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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:59 am

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yup, u hammered. if shanba's not scum then town loses.
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:28 am

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I'm freaking serious about the twilight posting. Stop it. Just because I'm not here doesn't mean you can post away!!

d3sisted wrote:This actually brings up an interesting point.
Mod, what is the win condition for traitor and scum?
If there are two scum aligned players left against one town aligned player in the morning the game will end, regardless of the set up (2 assassins, 1 assassin and 1 traitor).

To business...

It is day 5.

5 players remain: Sarcastro, Setael, Shanba, d3sisted, soupfly.

3 votes are needed for any action.

3 votes for Shanba (soupfly, Setael, Sarcastro)
1 vote for Sarcastro (Shanba)

1 player did not vote: d3sisted.

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Many days have passed, and ideas have been spewed for scenes blah blah blah. And I have run out of ideas.

So I guess you all called Scorpius on the intercom and told him it was time for Shanba to die. So he came, and he took Shanba away, and Shanba died a horrible death. By flaying, or some such monstrosity. Lots of blood. But Scorpius is upset - because Shanba was yet another
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It is Night. PM me! Deadline set for Friday @ 22:00 GMT.
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:49 am

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The nights were quiet now. Quieter than you could ever remember. The only regular sounds to be heard were the low hum of the space station's engine and, should you dare to go near him, the constant pacing of Scorpius in his quarters. The crew numbers had dwindled constantly - clearly you were running out of time and the Scarrans were gaining the upper hand.

As you made your way from the mess hall to your quarters, you heard footsteps following you. You turned and found d3sisted right behind you. He was fervent with paranoia, and babbling about powers of vision and an inane ability to see things others couldn't. You chalked it up to the nightly fear of being the next victim and attempted to calm him down. As he slowly wilted into a restless sleep in the middle of the corridor, you suddenly realised there was another presence you hadn't heard approach.

It was Sarcastro. And he had someone cowering behind him in the dark. You could just about make out the features of a Stark prisoner - this one was called Setael. As you stood to face Sarcastro and ask him just why he had a prisoner loose in his presence, he struck with lightning speed and cut the head off d3sisted. His head simply rolled to the side, resting on one cheek with the nose on the floor, the sweat beads still visible on his forehead.

Before you could react, Setael bounded forward and clunked you on the head. The last thing you felt was a searing heat coming towards you...

Well done, Scum. You win!

OK, I only went to night because there was always the chance that the Assassin could kill his traitor (even with the d3sisted claim) but Sarcastro has chosen a different victim, so I called the game.


Full Role List:

Sarcastro - Assassin
AlyG - Assassin
Setael - Stark

D3sisted - Aurora Operator
Yagami - Delvian Pa'u
Everyone Else - Grunts

Hope you enjoyed the game! (Er... do all mods usually tell everyone what each of the night actions were in a collective post?? Do you want me to do that??)
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:55 am

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Soupfly, you are a complete fucking idiot.
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:57 am

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Soupfly, I don't really know what you were doing but don't EVER vote first in a LYLO situation when you're town. You allowed the scum to just pile on. At least discuss the shit and think about the evidence instead of basing your entire case on metaing Shanba who came into the game this very day.
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:14 am

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I have to say, I'm shocked we won. Especially after the town took out ALyG on D1. When I added my vote to d3sisted's, I was obviously hoping Sarcastro would get online and vote before anyone else saw that I'd put Shanba at -1. I thought it was pretty obvious I was the traitor and was shocked when soupfly voted Shanba. I then didn't want to vote until Sarcastro voted, since it was the obvious move for him, but would make me look really scummy. When Sarcastro seemed to be stalling, I decided to just vote and see what would happen. I thought there was a good chance soupfly would unvote and yell "Gotcha!"

So anyway, yeah... shocked we won.

Don't be too hard on soupfly. I made that exact mistake in my first newbie game. I give a lot of credit to Rhapsody. Played well enough to not get investigated, which would have been game over.
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:17 am

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First, I'm sorry for flaking out on this game. Basically, I couldn't keep up with the pace. I really can put a lot of effort into my games 2-3 days out of the week. I found myself falling behind and playing catchup week after week and it got to be a real stressful strain on me.

Thanks Sarc, for the replacement. You killed everyone I would've killed in the same order. :)

Another thing I need to address is Ether's replacement. Ether did not flake on this game at all, and fully intended on seeing it all the way through. She was unable to because of some stupidity on my part. Not knowing that she knew who Rhapsody was, I asked her a question about this game with my alt which may have affected her opinion towards the game. This was a terrible mistake that I will never repeat again and am deeply embarrassed about. I will not be playing any this or any other alt in the future. It was an experiment that went wrong in several ways, but this particular issue was the worst of it.

