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In post 915, Frogsterking wrote:Progo, in 695 you say you townread Kitty for the same reasons you explained earlier and in 216 you say Kitty defending you was late which is scummy

however

Kitty is "CLEAR" because of 75. Ever since 216 you have written and behaved as though Kitty is clear because of 75.

When I say he was "clear", I didn't mean clear of being scum. I meant clear of stating certainty about the slip later, which is what I thought was scummy.

If scum was deciding whether or not to take advantage of my slip, they would wait until after everyone else gave their thoughts about it. Kitty was late to give his thoughts, but he did posted earlier expressing uncertainty. That's how 75 "cleared" him of being late, which gave him some town points.

But this is all an old read. I'm constantly updating my reads as I read the thread, and I didn't catch him doing anything scummy. I don't think he has a Mafia agenda. Everything he did makes sense with how his own reads progressed in the game. He's nothing more than Town hunting scum.

The same can't be said about fwog and Strange (I thought Frog + fwog was likely until a moment ago, but not anymore). I suspicious because Strange said they thought fwog was Mafia, but didn't hammer fwog despite fwog had already claimed and it didn't look like he would give us anything new.

P-edit: Precisely, ofmercia.

Nogo, Progo

75 is the only post you've awarded Kitty townpoints of any sort in your iso. 695 refers to 216 which refers to 75. It's all circular logic because now Kitty is ruled out due to PoE.

Agreed, there just isn't enough for that strong of a kitty town read.

Progo if you're town you need to do a better job explaining your read on Kitty because if it's a genuine read you didn't make it look like one.

In post 899, ProgoWoshua wrote:

In post 878, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I also dislike Progo’s "what are we waiting for?" I was clearly asking people to vote Kitty and trying to build a new wagon, but they acting like it was inevitable and we should just kill Fwog.

I'm not voting Kitty today.

Why not? I think he's pairable with any viable scumread and hasn't done anything that screams town himself.

In post 928, Frogsterking wrote:Progo if you're town you need to do a better job explaining your read on Kitty because if it's a genuine read you didn't make it look like one.

I'm sorry I didn't explain my reads (or talk much at all) during Day 1. Unfortunately, Day 2 is ending and I don't have time to go through the games explaining my reads.

So for now, how about we just compromise on Strange, since we are both suspicious of them?

UNVOTE: fwogcarf
VOTE: StrangeMatter

In post 928, Frogsterking wrote:Progo if you're town you need to do a better job explaining your read on Kitty because if it's a genuine read you didn't make it look like one.

But then again you think kitty is a PR with not much, if any, explanation at all so not sure what this says about alignment.

930 makes it actually look like progo + strange. Frog might just be a genius.

In post 932, ofmercia wrote:930 makes it actually look like progo + strange. Frog might just be a genius.

I'll bite. Please vote Strange with me.

In post 933, ProgoWoshua wrote:

In post 932, ofmercia wrote:930 makes it actually look like progo + strange. Frog might just be a genius.

I'll bite. Please vote Strange with me.

Strange had the deciding vote to break the two wagons tied at 3 each. Shifting a wagon onto strange will give them the 3 fwog wagon votes. Strange won't self hammer, so you're potentially eliming yourself by trying a strange wagon.

In post 934, ofmercia wrote:

In post 933, ProgoWoshua wrote:

In post 932, ofmercia wrote:930 makes it actually look like progo + strange. Frog might just be a genius.

I'll bite. Please vote Strange with me.

Strange had the deciding vote to break the two wagons tied at 3 each. Shifting a wagon onto strange will give them the 3 fwog wagon votes. Strange won't self hammer, so you're potentially eliming yourself by trying a strange wagon.

I thought fwog was the only wagon today with three votes. When did another wagon reach three votes?

In post 935, ProgoWoshua wrote:

In post 934, ofmercia wrote:

In post 933, ProgoWoshua wrote:

In post 932, ofmercia wrote:930 makes it actually look like progo + strange. Frog might just be a genius.

I'll bite. Please vote Strange with me.

Strange had the deciding vote to break the two wagons tied at 3 each. Shifting a wagon onto strange will give them the 3 fwog wagon votes. Strange won't self hammer, so you're potentially eliming yourself by trying a strange wagon.

