Still thuggin:
Pour some liquor for the homies:
Endgame: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 00#1844200
You win with the town.
Good question. Probably investigation immune, because it is about convincing the town I'm not the godfather. If I can do that, eventually, I'll likely not be targeted by the Vig and the SK, well, you gotta take your chances.The Fonz wrote: Lone Rogue: You're a Godfather. If the game has an SK, a one-shot vig, and a sane cop, would you rather be NK or investigation immune?
Oh, I already knew you were a good and resourceful player. I liked that gambit you pulled, too.The Fonz wrote:StrangerCoug: You've modded me a couple of times recently. What kind of insight did that give you into my play?
Synx wrote:Listen up The Fonz, I don't take crap from anybody especially people that start asking questions during the jokevote phase. So instead of answer to you I'm going to ask you a few things: what do you have against the random lynch/jokevote phase? Who is your scum buddy? What are you doing in my thread?
I expect an answer IMMEDIATELY.
It's not a scumtell, but it's important to know why he wants to jump right into the questioning. The jokevote phase has some importance, and it piques my curiosity that he wants to completely bypass it.strangercoug wrote: I'm going to let The Fonz answer for himself, but being against random voting is not a scumtell. Not random voting may turn heads, but it is not a scumtell. Some form of discussion has to be sparked, and asking people questions is a good way to do that. Way to be anti-information early on, not to mention that you come off as insolent.
Uhm, this is retarded. What are you even talking about? How is this even a conceivable response to this question. BP is the only answer.Lone Rogue wrote:Good question. Probably investigation immune, because it is about convincing the town I'm not the godfather. If I can do that, eventually, I'll likely not be targeted by the Vig and the SK, well, you gotta take your chances.The Fonz wrote: Lone Rogue: You're a Godfather. If the game has an SK, a one-shot vig, and a sane cop, would you rather be NK or investigation immune?
Synx wrote:Also, this is how I play, get used to it.
The Fonz wrote:I do not accept 'I always do it' as an excuse.Any action you take, I expect you to be able to justify why it raises the chances of a town win, or at the very least, DOES NOT harm it.
Please explain what this 'importance' is. Why does having a random stage benefit town? Does my asking questions prevent you from jokevoting, if that is your desire?Synx wrote:
It's not a scumtell, but it's important to know why he wants to jump right into the questioning. The jokevote phase has some importance, and it piques my curiosity that he wants to completely bypass it.
Are you serious??? For reference:The Fonz wrote:Synx wrote: Also, this is how I play, get used to it.The Fonz wrote: I do not accept 'I always do it' as an excuse.
Okay? I don't get what you are trying to point out considering you said that you made the same statement.The Fonz wrote: I policy lynch A LOT. I expect every player in the game to play in such a way as to make a town win more likely.
If you agree with me that it is not a scumtell, then why did you ask him for his scumbuddy? That implies you think he's scum for it since that's the only thing he's done.Synx wrote:It's not a scumtell, but it's important to know why he wants to jump right into the questioning. The jokevote phase has some importance, and it piques my curiosity that he wants to completely bypass it.strangercoug wrote: I'm going to let The Fonz answer for himself, but being against random voting is not a scumtell. Not random voting may turn heads, but it is not a scumtell. Some form of discussion has to be sparked, and asking people questions is a good way to do that. Way to be anti-information early on, not to mention that you come off as insolent.
And I can, if you wish, give you the game-theory explanation for why policy lynching is optimal for town. In short, that if the town are making scum-favouring moves, then it is easier for scum to make scum-favouring moves without standing out. This means that in towns who aren't willing to policy-lynch, more scum-favouring behaviour will happen overall, and hence obviously scum will be more likely to win.Synx wrote:Are you serious??? For reference:The Fonz wrote:Synx wrote: Also, this is how I play, get used to it.The Fonz wrote: I do not accept 'I always do it' as an excuse.
Okay? I don't get what you are trying to point out considering you said that you made the same statement.The Fonz wrote: I policy lynch A LOT. I expect every player in the game to play in such a way as to make a town win more likely.
Please elaborate on these 'connections.' (I would also note at this point that I disagree with breadcrumbing as a strategy, since scum are going to be just as much on the lookout for town players dropping role hints, if not more so, than the other protowners are).Random phase helps the town because it's often a good time to breadcrumb and it can point out some connections between players.
This basically reads to me as: "It's ok if I use 'it's how I play' as an excuse but not okay if anyone else does"TheFonz wrote: And I can, if you wish, give you the game-theory explanation for why policy lynching is optimal for town. In short, that if the town are making scum-favouring moves, then it is easier for scum to make scum-favouring moves without standing out. This means that in towns who aren't willing to policy-lynch, more scum-favouring behaviour will happen overall, and hence obviously scum will be more likely to win.
I think it's self explanatory.TheFonz wrote: Please elaborate on these 'connections.'
Wrong answer. He's explaining why he does what he does—there are game theory explanations behind it (and I'd like him to enlighten us with it as I feel it may be useful) and he believes that, by making it his playstyle, it will make him more likely to win. I play differently from The Fonz—for example, I'd rather lynch a lurker as a last resort since I believe replacements to be a useful asset—but that doesn't mean that since his playstyle differs from mine, he's scum. In fact, I'd like to improve my town play since I've lost as town (and been mislynched most of those times) more often than I've won.Synx wrote:This basically reads to me as: "It's ok if I use 'it's how I play' as an excuse but not okay if anyone else does"TheFonz wrote: And I can, if you wish, give you the game-theory explanation for why policy lynching is optimal for town. In short, that if the town are making scum-favouring moves, then it is easier for scum to make scum-favouring moves without standing out. This means that in towns who aren't willing to policy-lynch, more scum-favouring behaviour will happen overall, and hence obviously scum will be more likely to win.
IRCThe Fonz wrote:RL or irc?
Do you view RVS as justThe Fonz wrote:Please explain what this 'importance' is. Why does having a random stage benefit town? Does my asking questions prevent you from jokevoting, if that is your desire?