I'll post some game thoughts in another post.
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:29 am

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As far as the game...

I bussed AlyG day 1. Completely. There's not really a nice way to say this, but basically, I saw his play and decided that I'd be better off without him in the way possibly screwing things up. No offense, AlyG, but I play to win.

The funniest part of this game is that I thought that Ether was my traitor. My case on her was completely genuine in that I thought she was scum for all the reasons I said. But the only reason I made the case was for distancing purposes. Otherwise, I probably would've left her alone. With soupfly and eldarad both tying us together, I felt it was important to go after her full force in order to break that tie. What's even funnier is that Ether's defense post to my attack contained the words 'Shut up.' And a mention that she might be lynched. So I thought it was a signal from her to back off, and I did.

I never once thought Setael was my traitor. She had me completely snowed.

I think this was a tough game for scum to win with two roles able to confirm innocents. I'd almost complain about the balance, but scum won so I can't. :D
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:42 am

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fine, lay all the blame on me. i'll take it.

i did my best. only thing i was wrong on was ether/shanba. i got it in my head that she was scum and couldn't let go. aside from that i was right on most other things...including eldarad, setael. if not for the claim i'd have lynched setael for sure. unfortunately i chose wrong on shanba vs. sarcastro. i should have known...in a way i did but i went with logic instead of my gut...damn it.
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:44 am

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Setael: I'm not attacking him for the speed of the vote (meh, unoptimal, but whatever; it's not like I minded when he voted
you
off the bat), I'm attacking him for the quality.

I mean...
you tried to speedlynch me.
Furthermore, it was obvious from the that no one still alive could have been my traitor except possibly D3sisted (and no one seemed to doubt D3sisted). That Caffhate was supposed to be
good
for something. Soupfly turned his back on every value as his OMGUS suited him: remember his early attack on me for metagaming, his attitude toward Thin_Man's vote? Have you
read
the cases he made against me across the game? I am so pissed off right now.

Eldarad made me promise I wouldn't brag about my sterling end-of-day voting record. Image

I don't like secret alts. I know there's been a trend toward them, and that saddens me on many, many levels. They shut out social aspects of the community, and I tend to think metagaming is just part of the game. Worse, people just seem more inclined to act like idiots on their alts. Ibby (Rhapsody) admitted she was curious to play that way, same wording. Some other examples. Thin_Man's weird--he was more active as a secret alt, but at some point I understand the looseness actually offended Sarcastro. (He's since been outed, and I don't know what he's like now. I hear he lurks. :P) These are role models, socialites, and not the only ones. Stop it?

(That said, my scumdar deals in sinister vibes, probably a lot more than it should. There's something about Rhapsody's early illiteracy that made me softer on her, even knowing who she really was. Quiet, you.)

On Day 3, I spent a bunch of posts trying to post reasonable defenses over attacks that I still think were fucking stupid. The instant I cursed, caricatured the last three posts and threw in a witty jab at someone who wasn't playing for good measure, I rallied Patrick and Mexal and get everything back on-track again. (Temporarily, at least.) That's
not
a positive sign, people.

Speaking of Mgm, he became such a target for his conduct with Patrick when he was
kidding
. Just saying.
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Poor Mexal the
Grunt
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I cannot overstress how hard this made me laugh.
Post 658, Soupfly wrote:Look, I don't mind if you don't like me. If you play mafia to make friends then you're always going to wind up trusting some scum. They're the ones that are looking to not rub people the wrong way and sugar coat their suspicions.
Um,
no.
Being trustworthy in a game and being likeable as a human being are two completely different things. Keep in mind that I'm the sort of person who pulled strings to replace Kilroy instead of my godmother, who had actually requested replacement. I am completely here to make friends; nonetheless, Rhapsody hit more nerves with me when she stopped holding her Ibby-vibes back.

And you'd better not ever, ever forget that your emotions completely owned you in this case.

Incidentally, I made some nominations in the titles thread for this game.
As I move my vote
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:57 am

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Ether wrote:Stop it?
K?
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:05 pm

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monday morning quarterback 101?

what a bunch of crap ether. is that how things go on this site? i've never seen anything like this. considering alts, personal relationships compromising the game and lots of other townie mistakes i think your recent posts ether earn you a well deserved STFU. i thought i was playing the game straight up, but this is more like a high school soap opera than it is a fair game.

and next time you feel like calling somebody a complete fucking idiot, consider that it only makes you look small by hiding behind this thing called the internet. if you wanna be tough and such, do it in real life. try telling somebody that to their face and see where it gets you.