I thought fwog was the only wagon today with three votes. When did another wagon reach three votes?

Didn't kitty have a strong town read on strange? Strange has checked out for who knows how long, and she/he might not get the chance to post again if I put to -1.

In post 936, ofmercia wrote:Didn't kitty have a strong town read on strange?

No, not a strong read:

In post 891, KittyTacky wrote:

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They never did anything particularly scummy and had tried to solve. It's not a super strong townread but I don't understand the case on them.

Strange has checked out for who knows how long, and she/he might not get the chance to post again if I put to -1.

Yes, that's why it's anti-town to bring new SRs to the table when it's close to the deadline. This is why I thought Frog + fwog was more likely than Strange + fwog a few posts ago. If we can eliminate fwog today, I'll gladly change my vote back, but otherwise, I just hope Strange shows up soon.

So I know the deadline is coming up very soon. We definitely need a compromise somewhere.

I'm very much at the point where I despise ending days early (see my past two Mini games, I got hammered early, Dwlee got hammered early and screwed us over both times).

In post 938, StrangeMatter wrote:So I know the deadline is coming up very soon. We definitely need a compromise somewhere.

I'm very much at the point where I despise ending days early (see my past two Mini games, I got hammered early, Dwlee got hammered early and screwed us over both times).

It's looking like you or progo.

In post 938, StrangeMatter wrote:So I know the deadline is coming up very soon. We definitely need a compromise somewhere.

I'm very much at the point where I despise ending days early

(see my past two Mini games, I got hammered early, Dwlee got hammered early and screwed us over both times).

Then I'll give you the chance to end things late.

UNVOTE: StrangeMatter
VOTE: fwogcarf,

Completely off topic, but can I suggest that you just use bold to point out what you see instead of coloring posts?

In post 940, ProgoWoshua wrote:

In post 938, StrangeMatter wrote:So I know the deadline is coming up very soon. We definitely need a compromise somewhere.

I'm very much at the point where I despise ending days early

(see my past two Mini games, I got hammered early, Dwlee got hammered early and screwed us over both times).

Then I'll give you the chance to end things late.

UNVOTE: StrangeMatter
VOTE: fwogcarf,

he's now in E-1!

Did I call this, or did I not call this?

In post 795, Frogsterking wrote:There are partner tells on this page of Progo + Strange. Progo has a poor read progression on Strange and claims to be willing to push Strange while not directing much shade heavily in that direction. Then, on this page Progo asks strange a question (a very easy question) and Strange completely ignores Progo.

Progo claims to be willing to execute Strange but I think there's a reasonable chance Progo is lying and the solve is actually Progo + Strange.

I say we call Progo on his bluff and flip the vote onto Strange. I think if Progo tries to resist a Strange wagon now that he's claimed he's willing to change the execution then Progo is caught lying about Strange and I FoS both of them for the team.

In post 942, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 940, ProgoWoshua wrote:

In post 938, StrangeMatter wrote:So I know the deadline is coming up very soon. We definitely need a compromise somewhere.

I'm very much at the point where I despise ending days early

(see my past two Mini games, I got hammered early, Dwlee got hammered early and screwed us over both times).

Then I'll give you the chance to end things late.

UNVOTE: StrangeMatter
VOTE: fwogcarf,

he's now in E-1!

Did I call this, or did I not call this?

Hey it looks like I called it

Between Fwog/Progo i want Prog i think.

Hang on if my count is right that's a hammer.

PFFT no, I'm just bad at reading votes again.

Don't mind the above post.

In post 938, StrangeMatter wrote:So I know the deadline is coming up very soon. We definitely need a compromise somewhere.

I'm very much at the point where I despise ending days early (see my past two Mini games, I got hammered early, Dwlee got hammered early and screwed us over both times).

In post 941, StrangeMatter wrote:Completely off topic, but can I suggest that you just use bold to point out what you see instead of coloring posts?

Strange just hammer fwog and kill me tonight and counter claim the last PR on D3 it's your best play. No one is townreading you for slowrolling.

In post 941, StrangeMatter wrote:Completely off topic, but can I suggest that you just use bold to point out what you see instead of coloring posts?

I'm sorry.

Back on topic, will you hammer fwog? Or not? Stop stalling.

Progo and Strange aren't going to lim each other my ego can't compute it.