Kinmaker - Game Over

[Phate]

K

inmaker

Moderator:

Phate

Back-Up Mod:

Nikanor

Original Setup Idea:

Guardian

Players, Living:

(15/18)

DeathRowKitty
DrippingGoofball*
elvis_knits*
hohum
Locke Lamora
My Milked Eek
mykonian*
Netopalis
Shotty to the Body
sirdanilot
wolframnhart
Yankee
Yosarian2
Ythan*
Ythill*

Players, Dead:

McGriddle,

Roleblocker

, Modkilled D1.
ZazieR,

Townie

, Modkilled D1.
Albert B. Rampage,

Townie

, Lynched D1.

Players marked with an asterisk were recruited during pregame.

Setup

• The twelve players that sign up will be assigned roles via Fiasco's C9++ setup.
  
• During pregame, five town players and one Mafia player, chosen at random, will be given the opportunity to recruit players from outside the game to join their faction.
  
• The players will join as five townies and one mafioso (in other words, the basic role of the alignment of the player that recruited them).
  
• In the event of one C being rolled on the C9++ chart, the millers will be distributed after the players are recruited.
  
• Recruiting will be handled through the mod.
  
• Who recruited whom will not be public knowledge, nor will it be told to the recruited or the recruiter (though the recruiter obviously has a good idea who he or she recruited, depending on the names on the submitted list).

Rules

• This is a BaM ruleset game.
  
• Votes must be
  bolded
  and at the start of a line. If we don’t see it, we wont count it.
  
• Unvoting is nice, but not necessary.
  
• Once a majority is reached, that person is lynched.
  
• If there is no majority at deadline, there will be no lynch for that day.
  
• Day 1 will have an approximated deadline based on when the game starts – it will be no less than a week.
  All following days will have a deadline of 7 days.
  
  
• Nights will have 48 hours maximum. Any night actions not submitted will simply not happen – the thread should be open 48 hours following a deadline lynch.
  
• Do not talk about this game outside the thread unless your role allows you to.
  
• When you die, you are dead. Stay that way.
  
• Do not edit posts. Do not use invisible text. Do not use small text.
  
• Do not quote any communication from the mod (that includes PMs) in the game thread.
  
• f you are going to be gone for an extended period of time, please let me know.
  
• If you do not post for a full deadline game day you will be modkilled. Further, you will be blacklisted from any future games using the BaM ruleset. Keep in mind that there are no replacements in a BaM ruleset game.
  Mod Note: My interpretation of this ruleset allows replacement by request.
  
  
• If you notice mistakes aside from the vote count, PM me. Bold notification about vote count issues in the thread.
  
• Play to win.
  
• Play with the spirit of the game in mind.
  
• This means ASK before you do something you think I might question. Questions are good. Modkills are bad.
  
• Have fun. Remember that everyone playing are actually real people and treat them as such.
  
• Red
  is my color. Don’t use it.
  
• Night actions are determined using Natural Action Resolution.

[Phate]

Note: Color formatting is short-hand for alignment.

C9++, Current Best Shot Edition

12 players. Night start. No unusual mechanics. (But setup can be adapted to changes in any of this.) Roles are selected as follows:

First, generate 7 letters from the following distribution:

50% T
15% C
10% D
10% V
10% M
5% B

Then turn the letters into roles using the following tables. Probabilities are for 0 letters, 1 letter, etc.

C = sane cop + 3 millers (millerhood is distributed randomly among non-cop, non-scum, non-child)
CC = sane cop
CCC = sane cop + insane cop
CCCC = sane cop + sane cop
CCCCC = sane cop + sane cop + insane cop
CCCCCC = sane cop + sane cop + sane cop

(32%, 40%, 21%, 6%, 1%, .1%, .007%)

D = doc
DD = doc + backup doc
DDD = doc + doc
DDDD = doc + doc + backup doc
DDDDD = doc + doc + doc

(48%, 37%, 12%, 2%, .3%, .02%)

V = vig
VV = vig + one-shot vig
VVV = vig + vig
VVVV = vig + vig + one-shot vig
VVVVV = vig + vig + vig

(48%, 37%, 12%, 2%, .3%, .02%)