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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:09 pm

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Mexal wrote:Soupfly, I don't really know what you were doing but don't EVER vote first in a LYLO situation when you're town. You allowed the scum to just pile on. At least discuss the shit and think about the evidence instead of basing your entire case on metaing Shanba who came into the game this very day.
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:10 pm

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ibaesha wrote:
Ether wrote:Stop it?
K?
No I will not put him up for adoption! Mexal and I love eachother!!
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:10 pm

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Setael wrote:I have to say, I'm shocked we won. Especially after the town took out ALyG on D1. When I added my vote to d3sisted's, I was obviously hoping Sarcastro would get online and vote before anyone else saw that I'd put Shanba at -1. I thought it was pretty obvious I was the traitor and was shocked when soupfly voted Shanba. I then didn't want to vote until Sarcastro voted, since it was the obvious move for him, but would make me look really scummy. When Sarcastro seemed to be stalling, I decided to just vote and see what would happen. I thought there was a good chance soupfly would unvote and yell "Gotcha!"

So anyway, yeah... shocked we won.

Don't be too hard on soupfly. I made that exact mistake in my first newbie game. I give a lot of credit to Rhapsody. Played well enough to not get investigated, which would have been game over.
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:11 pm

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Soupfly, I haven't the slightest idea what you're going on about, or why you're bitching to
me
about alts.

Hi, Colin!
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:13 pm

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Holy crap. I actually won.

All the credit goes to Setael and Rhapsody. I think all of my kills were fairly obvious (at least Patrick and d3sisted were).

I had no idea I was going to win when I voted for Shanba. I actually thought at the time that Shanba was the most likely traitor, so yeah, that was basically me hoping that I was wrong, since I would have been totally screwed had Shanba actually been the traitor.

I don't think Soupfly can be blamed for the town's loss. I didn't exactly like his play at the end (why exactly did you think that the traitor was one of me and Shanba?), but I don't think it's his fault. The scum
didn't
quicklynch Shanba, at least not intentionally.

Anyway, I have to say that it doesn't feel completely like a win, since I didn't play (or even read) the whole game. Congratulations to Setael especially, though, who played so well even I didn't think he was the traitor.
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:48 pm

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Simenon wrote: No I will not put him up for adoption! Mexal and I love eachother!!
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:54 pm

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Ether wrote:Soupfly, I haven't the slightest idea what you're going on about, or why you're bitching to
me
about alts.

Hi, Colin!
probably the iq difference. don't worry, go on about your mediocre life and feel free to characterize people as you will behind your computer monitor. congratulations...you win the internets!
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:03 pm

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soupfly, just what are you on about?

Are you angry because Ether called you an idiot?
Are you angry because of the issue I caused by playing an alt and being replaced? If so, don't blame Ether. I was the idiot who did that one.
Do you feel that you would've played the game differently had Ether not been replaced, and therefore have been cheated? If so, I profusely apologize.
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:05 pm

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soupfly wrote:fine, lay all the blame on me. i'll take it.

i did my best. only thing i was wrong on was ether/shanba. i got it in my head that she was scum and couldn't let go. aside from that i was right on most other things...including eldarad, setael. if not for the claim i'd have lynched setael for sure. unfortunately i chose wrong on shanba vs. sarcastro. i should have known...in a way i did but i went with logic instead of my gut...damn it.
For the record, you should take some of the blame. You bitched at me pretty hardcore for getting eldarad wrong but it seems I was quite right about Sarcastro and Setael. I even said this in my post before I died...that two of d3sisted, sarcastro and setael were scum.

Did you ever stop to think why you were still alive or even think about all the connections? Honestly, reading the last day was like reading a clinic on why metaing is bad. You didn't look at a single thing or try to work out what actually made sense. I was completely floored reading that.

I might be abrasive, pushy and aggressive, but when all is said and done, I analyze the shit out of the game. I just can't believe you didn't.
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:08 pm

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ibaesha wrote:soupfly, just what are you on about?

Are you angry because Ether called you an idiot?
Are you angry because of the issue I caused by playing an alt and being replaced? If so, don't blame Ether. I was the idiot who did that one.
Do you feel that you would've played the game differently had Ether not been replaced, and therefore have been cheated? If so, I profusely apologize.
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:09 pm

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Good luck, Simenon. I hope it works out for you.
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:10 pm

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Simenon wrote: Mexal and I are going to get married, and there's nothing you can do to stop it. You can't control my life! You can't control my future! This was our mistake, and we're keeping it!!!
It would have been nice if you asked me first. I do love a good proposal...preferably romantic.
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:10 pm

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ibaesha wrote:Good luck, Simenon. I hope it works out for you.
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