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So that's VV's case on you?VasudeVa wrote:Plum wrote:Teh Plume case:
1.) ReaperCharles in the "Town alliance of AWESOEM" very early in the game but then quickly disappeared here with very little mention.
2.) SpyreX in the keep an eye on list, but little mention of SpyreX before hand.
3.) Despite having SpyreX in the 'keep an eye on' list, she was still planning out murders with SpyreX here which is...odd.
4.) Random Spy vs. Plum moments that seemed to appear out of nowhere and wasn't even valid to any discussion at that time. These, by all means, donotlook like genuine Townie interactions at all. Hell, they don't even look like scum-Town interactions.
5.) Appearing only when mentioned, opportunistically voting for MoI and El Goo
Spy, why does everyone hate you today?
Seacore, why? Please tell me in your own words."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Damn. That sounds like a pretty definite meta point. You should lynch me or murder me or something.Benmage wrote:I've jumped at replacements before to get them to claim info and have only been met with resistance by scum.
Or, you could explain why.
Or, you could live with me doing my reading first and my claiming second."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Lazy, useless town are the types that follow immediately when something is asked of them. By waiting, I was actually able to read the rules and make sure that there wasn't a benefit to me keeping my insanity count to myself. In other words, there might be no reason NOT to, but there's also no reason to just take him for his word.
For the record, my count is 0. I'd also like to say that these sorts of things are very... misleading. It wouldn't take much to look in the QT or the thread for your claimed insanity count if scum.Seacore wrote:Declaring all of your insanities - We have all declared all of our insanities, both quantity and quality. I wanted you to do this immediately so you didn't have time, as scum, to work out your best option of claims. I wanted a time stamped very fast claim. This has passed. I still want you to do this, but opportunity for towny points have been lost.
Then I'll wait until tomorrow to do it? I'm not putting Percy through unnecessary torture.Seacore wrote:The voting test - We have all done this and I still want you to do this. There are three insanities that cause voting limitations. Depending on your interpretation of the OP, breaking the same insanitiy rule twice may cause you to be modkilled. My voting script I have asked you to complete tests all three twice. Everybody has already done this excluding your slot. Tomorrow I will have a better script that will enable everybody to be properly tested, as it currently stands, Benmage and Hito were probably not effectively tested, by being the two token targets, but I'm confident they aren't cult."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I didn't think he was asking me something negative. I didn't know if he was asking me to do the smartest thing. If you think things out instead of simply complying, you might find something that everyone else missed; that's the fun of this setup. It's no fun just to follow every damn thing people tell you. You of all people should know this, since I can probably guarantee you didn't ask anyone before you murdered, did you?Benmage wrote:Do you think a player would ask you to do something negative? If this was the case, wouldn't the rest of us town call out that player? Throw the book at them? Scum with something to hide and make sure they don't slip are the only ones to delay yielding information. And I am voting you on that premise alone tomorrow. GL, if I didn't already attempt to kill one cult, I'd be killing you another cult.
Percy sent the PM 50 minutes before I checked in at the thread. That's plenty of time for pertinent reading; all attempts to confirm me either way were null and void when I didn't check in after, oh, five minutes.Benmage wrote:And to counter. The reason to take him for his word, other than there being no reason not to, is the reason that scum would want to make sure they aren't slipping up in a town trap. Like I said, I've setup scum like this before. It may be a sketchy method of catching scum but its damn effective and after you fall for it once, you bet your ass you check your role pm the QT and anything pertinent before checking into a thread the next time you replace in as scum.
Seacore, how do you expect to catch scum if we test the voting insanities every day?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Fair enough.
Vote: Andrius Unvote
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Vote:hitorogoshi Unvote
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Nothing, and no.VP wrote:@Nacho - What is your experience with SAII? Have you read any portion of that game?
I played in SAI, but I replaced in there, too, and didn't really get involved."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Other than the obvious? Well, I have a bit of a gut scumread on Trilobite, but other than that, not really.AV wrote:Nacho; any scumreads you'd care to share?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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VP, I told you you'll see the post before the end of the day. You will. It's hard motivating myself to make big long posts in this game like convincing you all I'm not crazy, so I'm in the process of procrastinating. If you wanted the post immediately, then, well... you should've told me that."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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VPB, I just would explain why in the big post. I'll be deeper into the game by then, and I'll probably give you a better answer by then.
Iec on that scumlist is part of it.
The "let's lynch someone else since kunk is voting TNM" is another part of it."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Votecount 1:
3 scum in: {Triglav, Seacore, AurorusVox, kunk, Feyesal, hito}
1 scum in: {Plum, totallynotmafia, Trilobite}
1 scum in: {VasudeVa, VP Baltar, Andrius}
Iecerint is town.
