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In post 799, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 795, MegAzumarill wrote:

In post 794, Gamma Emerald wrote:and why aren't you voting loftwing if that's your core suspicion out of (loftwing/gamma/pooky)?

I think the associative is there if loftwing is scum.

It doesn't mean that I think he is more likely to be scum.

yeah this is transparently trying to dodge putting actual pressure on loftwing
meg/dwlee/loftwing is the scumteam

In post 510, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you know my scum game is like lazy as fuck right?

In post 516, Loftwing wrote:I honestly don't know what to do in this game.

I feel... so.. empty.

In post 543, Kazyan wrote:

In post 539, the worst wrote:

In post 449, Kazyan wrote:Why would you not vote for the person who you think is Mafia

Like I think Pooky would do this even as town (I still think he's SK/delighting in being the villain; nice crumb), but Dann?

vote people you're null on so they panic and start making alignment tells

let's say you've found sk pooky. what are the rest of your reads - e.g. townreads?

Too lazy to do my usual readslist format, but Loftwing is pretty high up there (I dunno if you can fake that amount of daydreaming). I liked your entrance, particularly the "I hate my life" reaction to the softball questions. List looks something like:

Loftwing
the worst
unwnd? (had a pretty well-thought out read on me; it's the others who were dogpiling and feigning indignity)
Dwlee?

NULL/LITERALLY WHO: Lurkers
CONFUSED ABOUT: Dann and Gork

House (P-Edit: oof)
Pooky

In post 557, Gorkington wrote:i cant believe nobody has called out how fake kaz's last readlist was q_q

In post 568, Dwlee99 wrote:

In post 566, Loftwing wrote:

In post 563, Dwlee99 wrote:Saria's song, yea. Just an easy version cause I can't play piano (as evidenced by me not knowing the left hand cause I can't use both at once right now)

Clearly this is a conspiracy to hide the fact that you only have one hand!

Spoiler: very stupid joke

In post 734, MURDERCAT wrote:If the argument Kaz is scum is "Kaz is saying stuff I think it's dumb" then I don't buy it

In post 662, Gorkington wrote:i can see why it seems like thats what im saying
but the point isnt that the reads are outrageous, its that theres so many reads that feel like kazyan is picking a gimmick to justify, rather than them just believing that a player is mafia or town and having reasoning to back it up.

In post 805, Gamma Emerald wrote:fake read list does not a scum make

kaz wrote:Gork? You feeling that, or are me and Worst still in there somewhere?

In post 575, Gorkington wrote:

In post 567, Kazyan wrote:I sure do love to see people sheeping Pooky's cries of "partner!" when I townread someone and "OMGUS!" when I don't. FFS this game is so scum-led it hurts. Do you guys have any reads that aren't related to me?

a) ive been reading you/the worst as partnered since before wake replaced
b) i have lots of reads i just dont share them for free
c) again with the indirect "all the people scumreading me are mafia but im not willing to commit to it bit by actually calling specific people mafia"-bit.

to expand on c) it feels like literally every read that kaz is pushing in this game is based on a bit.
house was town because trying to solve.
loftwing is town because aloof and daydreaming.

house is mafia because of the gimmick thing.
pooky is serial killer because he "softed it".
people pushing them are mafia because theyre pushing him and mafia is strongarming the game.

all of these are concepts that seem plausible, but do you actually really believe that kaz believes them if you actually sit and think about how reads are genuinely formed?
idk im probably not conveying it well but it just seems really obvious to me >_>

dwlee wrote:I think it'd be cool if the solve was kaz-kidamn-the worst but I don't really believe in that

i historically have a bad track record of identifying partners so im not actually particularly confident about my feelings about kaz-the worst logically even though my gut is like RARARA KILL THEM BOTH!!!

In post 587, Kazyan wrote: Since you won't shut up about this, fine. I think you and Dann are masons. You were moving in lockstep but I saw you two do it in reverse orders

In post 609, unwnd wrote:Ehh no

House/Azumarill/Dwlee is my poe right now

I don't know if i see them all as scum, though

In post 812, Gorkington wrote:gamma's latter catch-up stuff is like fine, i guess.

p-edit: the scum agenda is faking reads to try to seem like theyre being productive and protown when theyre not? why does a relatively new player have to have an amazing agenda in their play vs just trying to stay alive by trying to emulate some facet of their towngame?

In post 816, the worst wrote:i am the scums and i have fooled u all, muahaha

In post 815, Gorkington wrote:not everyone is good at being mafia.

In post 633, unwnd wrote:No it doesn't lol

That's just a PoE of who I'd vote in today

In post 632, Dwlee99 wrote:A poe is a list of people you don't townread. It implies you townread the other 9 people in the game if you give a list of three poe.

In post 644, the worst wrote:

In post 609, unwnd wrote:Ehh no

House/Azumarill/Dwlee is my poe right now

I don't know if i see them all as scum, though

those are just lurkers/active ppl with low presence.. i'd be fairly surprised if this was even 2/3

In post 822, Gorkington wrote:its obviously working well enough for you to not scumread them maybe theyre secretly a genius who has pushed the envelope so far that 60% of the playerlist is just noping out of sorting them because youre too lazy to parse bad play vs scum play.

gottem.

but seriously i just object to the idea that people are being dismissive of kazyan's townplay because theyve said some things that people thought were ridiculous.
i read some of the games people are referencing (against my better judgment (idk why i cant stop using meta)), and kazyan seemed a lot more convincingly interested in the pushes they were making, regardless of whether the reasoning made sense to me.