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Post Post #900 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:13 am

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I am fine with it--ever since I replaced in, I've been operating under the assumption that I'm clear, but if not that's fine too. I would just appreciate a little explanation as to why a massclaim is a good idea here.


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Post Post #901 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:01 am

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Stephoscope wrote:I am fine with it--ever since I replaced in, I've been operating under the assumption that I'm clear, but if not that's fine too. I would just appreciate a little explanation as to why a massclaim is a good idea here.
You're not quite clear because I've seen "X is scum only if Y is scum" end up with X and Y scum in Smalltown before (Mini 779). You are, however, mostly clear (but I consider Empking more cleared and I'm modconfirmed town).

We're massclaiming because:
1) This setup is functionally a Smalltown setup, and generally accepted procedure is to massclaim each day in Smalltown. (Shouldn't be much of a surprise - there was a partial massclaim on both Day 2 and Day 3 here, halted in each case only by failure to claim or similar._
2) I'm Tarhalindur. For examples of what I can do as town given a late massclaim, see Mafia 75 and Medieval Mafia (and I'm sure I'm missing a few games).
Massclaim is good for me, and if you're town what's good for me is good for you.

Important note: If we can softclear one more player, we should be in very good position to win the game (only things that would cost us the win would be a revived scum or the scum getting bonus Tazers).
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Post Post #902 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:17 am

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Bah :(
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Post Post #903 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:42 am

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If we catch another scum today it will 100% confirm stephoscope (since there would be one scum left and the only way he can be scum is if I am scum)
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Post Post #904 (ISO) » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:21 pm

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Anyway,
I am fine to claim, and if you'd like me to claim before Gorrad (due to his absence), I am fine with that. however, I understand you have a record for amazing things Tar, and if a revived player, called "Town" by the mod, exists, I won't doubt it. I understand it's theme, but a mod lying to the town like that still looks like bastard modding. That isn't something I'd imagine Rice would do. I can see not telling the role of the revived person, but not lying about it.

All my craziness aside, I am still fine with a mass claim in any order Tar (as confirmed) desires.
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Post Post #905 (ISO) » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:41 pm

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Any word on the Gorrad situation?
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Post Post #906 (ISO) » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:22 pm

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semioldguy wrote:Any word on the Gorrad situation?
As he, like all other players, successfully submitted a night action, I cannot prod him until 72 hours from day start. That would land in about 12 hours from this post. However, due to me being at work during that time, it will be immediately after I return.

He had informed me of a computer issue, and that was causing some level of V/LA, but as players have requested it, there will be a prod sent.
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Post Post #907 (ISO) » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:33 am

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I'd like BB to claim.
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Post Post #908 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:27 am

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Since it's been about 36 hours since the prod with no in game response, I'm going to go ahead and claim:
N1: I stated day 1 that I had some sweet office bling. I did nothing night one because my box was full of paper clips so I made jewelry
N2: I put together a stasis cell. So, I gain the ability to protect/roleblock any player. I used it on Ducky (who is duckduck, died as monkeyman).
N3: I put together a second stasis cell. I used this one on Melikefood.
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Post Post #909 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:02 am

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I go next right?
Or do we wait for Gorrad more?
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Post Post #910 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:16 am

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melikefood wrote:I go next right?
Or do we wait for Gorrad more?
Thinking.

I'd prefer we force a claim from Gorrad if possible (prodded RBT to try to get that Gorrad prod - I don't think RBT ever sent that prod).

That said, we *know* Gorrad is paying enough attention to the thread to send in a night action (as RBT just confirmed as such) and is not posting. I'm considering just forcing a claim out of everybody else and then lynching Gorrad PERIOD (I've seen Gorrad as town before. Multiple times. I've never seen him lurk like this - he's usually every bit as much of a game driver as I am).

Okay, don't claim yet. If Gorrad hasn't claimed by Monday, then go ahead and claim.
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Post Post #911 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:18 am

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Beyond_Birthday wrote:Since it's been about 36 hours since the prod with no in game response, I'm going to go ahead and claim:
N1: I stated day 1 that I had some sweet office bling. I did nothing night one because my box was full of paper clips so I made jewelry
N2: I put together a stasis cell. So, I gain the ability to protect/roleblock any player. I used it on Ducky (who is duckduck, died as monkeyman).
N3: I put together a second stasis cell. I used this one on Melikefood.
I want you to explain your reasoning for your Night 2 and Night 3 choices. NOW.
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Post Post #912 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:40 pm

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Gah! Once more, I've been V/LA. Catching up today/tomorrow.
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Post Post #913 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:02 pm

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My predecessor Tazed Tar (my confirmed item. WTF is with me and MM having the same confirmed? Or was he lying? I wish I hadn't been V/LA when he claimed...). All devices since then have failed.
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Post Post #914 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:05 pm

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Ah! Just realized, I should clarify:

My mod told me my boxes, and which one was used. I was not given the target of the tazer, and assume it was Tar. I've already sent a PM requesting clarification.
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Post Post #915 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:39 pm

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Gorrad wrote:Ah! Just realized, I should clarify:

My mod told me my boxes, and which one was used. I was not given the target of the tazer, and assume it was Tar. I've already sent a PM requesting clarification.
I await the clarification with bated breath.