Votecount 2:
3 scum in: {Trilobite, VP Baltar, hitogoroshi, Plum, AurousVox, Andrius, Iecrint}
3 scum in: {totallynotmafia, Nicodemus, Triglav, Feysal, Seacore, kunk, VV}
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Slacking is slacktastic.
I have to edit my post a little bit because of REVELATIONS over the night, but it won't be a 5 day delay in coming like last time >.>"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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There's a surprising lack of scum on the ReaperCharlie wagon. There's at a minimum one scum in {Triglav, kunk, Feyesal}, most likely two. Triglav has, by far, the strongest position on that wagon, so I'm betting Feyesal-kunk-Andy are our scum on the RC wagon.Percy wrote:Vote Count
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(Triglav,ReaperCharlie - 11,Seacore,MagnaofIllusion,xvart, kunkstar7, Feysal, nopointinactingup,AurorusVox,Furpants_Tom,hitorogoshi,Benmage)Andrius
(Benmage - 6,Fate,Wraith, manho,Baby Spice)SpyreX
(Seacore - 4,Plum, Trilobite,totallynotmafia)Wickedestjr
xvart - 2(,El Goosuki)ReaperCharlie
MagnaofIllusion - 1(, VasudeVa)Furcolow
Bowser - 1()Lost Butterfly
Lost Butterfly - 1(VP Baltar)
Not Voting - 1 (Bowser)
With 28 alive, 15 votes secures a Lynch.
This means that there are two scum off the wagon. I'm willing to clear manho pretty much completely based on the Benmage wagon, so that's that.
Trilobite is on a wagon with a lot of townies. Scum positioning here...
I find VV's switch to Benmage while wagon is in full swing then switch back to MoI when wagon is attacked pretty damn suspect, so he's looking like a decent chance for scum.
There's not much to gain out of VP or Bowser's positioning.
We learn considerably less this votecount.Vi wrote:Vote Count
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(Trilobite, VP Baltar,MagnaofIllusion - 13,Benmage,hitogoroshi,Plum,El Goosuki,Baby Spice,AurorusVox,MagnaofIllusion, Iecerint,SpyreX,Andrius, VasudeVa)Furcolow
(kunkstar7 - 5,totallynotmafia,Wickedestjr, nopointinactingup, Nicodemus)Furpants_Tom
(Triglav, Feysal,Baby Spice - 4,Seacore)xvart
(kunkstar7,El Goosuki - 2)Wraith
With 25 alive, 13 votes secures a Lynch.
For the record, I'm counting VasudeVa as being on the MoI bandwagon because he only unvoted so he could hammer. I'm thinking that we're going to find a fair amount of scum sitting on that MoI wagon, especially if we're right about kunk, considering the two counterwagons were on scum. I also think we won't find more than one scum on each counterwagon. Right now, I'd judge one or even two more scum on the MoI wagon, leaving two or three to be off it.
If there's two more scum on the MoI wagon, they're Trilobite and VV, no doubt.
And they're two partners off the wagon would most likely be kunk and Nicodemus. Kunk wanting to stay off the wagon makes sense if five of his buddies are on the wagon, and his Goosuki vote is probably a result of not wanting to vote either his buddy. The Nicodemus vote offering support for the MoI wagon without jumping on it, and he overjustifies voting MoI over kunk pretty badly.
If there's one scum on the MoI wagon, the choice gets a bit more difficult. I'd pick Trilo over VV though, since VV was pushing MoI way, way early. Plus the whole "I want the hammer" thing is definitely indicative of townie who thinks they've pegged scum and thus they want the final blow.
Third buddy would be Feyesal, for not really commenting a whole lot on Baby Spice despite voting her. Triglav's wagon push was half-hearted, but at least he gave his reasons.
I'm betting 3 more scum on the Goosuki wagon, probably Trilo, kunk, and Feyesal.Vi wrote:Vote Count
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(El Goosuki - 12, Trilobite,Wraith,SpyreX,hitorogoshi, kunkstar7,Baby Spice,Seacore, VP Baltar, Feysal,AurorusVox,Plum)SUICIDAL
(SpyreX - 3, VasudeVa,Benmage)Andrius
(Nicodemus - 2,Furcolow)El Goosuki
(Benmage - 1)totallynotmafia
(nopointinactingup)Feysal - 1
(kunkstar7 - 1)Wickedestjr
Not Voting (4) - (Iecerint, Nicodemus, Triglav,)xvart
With 23 alive, 12 votes secures a Lynch.
VV is town as hell based on this votecount alone.
Nico is way more probscum than Triglav.
