MafiaSSK
Seeing as we still haven't gotten a replacement for Drench, I am planning on killing him. This alright?

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:18 am
by chamber
MafiaSSK wrote:Seeing as we still haven't gotten a replacement for Drench, I am planning on killing him. This alright?
please reread the last several pages. Not only was he replaced but his replacement was already killed.

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:44 am
by Iecerint
MafiaSSK wrote:2. Pom hasn't convinced me she's town. Stilll a likely kill target.
You've referred to Pome in-thread before. Where did you think she came from? :roll:

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:46 pm
by populartajo
Massprod please.


Still thinking the four masons are still town. SSK is also town. Anyone disagrees with this?

How many scum we have dead? 3 with boxman right?

Pom being a traitor makes me think there is prob one more scum left. One of Iec, Pod and bogre. Thinking bogre her. Claim again?

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:59 pm
by Iecerint
I am not certain that all the masons are town, but I think that at most one is scum. There is only one eventuality where SSK may not be town, but that will have become clear D4.

Assuming that SSK and masons are town, Primate and Bogre are the default possibilities.

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:03 pm
by Iecerint
Tajo, do you think that Pome's traitor status was cult recruit flavor or the traditional traitor role?

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:21 pm
by populartajo
Traditional traitor role.

What makes yoiu think it is cult recruit flavor?

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:28 pm
by Iecerint
1. Scumteam + traitor + recruits is a big number.
2. Traitor flavor fits with ex-town persons.

Megamasonry potentially helps explain #1.

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:20 pm
by populartajo
Interesting points.

What did Boghre claim?

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:28 pm
by Bogre
I'm unkillable.

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:13 am
by Iecerint
We know he's unDKable because Cobalt shot him D1.

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:37 am
by Iecerint
My plan for today --

1. Shoot Primate.
- If scum, lynch BoxMan
else
2. Shoot tajo.
3. Lynch BoxMan.
(Could change a little if I get bonus shots from shooting Primate or Tajo.)

I don't like that DeathNote and Ortolan are lurking through this, though. Could be that one of them wants tajo to take the shot given his attitude toward Drench.