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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:57 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 227, Cabd wrote:
In post 224, Tammy wrote:okay it's late and almost page 10 which means my internal mafia clock says it's time to start making serious posts too

I don't wanna
Hi Tammy, I have expressed read(s), do you agree with those read(s) or no, and why?

It's srsbsns time!
okay what actual reads had been expressed at this point by cabd? I don't recall much serious reads being expressed by him

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:59 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 974, SirCakez wrote:Not in this case imo.
Go on?

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:01 pm
by SirCakez
In post 976, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 974, SirCakez wrote:Not in this case imo.
Go on?
Nahdia is aware of the effect of their "admission of fault"

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:02 pm
by Something_Smart
The effect seems to be to get people such as you to suspect them. You think Nahdia did it as a tactic to... get scumread?

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:07 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 228, Cabd wrote:
In post 222, fferyllt wrote:
In post 213, Cabd wrote:
In post 192, Cabd wrote:
In post 191, petapan wrote:nah because the bear's town
Spoiler: People Town Reading Archer Masonry PT
Hi!
Spoiler: People Town Reading Archer Masonry PT
Pop Quiz, who are my other town reads and why?
Spoiler:
Me. ~reasons~
Did you and Syr end up in a black hole? Or are you moon gazing with blue balls?
This might just be a general in-joke but I thought of Advance Wars when I saw this
In post 254, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 252, midwaybear wrote:
In post 250, SirCakez wrote:I kinda dig the RP it adds vibes
Not really. It just gives Pooky something to hide behind while he’s definitely capable of more. A successful town has everyone engaged and focused, so I think Pooky should just stop if he is town.
ah yes the engaged and focus townie police are here to make sure everyone is focused and on-task. excellent. its page 11 now, definitely time to start super tryharding, because the more you try the better you play.
"oh look at me I'm such a towny stick-in-the-mud!"
It seems more like you're objecting to the roleplay for optics than for actually disliking it.

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:08 pm
by SirCakez
In post 978, Something_Smart wrote:The effect seems to be to get people such as you to suspect them. You think Nahdia did it as a tactic to... get scumread?
But you literally just said you think it's a townie thing to do...

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:19 pm
by DiamondSentinel
In post 959, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 928, DiamondSentinel wrote:(and yes, these are all not in this game, but I'm deliberate about using people not in this game, lest I be wrong and eat my words)
lol

are there any people in the game who would fit into the categories you're describing?
Perhaps. :wink:

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:20 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 310, Alisae wrote:
In post 305, Cabd wrote:Alisae, are you excited to be in this game?
im not sure excited is the right word. I'm happy I get to play with certain individuals who are present at the table but i wouldn't say im excited about it
btw I think this is the first time I've played with cabd and alisae at the same time since my first game with cabd
In post 319, petapan wrote:
In post 304, Alisae wrote:
In post 302, petapan wrote:
In post 296, Alisae wrote:
In post 293, petapan wrote:alisae did you draw scum this game
no
are you sure. if you're scum without me i'll be pissed
wouldn't you know if we both drew scum together
yeah but i didn't drw scum and it looks like you might have
I think this is a town response
In post 324, Alisae wrote:
In post 323, Tayl0r Swift wrote:?????????????
?????????????????????
alisae and taylor swift are both fine options for a bit of rogue killing in the night

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:22 pm
by fferyllt
You guys were busy. I've skimmed the last few pages but I'm going to need to go back through with more brain cells.

I've had a wait and see approach to Nahdia. Haven't played with them in the past, was intrigued by the vote, wanted to see some followthrough.

It's the weekend. I'm patient.

@Cabd was there stuff you wanted to talk about tonight?

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:27 pm
by Cabd
There was but people are talking about me and my ego will never recover.

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:28 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 980, SirCakez wrote:But you literally just said you think it's a townie thing to do...
It is. It's towny because most people don't see it as towny.

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:34 pm
by fferyllt
In post 878, SirCakez wrote:
In post 736, fferyllt wrote:I'm going to elaborate a little on my 731.

Syr, Cabd and midwaybear have expectations of bell's play, somewhat informed by meta. petapan has much of the most salient meta front and center of his brain, too.

You three come to the same conclusion about Bell's alignment without openly discussing it.

I did not come to that conclusion, and at the point where Syr vocalized the meta, I went on high alert to see what happens next.

petapan happens next. Which means that he didn't reach my conclusion. But, why would he wait until the meta info hit the thread before voting if he was in the "I miss Avenger" camp?
Is this why there is a Bell wagon? Insider meta that was not really shared with the thread? Hmm ok..
Very fresh meta, with a caveat of unusual mechanic, creative design, anon game so not all players were into their usual playstyle, and a fairly dense game to get into because most of the avatars blended together. Some of the players, like Syr and me, came out of retirement to play this game, so there were varying amounts of rust to shake off.

