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Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 8:14 pm
by dsjstr
I meant why the fuck would mafia not put themself in the group of two for the scum reasoning for D2
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 8:14 pm
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 949, dsjstr wrote:your performance proving it is not 1-1-1 makes you look like town
My proving I'm not the leader of a 1-1-1 conspiracy doesn't make me look town and when I wrote my case against clidd I didn't mention it at all. It means jack shit now. Look at everything else I did. Look at my logical case.
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 8:16 pm
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 950, dsjstr wrote:I meant why the fuck would mafia not put themself in the group of two for the scum reasoning for D2
Clidd expected me to vote for the biggest group day 2 like I did day 1.
Me + clidd + one of you self-votes and scum win.
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 8:18 pm
by Albert B. Rampage
Go back to day 1 and read clidds interactions with me. He keeps saying he already deduced I'm town. Its suicide if I'm scum to not create a better endgame for myself.
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 8:19 pm
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 710, clidd wrote: In post 704, Morning Tweet wrote:That's really surprising you went for that. plus group #3 fooled a lot of people including me reads-wise. nice job
You should have followed my reads.
In post 675, clidd wrote: In post 654, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I am now confirmed town or the only scum in groups 2 and 3 and I just put both my scumbuddies at L-1 twice
I'm not surprised, my reads already pointed out that you were town long before.
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 8:21 pm
by Albert B. Rampage
There's so many logical leaps you have to take in order to come to the conclusion that I'm scum and until you can explain those, you can't convince mohab to lynch me before clidd.
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 8:23 pm
by Albert B. Rampage
Clidds theory about the scum setting him up is also transparently false just look at their posts, they aren't setting up anyone.
Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 10:21 pm
by Mohab500
Man, who the fuck cares. Lynch clidd first, lynch Albert first, town wins either way. I don't see why you guys are wasting so much time on this bullshit.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:11 am
by clidd
My drastic change in read on you, Albert, was because of your opportunistic push today. And even if you hadn't pushed me, just the fact that you were still alive would be enough for me to question you.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:13 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 948, Albert B. Rampage wrote:So here's the thing.
You think that I chose a distribution of 2/1/0 leaving an option to lynch group 3 who were all town, but all I did all of day 1 was tunnel on group 1 with my 2 buddies inside.
Then, I had one townie (MorningTweet) who believed so strongly I was town that she put group 1 at L-1 for me to prove I wouldn't hammer.
All of this while doing zero scumhunting. At any point in time I could have been the one everyone voted for.
Now if I thought I could lynch group 1 and get everyone to self-vote, why didn't I just put my scumbuddies in groups 2 and 3 instead of group 1? Why didn't I do 1/1/1? Why not keep MorningTweet or someone that I can persuade in the endgame with me?
Anyways, so then Day 2 comes. Clidd townreads me from day 1. I scumread mohab from day 1. But the optimal scum strategy for me here is to write a very clear case on the one person townreading me? And then after he flips town, I have to convince the guy I was attacking and you to vote for each other?
Does this plan make sense to you as scum?
Now how about from a town perspective. I correctly guess most of the scum are in group 1 and tunnel it in order to outWIFOM the scum with zero scumhunting effort. I try to convince people I'm not leading a 1/1/1 scumteam to appease the paranoia. I am proven correct and deduce the last scum day 3 no matter if it's inconvenient for my survival or not. And here we are talking now.
So which makes more sense? Explain to me.
Okay so my master plan is to bus both my buddies and look super town but then for some reason not get NK'd.
Come on it's obvious I'm town. Everyone know that I'm bad at playing scum.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:22 am
by clidd
Yes, ok. You're a mastermind of scumhunting. Now, accept the coinflip and if you live, you will be treated as "conftown" and me as "confscum" by PoE if I live.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:27 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 960, clidd wrote:Yes, ok. You're a mastermind of scumhunting. Now, accept the coinflip and if you live, you will be treated as "conftown" and me as "confscum" by PoE if I live.
The exact same logic applies in reverse to you.
I think your wording was "self-vote if you have any dignity".
You just are afraid to die and think you can win day 3. It's not gonna happen, you need to die first.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:32 am
by clidd
Hypocrisy. You have stated several times that you are not afraid to die, but right now you are trying not to be lynched.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:36 am
by clidd
Your confidence that I am scum is contradictory to your attempt to survive. Regardless of the order, your pov should consider it a victory if you were town, what is clearly not happening.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:38 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 925, Albert B. Rampage wrote: In post 924, dsjstr wrote:You seemed fairly enthusiastic about a coinflip. Why are you backing out right before it could potentially and most likely happen.
At first, I thought you were a noob with blinders on who was going to delay the town victory.
Now I'm concerned you might cost us the game even if I die because you trust clidd too much, and I'm hopeful you can turn around your wrong assumptions.
You're not even reading anymore. It's not a victory until you die scumbag.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:59 am
by clidd
For that to happen, your flip would have to be town. I don't see how Scum!Clidd would convince Town!Dsj in this scenario.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 3:08 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 825, dsjstr wrote:
Clidd was scum in both of these games.
In post 813, Mohab500 wrote:Considering you're 100% confident he's scum, I feel like that it shouldn't matter if we lynch you first, then Albert. Right?
I don't see this as scum!clidd I would rather lynch you before clidd
Quite easily, in fact ^
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 4:09 am
by clidd
"I don't see this as scum!clidd
I would rather lynch you
before
clidd
"
His lynch order is Albert>Clidd, not Albert>Mohab. His impression of me depends on your flip, it's very unlikely that Scum!Clidd would be able to convince him if the game doesn't end with your lynch.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 4:46 am
by dsjstr
VOTE: Group 3
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 5:10 am
by clidd
???
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 5:13 am
by clidd
Don't flash-lynch Albert tomorrow, evaluate Dsj / Mohab first.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 5:23 am
by Mohab500
Albert, your turn.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 5:26 am
by Albert B. Rampage
I'm already voting group 3 from here and never unvoted.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 5:27 am
by clidd
To be honest, Scum!Clidd and Scum!Albert have no way of winning with the current scenario. I would not be surprised if I am wrong and our interaction was TvT.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 5:28 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 970, clidd wrote:Don't flash-lynch Albert tomorrow, evaluate Dsj / Mohab first.
Don't worry I'm going to put the time into this game that will win town the game. No hurry to vote.