M = innocent child
MM = 2 masons
MMM = 2 masons + innocent child
MMMM = 3 masons
MMMMM = 2 masons + 2 masons

(48%, 37%, 12%, 2%, .3%, .02%)

B = blocker
BB = blocker + backup blocker
BBB = blocker + blocker
BBBB = blocker + blocker + backup blocker

(70%, 26%, 4%, .4%, .02%)

TTTTTTT = mafia goon + mafia godfather
TTTTTT = mafia goon + mafia godfather + serial killer (DI, BI)
TTTTT = mafia goon + mafia goon + mafia godfather
TTTT = mafia goon + mafia goon + mafia godfather + serial killer (DI, BI, KI)
TTT = mafia goon + mafia blocker + mafia godfather
TT = mafia goon + mafia blocker + mafia godfather + serial killer (DI, BI, CI, KI)
T = mafia spy + mafia blocker + mafia godfather
0 = mafia spy + mafia blocker + mafia godfather + serial killer (DI, BI, CI, KI, SI, RB)

(.8%, 5%, 16%, 27%, 27%, 16%, 5%, .8%; exactly 50% of all games have a serial killer)

Mafia GF appears to cops as a townie. Mafia Spy learns one targeted player's role type each night (T/C/D/V/M/B). (The SK can tell the mod how he wants to appear to the Spy; if the Spy investigates the SK, the SK is notified.)

DI = each kill bypasses single doc protect (but not more)
BI = bypasses single roleblock attempt each night (but not more)
KI = survives one kill attempt each night (but not more)
CI = appears to cops as a townie
SI = appears to mafia spy as desired
RB = has a roleblock ability usable once

No role can target itself.

All kills are indistinguishable.

The mafia and SK know their own abilities. Mafia and SK abilities, cop sanity, and millerhood are not revealed on death.

Last team standing wins. If everyone dies, SK wins or mafia and town draw.

You are a

Townie

!

Faction

:

Town

Win Condition

: You win when all living players are members of your faction and there is at least one living player, or nothing can prevent the same.

You are a

Cop

!

Actions

Role Actions

• Inspect
  - During each Night phase, you may choose one person to inspect. I will send you a PM that tells you if they are guilty or innocent. Submit this action by sending me a PM (Example:
  Inspect: Phate
  ).

Faction

:

Town

Win Condition

: You win when all living players are members of your faction and there is at least one living player, or nothing can prevent the same.

Mod Notes:

• This role PM is also sent to
  Insane Cops
  .
  Insane Cops
  secretly have the
  Insane
  role trait, which reads: "You receive opposite results as compared to the results a
  Cop
  would receive."
  
• If one C is rolled on the C9++ table, three players who are not cops, scum, or innocent children will receive the
  Miller
  trait, which reads "You will appear as a
  Mafioso
  to any
  Inspect
  actions that target you."

You are a

Doctor

!

Actions

Role Actions

• Protect
  - During each Night phase, you may choose one person to protect. The first kill made against your target will be negated. Submit this action by sending me a PM (Example:
  Protect: Phate
  ).

Faction

:

Town

Win Condition

: You win when all living players are members of your faction and there is at least one living player, or nothing can prevent the same.

You are a

Nurse

!

Traits

Role Traits

• Backup: Doctor
  - If a
  Doctor
  dies, you will become a
  Doctor
  . Your role PM will become identical to the
  Doctor
  role PM, above.

Faction

:

Town

Win Condition

: You win when all living players are members of your faction and there is at least one living player, or nothing can prevent the same.

You are a

Vigilante

!

Actions

Role Actions

• Kill
  - During each Night phase, you may choose one person to kill. Submit this action by sending me a PM (Example:
  Kill: Phate
  ).

Faction

:

Town

Win Condition

: You win when all living players are members of your faction and there is at least one living player, or nothing can prevent the same.

You are a

One-Shot Vigilante

!

Actions

Role Actions

• Kill
  - During each Night phase, you may choose one person to kill. Using this action will remove this action from your role. Submit this action by sending me a PM (Example:
  Kill: Phate
  ).

Faction

:

Town

Win Condition

: You win when all living players are members of your faction and there is at least one living player, or nothing can prevent the same.

