Stephoscope wrote:Tarhalindur wrote:Still want the Stethoscope clarification: specifically, need to be ABSOLUTELY SURE that he saw duckduck target Beyond Birthday with Spybot and not the other way around (BB target duckduck) with Sentry. (If that is a Spybot result, the logical conclusion is that Beyond Birthday was the missing Mafia kill N2, so Spybotting duckduck->BB softclears BB.)
Oh, I'm absolutely sure. My only confusion was that I forget the difference between watching and tracking. Duckduck targeted BB, I am absolutely certain. I sent my spybot Duckduck's way, remember how he looked scummy then?
Only by reread and by the actions of duckduck's predecessor - I wasn't paying too much attention at the time due to the minor inconvenience of being dead at the time.
(In this game, not in real life.)
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That makes things quite simple - as noted above, the logical place for the missing N2 Mafia kill is targeting Beyond Birthday, and I don't see scum killing scum.
There are a few potential flaws here: namely, two players other than Beyond Birthday used roles that can stop kills N2: melikefood (Force Field/bulletproof) and Empking (Teleporter/hider). I don't consider either of these particularly likely Mafia kills, however. Melikefood was extremely low profile (and has a better-than-average chance of being scum himself), so I really don't see him being a Mafia kill. Empking is harder to rule out (due to claiming the zwet kill - Mafia might have tried to get rid of him for that, much as I suspect the MonkeyMan claim was intended to get Empking lynched) but I doubt he's the N2 kill simply because he's Empking and thus infinitely lynchable.
Besides, BB was one of the strongest and most active players D2 and was moderately suspicious of duckduck; given that the Mafia killed me N1 and duckduck/farside flipped scum, I'd say that BB is a fairly likely Mafia kill.
So, let's assume Beyond Birthday is town and was Mafia killed N2 (prevented by Stasis Cell). In that case, the above post holds.
Where's the Mafioso who didn't make the N3 kill? It's not me (confirmed town yo!), and it's probably not Stethoscope (someoldguy investigation) or Beyond Birthday (Night 2 claimed action + missing N2 Mafia kill). In addition, Gorrad isn't in consideration here because I'm pretty sure he made the N3 kill. That leaves someoldguy, melikefood, and Empking.
Of these, I'd lean towards melikefood being the last Mafioso, given his uninspiring play and choices.
What happens if Gorrad somehow flips town? Given what we know of N1, that means the most likely scum team is Empking/melikefood by a fair margin (Empking scum requires melikefood scum), with decent chances at melikefood/someoldguy and someoldguy/Stethoscope (the latter two require that I was doublekilled - by Mafia and Gorradtown - N1).
(Is considering whether or not to post recommendations for townie night actions.)