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In post 924, dsjstr wrote:You seemed fairly enthusiastic about a coinflip. Why are you backing out right before it could potentially and most likely happen.

At first, I thought you were a noob with blinders on who was going to delay the town victory.

Now I'm concerned you might cost us the game even if I die because you trust clidd too much, and I'm hopeful you can turn around your wrong assumptions.

If the coin kills me, clidd has a chance of playing in your head like he's doing now and make us both lose.

We need to talk about Mohab and clidd and evaluate everything from the beginning over the next two weeks. I can't let you lose the game for town without working my ass off to help us all win.

I was lazy in this game. I thought we could win by page 30.

We might need to pump the page count to 80 or 120, but by the end of it, town will be less at risk of losing to clidd.

Well I am the easiest to trick, I'll fall for it.

In post 890, Albert B. Rampage wrote:

In post 884, dsjstr wrote:Just look at clidds scum games @Mohab if you still think it is him then we will have to do the coinflip

I skimmed through this game:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11657707

If you look at clidd-scum's posts, he looks pretty convincing. He's good at playing scum.

Do you disagree?

Why was this focused how well I thought he played a scum role? You said that you are worried by how much I trust clidd, this wouldn't be an attempt to create a fight between us?

I shouldn't say start a fight, rather cause a crack that would slowly widen as the two weeks pass.

Sure. What would make you second guess your townread on clidd?

Help me understand why you townread him above me and mohab.

What did you think of my case?

I don't care if I die but if you make two poor decisions in a row, we all lose. This is a worse-case scenario that we can't afford and must exhaust every possible option before risking.

Can you start with how I am 100% town.

You also said Mohab was 100% town but shhhh, maybe later.

In post 933, dsjstr wrote:Can you start with how I am 100% town.

If you're scum you just let clidd die and win tomorrow...it's obvious.

Of course you are both town.

How was I proven at the point where you said I was 100%, the three of us seemed uncertain of what mohab would do. You two said that it's up to mohab and I implied I agreed which came after your comment that I was 100%.

If I was scum it wouldn't matter if clidd or Albert died.

In post 803, Albert B. Rampage wrote:

In post 455, dsjstr wrote:Being in a 1 v 3 might not be as good as it sounds. Who ever the mafia is will kill someone from group 2 because of all the lynchbait in group 3. They will probably divide the 3 into separate groups which will lead us to imploding in on ourselves. Even if the person from group 2 is town how likely is it that the right bait is lynched? We need to stop talking about lynching based on the setup and start solving. No reason to rush this.
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I'm 100% convinced dsjstr is town with posts like this.

Mohab is also 100% town.

It's game over and town wins no matter if I die or you die today clidd.

You mean when I quoted you here?

This is a post only a townie would make.

In post 931, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Sure. What would make you second guess your townread on clidd?

Help me understand why you townread him above me and mohab.

What did you think of my case?

Why do you have no comments about my case?

why can't you explain your townread on clidd?

Why were you so ready to vote me?

Not even waiting until D3

I look forward to seeing how you plan to get clidd on your side

I want you to walk me through two alternate universes and explain all my actions day 1 and day 2.

One as town

One as scum

Tell me how my strategy benefits my win condition in both cases.

Just explain it, walk us through your hypothesis, everyone in the dead PT is reading your explanation and wants to be enlightened.

But I'm still 100% town and you are still the best scum hunter on the site?

In post 946, dsjstr wrote:But I'm still 100% town and you are still the best scum hunter on the site?

You are correct.

So here's the thing.

You think that I chose a distribution of 2/1/0 leaving an option to lynch group 3 who were all town, but all I did all of day 1 was tunnel on group 1 with my 2 buddies inside.

Then, I had one townie (MorningTweet) who believed so strongly I was town that she put group 1 at L-1 for me to prove I wouldn't hammer.

All of this while doing zero scumhunting. At any point in time I could have been the one everyone voted for.

Now if I thought I could lynch group 1 and get everyone to self-vote, why didn't I just put my scumbuddies in groups 2 and 3 instead of group 1? Why didn't I do 1/1/1? Why not keep MorningTweet or someone that I can persuade in the endgame with me?

Anyways, so then Day 2 comes. Clidd townreads me from day 1. I scumread mohab from day 1. But the optimal scum strategy for me here is to write a very clear case on the one person townreading me? And then after he flips town, I have to convince the guy I was attacking and you to vote for each other?

Does this plan make sense to you as scum?

Now how about from a town perspective. I correctly guess most of the scum are in group 1 and tunnel it in order to outWIFOM the scum with zero scumhunting effort. I try to convince people I'm not leading a 1/1/1 scumteam to appease the paranoia. I am proven correct and deduce the last scum day 3 no matter if it's inconvenient for my survival or not. And here we are talking now.

So which makes more sense? Explain to me.

I need to sleep I can do better tomorrow if you request...

D1 if you were scum you go for g1, it disassociates you from the other two that are in it. D2 you know that mafia wouldn't lose but your performance proving it is not 1-1-1 makes you look like town. You get clidd lynched. You get either me or Mohab lynched, wtf would mafia put themself not in group two. Well they have 10+ years of experience and they think they can get clidd lynched.

D1 as town based on the setup which you called shit or something like that, you make an assumption that g1 obviously has more than one mafia. If there are three you win if its two you get to D2. D2 you scum hunt because you are the best scum hunter on the site.