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Iecerint and VV are town as hell.
Remaining scum are kunk, Trilo, Feyesal, and Nico. I could probably go further, but the past two lynches have been 'player x is obvscum, lynch him', and whether scum decided to bus or not at those points probably only depended on when they got online, so I don't see much coming from those."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Re: Nico:
I'm surprised that I'm the only one who's expressing a little doubt over the whole Nico situation. He successfully ressed someone who wasn't supposed to be able to die in the first place, and just happened to be passed a fetish the day he was communed...
I'm sorry, but has anything that convenient ever happened in ANY Stars Aligned game between two town?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Does this mean that you find Nicodemus to be town for Baby Spice pushing him during the SpyreX lynch?Trilobite wrote:The same day these two posts were made, Spy was being run up, a confirmed cult. If we are cult with him that means we tried to deflect from the Spy wagon to the Andrius wagon another one of our buddies. It also means when we could have gotten towncred for bussing Spy (who was going down no matter what) we chose instead to expose Andrius and his commune plan which has lead to him being outed scum.
Not really. Once TNM makes a kill, he's done with. He can't murder again. Leaving VPB alive means that the town either has to lynch him to be rid of him, or get someone else to murder him and take away their one-shot vig.Feyesal wrote:Did I miss something? If I did not, then VP Baltar still being alive is suspicious like hell. I can't think up a scenario where it would be beneficial for the cult to resuscitate him if he was town. Since hitogoroshi was ritual killed, the cult can't have ritualled and resuscitated him either to cover for totallynotmafia being unable to actually murder.
Link me to them.Feyesal wrote:Something he missed was that I did indeed give reasons for my suspicion on Baby Spice, I just did not do it in the post where I voted her, since at 6 AM I was much too tired to start writing another case, like I explained back then.
And yet, all this time later, the only person who's bringing up anything against him is me, how many days later? Why do you think that scum would be willing to let such a lurky mislynch option go so easily?Feyesal wrote:Then there is Nicodemus. I actually believe he is town, and I think I've guessed how yesterday's events came to happen. First, I communed totallynotmafia, and explained that I chose him because I had only two viable choices who should have no insanities, and I had a town read on VasudeVa. The cult may have predicted I would commune Nicodemus the following night, due to a similar process of elimination, and threw a fetish at Nicodemus for me to find. The cult would certainly keep track of which townies had Occult Books, and who they were likely to target. This would have the dual purpose of costing me my Occult Books, and framing Nicodemus, so he would be mislynched. Then the whole thing went south when Nicodemus unexpectedly resuscitated Seacore, who was supposed to be safe from the ritual. I imagine that must've been a nasty surprise for the cult, losing their nightkill and their intended mislynch option.
Now throw Feyesal into that entire situation.Seacore wrote:On Nacho's Nico comments.
Yes, it's convenient that Nico ressed me, someone who would only be in danger if the cult had crafted two fetishes of me, and then passed me one to make me look out of danger.
On the flip side of that. That means that cult took two fetishes of me, gave me one, then killed me and had one of their cultists rez me. That's 4 actions to make one perosn look town and waste a kill.
So I think it's a null tell personally.
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Benmage wrote:XVARTROB HITO I'll Do the other TWO...Get a res kit tonight.
*Nachostalk xvart.
***Nacho and Ice can still be stalked....Seacore wrote:Sigh, you shit me Ben,
For days I've been trying to discuss the plan and you've been nowhere. There are reasons I don't want the stalkers and stalkees muddled up and you've gone and messed that up.
Fine, go with Benmage's additions. I'm not going to confuse it further by arguing.
If the graverob gets botched because xvart doesn't check back in, it's your fault Ben.Nachomamma8 wrote:BUT IM STALKING XVART
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The irony in this makes me smile.VasudeVa wrote:Nacho is looking like scum at this point. He probably is claiming that stalk on xvart to hide that extra insanity from the greater ritual. No fucking way town would stalk confirmed Town xvart today for the lulz. He's hiding behind his 'I'm not reading the thread' shit."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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If we're not lynching kunkstar, we're lynching one of me/Feyesal.
It's importative we lynch scum today, and Feyesal is almost certainly scum based on REVELATIONS."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Actions:
N0: Search: Res Kit
N1: Res: Wicked
N2: Launder
N3: Search: Occult Books
N4: Search: Res Kit
N5: Res: VPB
N6: Cower
N7: Stalk: xvart
N8: Res: Iec
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the cult just decided to give everyone an insanity and kill the person with the lowest amount of them. I don't know what Trilo is talking about, Pass Fetish is an individual action just like everything else. Meaning an individual can pass up to three fetishes."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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