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Yates hi. I think I can deal with you later. You don't make my gut rumble so much.

VOTE: splitfarvle

Hez I like your reads, except maybe switch one of them with Yates. But that might be because I have been tunneling since Day -1.

↑ vijay2vasandani wrote:Hez I like your reads, except maybe switch one of them with Yates.

Which one?

Hmmm. Scott.

Vote count coming later.

Prod dodge, but I'll make this game a priority today and tomorrow.

What? Because I've suddenly read the game no one wants to say anything?

Back.

I've basically got nothing until I see some answers to my questions in 948.

↑ PeregrineV wrote:@Yates- Can do. I just looked earlier, but I'll go pull the posts/quotes.

Post 277 is the first.

Second

↑ pappums rat wrote:I think we have gotten just about as much from Day 1 as we can, and I think we should consolidate to three candidates: MoI, pizza, and myself. I think we would get the most relational information from either a lynch of MoI or myself. While I do believe pizza is scum, I will

Unvote
Vote: MoI

for this reason. If an MoI lynch will not happen I will return to pizza.

and 496.

But, all in all, weak. And all his big arguments/discussions were with flipped town.

Thanks, PV. That was way earlier than I was looking.

↑ Tammy wrote:

↑ Tammy wrote:

↑ The Mini-Librarian wrote:Huh. I'm alive.

hmmmmmm.

That probably means my reads are off.

Awkward reaction to the nightkill is awkward. Which sucks because I had you pretty solidly town and now I need to take another look.

Okay I just ISO'd you...you can stay town.

Can you go into details on this. I tried looking at his posts and comparing it to his town games, of which there are none. That means this read is not based on meta, but contents of the posts themselves. Please elaborate.

(also, in contrast but related, you have no completed scum games, so for future playing purposes, I look forward to comparing your posting style in both)

Sorry all, I just don't have as much free time as I thought I would this month. The extra work is nice, but severely cuts into my internet time. I only got about half the reading done that I had wanted to and I'm not sure I can keep up.

prod-dodging...I think. I'll catch up in a bit.

I miss Korlash. I have nobody to with during work hours anymore.

Well, PV answered my question. I was confused until he provided his links. I guess my only follow up question would be; do you think the pizza/split slot was the only one Pappums implicated? And, if so, do you think that there's enough there to indicate that pizza/split would want Pappums dead for it?

↑ Yates wrote:I miss Korlash. I have nobody to

fight

play

with during work hours anymore.

Well, PV answered my question. I was confused until he provided his links. I guess my only follow up question would be; do you think the pizza/split slot was the only one Pappums implicated? And, if so, do you think that there's enough there to indicate that pizza/split would want Pappums dead for it?

If you look through, Papums was on MoI or Korlash all day.

I think if he was killed for fear of him catching scum, it would be meta based and not specific to this thread. Otherwise all I found was the Pizza/split posts I pointed out.

I was actually hoping for more conversation/input from split with the inital day vote, but that's gone.

So, short answer, I don't know.

Scott B - 2 PereV,splitfarvle
Split 2 - Scott Brosius,vijay2vansandani,
vijay2vansandani 1 - Yates,
PereV 1 - HezLucky ,



Tammy
The Mini-Librarian

(expired on 2012-06-27 08:43:15)

till Day 3 Deadline

Things to look forward to:
split replacement and contribution
response to 959

I still need to catch up here and answer your question, but here Pere...a town game with TML http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=21379

Tammy, please place a vote down ASAP. *hint: split*

I'm gonna to make it official that I'm not actually voting someone. Weird. I was voting Scott Brosius, but I don't feel so comfortable about that after the quick wagon sprung up.