Melikefood, now would be a good time for you to claim.
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Post Post #916 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:44 pm

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Yup! N1 choice was you.
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Post Post #917 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:11 pm

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N2: A majority of Ducky's posts were useless filler and the previous owner of the role was farside, who I expected to be stronger than she was playing. My goal was to role block the ducky.


N3: Hmm... mix feelings. I really felt unsure about melikefood and I figured he was a decent target if he was scum (roleblock) or town (protection) since I didn't get much of a "he's a power role" feel. (I realize no one is really a power role in this setup every night due to N1, but he seemed like he didn't have much power anyway. I hope I read him right if he is town.)
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Post Post #918 (ISO) » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:04 pm

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Gorrad wrote:Yup! N1 choice was you.
So... you just claimed performing what I'm pretty damn sure was the N1 Mafia kill for reasons I explained on the last page, and you were already my top scum choice even without taking night actions into consideration (ZazieR wasn't playing like Zazietown and her actions towards farside are scummy beyond belief given the farside/MonkeyMan flip).

Like hell you're town. Unless I see something really compelling, consider yourself lynched as soon as massclaim is over.

But I still want massclaim finished before we lynch anyone. We want as little information as possible to die tonight.
Beyond_Birthday wrote:N2: A majority of Ducky's posts were useless filler and the previous owner of the role was farside, who I expected to be stronger than she was playing. My goal was to role block the ducky.


N3: Hmm... mix feelings. I really felt unsure about melikefood and I figured he was a decent target if he was scum (roleblock) or town (protection) since I didn't get much of a "he's a power role" feel. (I realize no one is really a power role in this setup every night due to N1, but he seemed like he didn't have much power anyway. I hope I read him right if he is town.)
While I disagree with your assessment of how to use a jailkeep ability (I'm of the opinion that jailkeep should be used on the strongest analyst alive that you have a town read on, since for a good analyst loss of a night action is less damaging than dying would be), I can see this logic coming from a townie.

Still not completely sold on you being town, mind you, but it's plausible at least.

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Current plan:

I'm changing the rest claim order in light of Gorrad's claim (and the fact he replaced ZazieR) to the following:

- melikefood
- someoldguy
- Empking
- Stethoscope
- Tarhalindur

Even though I'm damn sure that Gorrad is scum, I don't want to lynch him immediately. We should finish the massclaim first. (In a vacuum, scum are probably Gorrad and melikefood, with Beyond Birthday fairly likely to be scum instead of the latter and an outside chance of someoldguy or Empking being scum.)

Also, I'd appreciate whatever protective abilities you can send my way tonight. I am confirmed town, after all.
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Post Post #919 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:04 am

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Okay.

N1 - built a Spybot and used on Empking. Saw that he tazed Zwet.
At this point, I was shooting in the dark with boxes I had and eating up anything that resulted from it.
This result had me tunneling on empking D2.

N2 - Built a force field, this made me bulletproof for the night. Lucky me!

N3 - Built a Jammer to use on Empking
Was under the impression that Emp might have another tazer on him. It's not that I think Emp is scum at this point, I just didn't trust his inexperience combined with a power like nightkills.

Am I allowed to call people inexperienced? xD

Looking back at it, it was a mostly a moment of me with my EMPKING ERRRGGGG glasses on. It's a good thing it was blocked by B_B.
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Post Post #920 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:05 am

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Night one I made a terminal and investigated AceMarksman (now Stephoscope) and found him to be innocent.

Night two I opened a box but was not able to make anything out of it.

Night three I made teleporter and I hid behind Gorrad.
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Post Post #921 (ISO) » Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:03 pm

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Killed Zwet
Hid behind Duck
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Post Post #922 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:08 am

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Empking wrote:Killed Zwet
oO
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Post Post #923 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:45 am

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Night one, my predecessor attempted to make a spybot to watch lobstermania, but was unsuccessful.

Night two, I successfully built a spybot. I watched/tracked (forget which is which) duckduck (later Monkeyman and lynched scum), and saw that he targeted Beyond Birthday. I wonder what that was about?

Night three, all I found was useless art supplies.
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Post Post #924 (ISO) » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:47 am

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Note: I was absolutely certain Monkeyman was scum as soon as he lied about what he did the previous night, but I didn't see any reason to claim anything as long as he was clearly going to be lynched anyway.
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