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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:39 pm
by T3
In post 948, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:
In post 947, T3 wrote:Would you be willing to vote TLDNE wjith me?
you’ve explicitly stated you don’t have any actual reasons to scumread us other than poe. so why are you inviting others to join our wagon?

- lilith
I don't see any better option right now.

Fairy is leantown for the defense of Titus.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:39 pm
by RCEnigma
lillith can you talk to me about bingle, ive seen you swatting at Mastina's tunnel but it doesnt tell me where you stand on his slot at all. I can make assumptions but eh.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:40 pm
by The Limit Does Not Exist
I'm not lilith but I think Bingle's supposed scumslip was actually a townslip.

-S

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:41 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 917, T3 wrote:This is sort of reminding me of LN235 but Fairy is saying this is town Titus?
oh? i thought you were disagreeing with fairy here on titus being town.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:41 pm
by Dwlee99
I'm a Titus tunneler unless it's deadline. But I'll be around to vote at deadline

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:41 pm
by Dwlee99
Also I think that Bingle is > Rand town for having no potions.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:42 pm
by RCEnigma
a 2 for 1 hydra special oh my god.

the initial bingle posting his ingredient or the realization bit about ingredients not being consistent?

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:43 pm
by The Limit Does Not Exist
I don't want to vote Titus, I don't want to vote Bingle. I trust Norwee and by extension his townreads (Emperor, GCB, mastina).

Leaving Dwlee, T3, RCE, Fairy Circle.

-S

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:44 pm
by The Limit Does Not Exist
In post 956, RCEnigma wrote:the initial bingle posting his ingredient or the realization bit about ingredients not being consistent?
I think all of it points pretty strongly toward him actually having no potions. When I say townslip I was assuming that scum got a factional stock of potions like the last game; I will have to double-check that, because I realize that I might be wrong about it.

-S

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:46 pm
by The Limit Does Not Exist
I think bingle and mastina are both north of null. like SS said, I actually think bingle townslipped, not scumslipped, if I had to choose between the two. And while I absolutely hate mastina’s reasoning, I think it’s probably too angleshooty to be scum because scum!mastina would know that it’s not a scumslip and she would probably realize people would realize it’s not a scumslip.

my vote would go somewhere in {fairy circle, t3, titus} I think.

- lilith

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:46 pm
by The Limit Does Not Exist
Okay, yeah, I was wrong, but I think the odds of scum having no potions are still pretty low.

-S

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:46 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 321, Bingle wrote:
In post 313, mastina wrote:Oh you have ingredients in your role PM?
Just poison. I was implying I might have more than one in case Schadd told me this setup had closed elements to obscure information, but it turns out the ingredients are publicly a red herring.
implies that bingle has a potion....with an ingredient. did he claim to be potionless and i missed it?

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:47 pm
by RCEnigma
t3 im pulling out UNVOTE:

VOTE: dwlee

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:48 pm
by The Limit Does Not Exist
He said he has an ingredient without a potion. Schadd's example strongly suggested that people with no potions are flavored as having some item that is useless.

-S

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:49 pm
by The Limit Does Not Exist
@rce
In post 717, Bingle wrote:
In post 715, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:er, no. the ingredients lists literally have zero impact on the game. honestly I’m confused how you can have an ingredient without a potion.. but then none of this is making much sense to me.

- lilith
The sample potionless role PM matches mine except I got poison as an ingredient instead of a stolen crate. Poison is included as an ingredient in the Harmography potion (and only the harmography potion) in the OP. That's why I thought there might be a way to combine ingredients into potions.
In post 831, Bingle wrote:First:

My role PM had poison specifically called an ingredient, in lieu of the crate of bottles.

Second:

Yes. Given the information from my role PM, I DID assume there was an additional mechanic of potion ingredient combination. That's pretty self evident. Entirely lacking in your questioning is why that's a specifically scum misunderstanding.

Third:

Yes. I've explicitly been using tools from my scum toolbox. Because I'm not a shitty player and my scum toolbox and town toolbox are remarkably similar toolboxes. (FWIW, my town toolbox is a subset of my scum toolbox, because there are some things that are effective as scum (laying false associatives, for example) that just don't have a town use). Your argument is about as relevant as arguing that me buddying someone is scum indicative, when more than most the way to read me is by looking at my results. Ask yourself this: Am I driving this thread in a direction where it is easier or harder for town to solve it?

Now that we've got that out of the way:

What do you make of Titus/RCE/Dwlee?

Dwlee specifically has been giving me flashbacks to Draft, where he was scum defending me from Titus in lieu of defending himself, and I want to know if you see the same thing.
- lilith

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:50 pm
by T3
In post 953, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 917, T3 wrote:This is sort of reminding me of LN235 but Fairy is saying this is town Titus?
oh? i thought you were disagreeing with fairy here on titus being town.
I do disagree. It was a noticeable but ineffective defense. Usually not something to come from scumpartnes.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:52 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 958, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:
In post 956, RCEnigma wrote:the initial bingle posting his ingredient or the realization bit about ingredients not being consistent?
I think all of it points pretty strongly toward him actually having no potions. When I say townslip I was assuming that scum got a factional stock of potions like the last game; I will have to double-check that, because I realize that I might be wrong about it.

-S
idk anything about the potion distribution, someone did back bingle up with the logic that he would have just checked the ingredients against partners ingredients in scum pt and i dont think its possible scum only ends up with 1 potion though. so i think that defense holds some weight, more than him being town for claiming to be potionless.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:53 pm
by The Limit Does Not Exist
was that not me who said that?

- lilith

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:53 pm
by RCEnigma
oh the bits i skipped over, ty lillith.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:54 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 967, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:was that not me who said that?

- lilith
maybe lol, i already had my change of heart I dont want to murder your slot.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:55 pm
by The Limit Does Not Exist
In post 966, RCEnigma wrote:idk anything about the potion distribution
It's in the OP. Scum are significantly more likely to have potions than town.

-S

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:56 pm
by Green Cap Boys
In post 958, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:When I say townslip I was assuming that scum got a factional stock of potions like the last game; I will have to double-check that, because I realize that I might be wrong about it.
>_>

s_s, you wouldn't try to fake a townslip this dumb at this ungodly hour of day 1, right?

-D

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:56 pm
by RCEnigma
well yeah i know its there but its many numbers and i didnt join this game of mafia for math.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:00 pm
by T3
You joined to commit aggravated assault with a glass bottle.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:01 pm
by Dwlee99
Scum me would have hopped on the bingle wagon because I was on it earlier and it's super easy to just go along with whatever wall posts mastina is making. Instead I said I think Bingle is town for the no potions thing