You are an

Innocent Child

!

Traits

Role Traits

• Innocence
  - While you are in the game, other players will have the role trait
  Information: Innocent Child
  , which reads: "You know that xxxx is an Innocent Child."

Faction

:

Town

Win Condition

: You win when all living players are members of your faction and there is at least one living player, or nothing can prevent the same.

You are a

Mason

!

Traits

Group Traits

• Information: Mason Partner
  - Your mason partner
  [is|are] xxxx[ and yyyy]. If you are the only surviving mason, you lose this ability.
  
• Night Communication
  - You may communicate at the following link: <link> - if you are the only surviving mason, you lose this ability.

Faction

:

Town

Win Condition

: You win when all living players are members of your faction and there is at least one living player, or nothing can prevent the same.

[Ythan]

Hell yes.

vote Albert B. Rampage

[McGriddle]

Hell yes.

vote Albert B. Rampage

Vote: Ythan

for being in his 3rd game with me lol. And being a PITA in the first one haha. Although he did succeed, he certainly had me considering leaving mafiascum haha.

[Ythan]

Sorry about that. I don't want to scare anyone off.

[Shotty to the Body]

I've been thinking about this for a bit in pregame if we mass-claim the recruiters/recruited we have 12 players, 10 are confirmed town and only a pool of 6 that can be scum other than the mafia recruiter/recruited. I'm not sure how much scum we have, but 4 seems probable to me (given that 1/4 of players is generally scum) and we could catch half the scum-team in a pool of 6 players. Also from the way I read it the recruiters aren't necessarily vanilla so we don't out all of our PRs either.

I'd like to see what everyone else thinks of this plan.

[Ythan]

Recruiters and recruitees only share alignment right? And five of each are town, and five scum? There's still the issue of multiple folks recruiting the same person, I didn't understand how that resolves.

[Shotty to the Body]

6 players were recruited, 5 of them are town and 1 of them is mafia. It's possible the recruiters wouldn't know, but I assume they would be able to figure out if they all claimed their lists....

[My Milked Eek]

So the recruiters should claim they are recruiters and who they recruited? I was also contemplating this as well, but I wanted input from more players.

[Ythan]

Is anything to be lost in the recruiters claiming?

[My Milked Eek]

Nope, I don't think so. Might be beneficial in some cases.

I'm a recruiter and the first on my list got recruited: Ythill.
And he's the only one on my list who is recruited into the game, so I'm pretty sure Ythill is my recruit.

[Ythan]

How exactly did the recruiting work? Did you submit a list of players in the order you'd want them?

[My Milked Eek]

I submitted a list of five players and the mod did the recruiting. I think the order was important, but in my case it doesn't really matter.

[Ythan]

How many original players (not recruits) are likely to be scum compared to the 1/6 recruits?

[My Milked Eek]

2-3 non-recruited scum seems to be the most obvious answer.

[Ythan]

2/12 or 3/12. 1/12 is unlikely, and so the better bet statistically is on original players.

unvote vote DeathRowKitty

[Locke Lamora]

Sounds like the recruitment claim could be worth a shot.

Vote: mykonian

For lynching me in endgame last time we played

[Ythan]

I actually have a little notepad of the original players narrowed down to those likely to have recruited me. Guess that was a waste of time.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I have a feeling I'm going to mix up Ythan and Ythill all game long.

Vote Ythan

[Ythan]

I don't think anyone in this game will be confusing me with anyone else.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You will eat those words when Ythill steals your avatar

[Ythan]

Albert B. Rampage

DeathRowKitty

DrippingGoofball

elvis_knits

hohum
Locke Lamora
McGriddle

My Milked Eek

mykonian

Netopalis
Shotty to the Body
sirdanilot
wolframnhart
Yankee
Yosarian2

Ythan

Ythill

ZazieR

Staying organized.

[My Milked Eek]

Can't we be green instead? Red is such a scum's color.

[Ythan]

Color coding. Each pair will be different.

[Ythan]

Also, I think it only necessary for each recruiter to reveal their first recruit. If there is conflict then reveal your second. I assume this is how the mod did it. If there's any confusion we can deal with it when we get there.