Have at it!

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=84090

Avenger = Bell
Assassin = petapan
Alter Ego = fferyllt
Archer = midwaybear
Rider = Syryana
Mod = Cabd
Spectator = Tammy

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:35 pm
by SirCakez
In post 985, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 980, SirCakez wrote:But you literally just said you think it's a townie thing to do...
It is. It's towny because most people don't see it as towny.
So WIFOM

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:36 pm
by Syryana
Hell I feel rustier now than I did playing Fate. I find myself in the unusual situation that Cabd described earlier, having a bunch of townreads but no real scumreads.

Admittedly that sort of happened in Fate but at least I had Lancer.

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:37 pm
by Bell
The last 4 pages are amazing.

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:37 pm
by midwaybear
In post 988, Syryana wrote:but no real scumreads.
Really huh

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:38 pm
by petapan
In post 970, Something_Smart wrote:I don't see anything in particular wrong with them. Can you elaborate?
haven't really cared for the tone. is like, okay he believes my self-description of my playstyle so he thinks i'm town? (even though i haven't really tunneled anyone yet). that followed by with him agreeing with me and with him preemptively suggesting rule of three makes me wary of being buddied. and then the way he goes from not liking the Nahdia push in to "You know what, I actually see it now" in is iffy.

(most recent time i disliked someone's tone they were town though so meh)

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:39 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 370, midwaybear wrote:
In post 350, The Bulge wrote: drop names :]
Jake and Pooky, maybe Taylor. We'll see though.
why Taylor? She hasn't acted in much of a way to make her an easy target imo.
In post 381, fferyllt wrote:
In post 379, midwaybear wrote:
In post 375, fferyllt wrote:The griping about RVS looked a little overdone.
How was it different from my own? That's probably the main reason I'm townreading him right now btw
You were working on stuff proactively. I felt like DS had to be pushed a little to get beyond complaining and into doing stuff about it. I liked his question to me, but his reason for townreading me really had no basis. We've played one game together and I think it was probably in 2016. He was scum and I was town (and in a hydra).

On another note do you remember how you and Lancer/Chara "scumread" me early in the FGO game. Any thoughts about the players expressing dislike of some of my posts here?
You're telling me Chara randed/picked Lancer there? That's honestly pretty funny.
In post 386, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 379, midwaybear wrote:
In post 375, fferyllt wrote:The griping about RVS looked a little overdone.
How was it different from my own? That's probably the main reason I'm townreading him right now btw
the fact that they were similar and you two are all buddy buddy makes me think youre scum even more.
I don't like the way Taylor interjected this. It wasn't initially addressed to her but it seems like she took the opportunity to take a potshot

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:40 pm
by Nahdia
In post 881, SirCakez wrote:Nahdia might also be scum here. Her posting earlier felt really forced and now she's been absent for most of today. Disengaged Nahdia does not make a town Nahdia.
i have a day job and it's Socially Distanced Game Night with pals. im lightly skimming here and there tho and i intend to be more present tomorrow.

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:42 pm
by petapan
In post 988, Syryana wrote:Hell I feel rustier now than I did playing Fate. I find myself in the unusual situation that Cabd described earlier, having a bunch of townreads but no real scumreads.

Admittedly that sort of happened in Fate but at least I had Lancer.
there's a bunch of players right now that are still question mark boxes. i don't have enough townreads to go "scum is in the inactives"

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:42 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 987, SirCakez wrote:So WIFOM
It would have to be a WIFOM play for it to be intentional from scum, which is unlikely, yes.

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:43 pm
by Cabd
In post 838, fferyllt wrote:GiF-style tiers
Do you feel like you have enough data yet?

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:43 pm
by Syryana
In post 990, midwaybear wrote:
In post 988, Syryana wrote:but no real scumreads.
Really huh
Really. I have a couple problems with Gamma and Diamond, but on reflection those problems arise less from me thinking they're scummy and more from a "I don't care for their playstyle" perspective. Which is, from an AI perspective, trash. There are a lot of people with few datapoints to them that bear more investigation.

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:44 pm
by fferyllt
In post 996, Cabd wrote:
In post 838, fferyllt wrote:GiF-style tiers
Do you feel like you have enough data yet?
I'm going to know in a bit!

Do you?

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:45 pm
by Bell
Should I sleep or should I write?
I can tell this game is going to be amazing now.