Pere...in answering Post 959, I'm partially lost. I don't really base anything on meta unless it's personal experience anyway, so it's kinda weird that you brought that into the equation. And, no I have no scum meta on MS. The only time I was scum, I replaced into a game that was eaten by the crash. As far as my posting style goes, eh, I really don't play any two games the same, but I don't know that my posting style is so overly different from when I'm scum and town...to people unless they pay attention (I mean I think there's a big difference, but meh, I've been told there's not a difference and I've also been told that I have a certain free-flowing floaty style as town that I don't have as scum, but I don't know that that's a reliable indicator of my alignment either so who really knows and now I'm rambling. [I've had a little to drink while out])

But anyway, where I got a townish read of TML was here:

↑ The Mini-Librarian wrote:Have a town read on Tammy for having very similar thoughts as me, especially that reads list. This worked really well for me in Divided Germany, so we'll try it here also.

Feels to me like something town would say more than scum. Really there's nothing significantly towny in her posts before or after this as everything just seems like something a competent player would say or do regardless of alignment.

I do hate hate hate her reaction to the nightkill though. More often than not scum make terrible reactions to the night kill like this. Do you remember in GvE? Mastin did a similar thing. "Oh I wasn't night killed, it must be because my reads are bad...must change them." Blech effing crap. Scum often feel like they need to say *something* about the night kill...sometimes it's apologetic...sometimes surprise...sometimes some other manufactured crap. Seriously, if I were to lynch someone right now on gut feelings based on the reaction to the night kill, I'd lynch The Mini Librarian in a heartbeat.

What bothers me Pere is that you seem to be subtly directing suspicion in the way you want it to be...kind of like how you did with Korlash yesterday.

Anyway, I'll vote soon. But, I've had too much to drink to vote right now.

Is anyone besides Vijay going to comment on my PereV vote?

It feels like I'm onto something but the town aren't saying something because they aren't sure and the scum aren't saying something because they want to see what the town say first.

↑ HezLucky wrote:Is anyone besides Vijay going to comment on my PereV vote?

It's a fine vote, just not a vote for scum.

↑ Tammy wrote:

I do hate hate hate her reaction to the nightkill though. More often than not scum make terrible reactions to the night kill like this. Do you remember in GvE? Mastin did a similar thing. "Oh I wasn't night killed, it must be because my reads are bad...must change them." Blech effing crap. Scum often feel like they need to say *something* about the night kill...sometimes it's apologetic...sometimes surprise...sometimes some other manufactured crap. Seriously, if I were to lynch someone right now on gut feelings based on the reaction to the night kill, I'd lynch The Mini Librarian in a heartbeat.

I agree with this. If not for my initial town read, this would be of more concern. That being said, the townread has diminished as a result.

I'll rescind my vote until replacement comes, but this slot has been useless (pizza) and scummy (split).

↑ HezLucky wrote:Is anyone besides Vijay going to comment on my PereV vote?

I like the non-confusion theory as I feel similar not being able to get a grasp on this game. The vote on me is very weak from PV, and the initial easy wagon vote on split who he had not really mentioned previously looks bad

↑ HezLucky wrote:Is anyone besides Vijay going to comment on my PereV vote?

I realize I didn't say "I'm commenting on your vote, but I do respond to you about Pere here:

↑ Tammy wrote:
As far as me, the reader, yes I feel confused this game. I was certain about Scott just coming out of the day but the way the votes piled up on him have me thinking twice, and it's quite likely because my wagon mates are the two other people I have as my major suspects. But, if they're both scum I wouldn't expect them both to pile on immediately. blech.

Did you read my Post 919 where I ask Pere about how it looks like he was gently pushing the Korlash wagon without being on it? And his response in Post 932.

That makes me really suspicious, but Pere and Ben's interactions don't look bad at all, but jumping onto Scott when Split hadn't even posted yet after he voted him just after night is ringing alarms.

Pizza/Split's interactions look pretty bad and his contribution hasn't been great, but if he's scum I can't imagine he'd jump right on the Scott wagon if his partner was.

↑ PeregrineV wrote:

↑ HezLucky wrote:Is anyone besides Vijay going to comment on my PereV vote?

It's a fine vote, just not a vote for scum.

what the fuck is this supposed to mean?