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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2009 3:03 pm

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There's still the mystery of where my oven mitts came from. FL only sent out three pairs and now four people have them (veerus, DtF, CK, myself), and nobody has admitted to giving them me.

I wonder if the cookies and oven mitts have an interaction..
I personally think that farside's role claim is the scummiest. I think the role she claimed us probably true, but I don't think she's town. Her role seems like a very useful way for scum to find out what they're up against.
But her play actually isn't very scummy for what I know of her. She's playing different then she does from what I've seen as scum.

Also...have we tried lynching the mod yet?

Is anyone else a Death SK/miller/thingy/moo?
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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2009 3:38 pm

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No, but I'm living (dead?) proof of unusual death mechanics.
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2009 3:39 pm

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I wonder if you could still send mittens to me.
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2009 4:34 pm

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I targeted rokojov. If you are town, then you wouldn't be notified. If you are scum, well you would have said if you had accepted, now wouldn't have you?

Wait a second, I don't think I got a pm from the mod I should have gotten. Hold on…
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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2009 4:35 pm

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Nope I did. Nothing happened it said.
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2009 2:23 am

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farside wrote:Also
fos: rokovoj

how does this not sound like a poisner to people that is classic scum role.
Wow, thanks for assuming that a scum-sounding role is scum instead of analyzing my play,
especially
in a game like this. We had a town-aligned vote-stealing Rod Blagojevich after all.
FL wrote:I wonder if the cookies and oven mitts have an interaction..
Huh, maybe. Some pure speculation here, but perhaps having oven mitts changes the effect of my cookies. Though, the cookies I sent to q21 were made without oven mitts, since I only got those last night, so if the mitts did anything to my role I think we'd only see that tomorrow. I think it's equally likely that your oven mitts do nothing.
FL wrote:Also...have we tried lynching the mod yet?
No, but I suppose we can if you want. Since the mod isn't here and there's no deadline we apparently have time to attempt to lynch the mod AND RF.
CK wrote:I targeted rokojov. If you are town, then you wouldn't be notified. If you are scum, well you would have said if you had accepted, now wouldn't have you?
Hmmm. You got oven mitts last night, then your oven mitts were replaced with copies, nobody else has said they targeted me, and now I have oven mitts. Maybe when you targeted me, you somehow duplicated your oven mitts and gave me a pair. We hadn't seen this happen before because veerus and DtF don't have night choices.

Anyone else want to send an angry PM to Minineko or shall I do the honors?
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2009 9:42 am

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DraketheFake wrote:
q21 wrote:Claiming that CK is town is such a result unless you believe that all three of CK, farside and myself are scum.


Wrong.
Not wrong. farside has confirmed him as town due to his role PM which she has apparently read. I confirmed him as town based on my own role. The only way that CK is scum is if both farside and myself are scum too.

Hence, traceable result unless you believe that there are three scum left.
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2009 10:00 am

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I'm wondering if we're operating with the same definition of "traceable."

I would agree with you that CK is probably town, but scum would know who town is anyway, so that you and farside have both claimed that CK is town still doesn't tell us anything about your alignment or her alignment. There's no way for us to tell if you really investigated CK, since you could just as easily be making that all up. Your result, therefore, isn't traceable.
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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2009 11:20 am

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I took traceable to mean a result I can't have lied about. From your perspective I could have lied about having the investigation to begin with, but I couldn't have lied about the result.
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2009 11:33 am

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I'm not voting you rok but if q21 comes up town i would be looking hard at you.
Q21's saying my role looks scummy and now jumping on rok looks far worse right now.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2009 2:25 pm

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Huh, maybe. Some pure speculation here, but perhaps having oven mitts changes the effect of my cookies. Though, the cookies I sent to q21 were made without oven mitts, since I only got those last night, so if the mitts did anything to my role I think we'd only see that tomorrow. I think it's equally likely that your oven mitts do nothing.
Indeed

No, but I suppose we can if you want. Since the mod isn't here and there's no deadline we apparently have time to attempt to lynch the mod AND RF.
Sure ^-^

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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Tue May 05, 2009 5:12 pm

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Cookies and oven mitts are all fine and dandy, but you guys are missing the larger picture here. You should read between the lines. You're already trying to lynch a dead person. What other things could you try?
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 4:18 am

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q21 wrote:I took traceable to mean a result I can't have lied about. From your perspective I could have lied about having the investigation to begin with, but I couldn't have lied about the result.
...I completely fail to see why you think your investigation
result
was of any significance whatsoever.
farside wrote:I'm not voting you rok but if q21 comes up town i would be looking hard at you.
Q21's saying my role looks scummy and now jumping on rok looks far worse right now.
Read your second sentence out loud and tell me if that makes sense to you.
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 5:45 am

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rokovoj wrote:
q21 wrote:I took traceable to mean a result I can't have lied about. From your perspective I could have lied about having the investigation to begin with, but I couldn't have lied about the result.
...I completely fail to see why you think your investigation
result
was of any significance whatsoever.
farside wrote:I'm not voting you rok but if q21 comes up town i would be looking hard at you.
Q21's saying my role looks scummy and now jumping on rok looks far worse right now.
Read your second sentence out loud and tell me if that makes sense to you.
Makes sense to me. :lol:
But you want a rephrase then
Q21 jumped on you the moment I made the comment about being a poisner just like he jumped on me about my role.
I feel his jump about roles is far more scummy then your role claim.
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 6:12 am

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I actually understood you the first time, but your facts are wrong and that confused me. q21 never "jumped" on me for my role. That was veerus.
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 6:39 am

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rokovoj wrote:I actually understood you the first time, but your facts are wrong and that confused me. q21 never "jumped" on me for my role. That was veerus.
I could have sworn it was q21.
Sorry
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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 6:46 am

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My God, I know I'm dead and scum, but you should listen to what I'm trying to say. There's a reason I'm being so cryptic. There are certain things I can't say. Just read between the lines. Your town v. town bickering and oven mitt/cookie speculation can wait.
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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:24 am

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If there are certain things you can't say, doesn't that imply that there's still something for you to lose?
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:37 am

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It is no longer possible for me to fulfill my win condition. That's mod-confirmed.
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 9:28 am

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Then what's preventing you from telling us what you're not allowed to tell us?
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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 11:00 am

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Sorry.
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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 12:35 pm

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1. RF may be in the same position that I was in in Tar's MS3 game. Due to my perceived death and inability to speak in the thread, Tar would feed me all sorts of (usually) useful info that I couldn't directly relay to the rest of the town.

2. I didn't jump on rok's claim.. I merely voiced my suspicions about multiple individual scum in the game that i've been considering for a while.

Assuming #1 then RF's reply to my question on the previous page makes me think that I was on to something. And if so, we can be deduced from it? Only thing I can think of is since we're looking for individual scum then interplay/busing/avoiding can not be analyzed in a meaningful way. And if we're looking for individual scum, we need to analyze individual play. Which makes q21 seem the next likely lynch target.

This also makes sense for two other reasons. 1) q21 has a fair amount of suspicion on him that he would be lynched eventually anyway therefore 2) might as well lynch him now since we have a "free" day due to lack of a NK last night

Therefore,
vote: q21
until someone has a better theory.
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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 4:27 pm

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RestFermata wrote:Sorry.
You can't be afraid of a modkill, can you?
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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:48 pm

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Sorry, CK.
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Post Post #899 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:55 pm

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Veerus, I'm running the risk of saying too much, but you are not yet seeing the light.
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