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Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:41 am

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Mina are you scum?

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Post Post #17 (isolation #1) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:13 pm

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You should probably be voting Sens.
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Post Post #25 (isolation #2) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:45 pm

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Mina why aren't you voting SensFan?
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Post Post #28 (isolation #3) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:51 pm

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Twitching that much is a town tell, fyi.
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Post Post #30 (isolation #4) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:56 pm

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Mina wrote:
Faraday wrote:Mina why aren't you voting SensFan?

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He's probably scum.
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Post Post #35 (isolation #5) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:03 pm

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Mina wrote:
You voted before his first post in the game. Did you figure out his alignment by precognition?

Yes.
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Post Post #39 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:36 pm

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Note the lack of bolding.
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Post Post #52 (isolation #7) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:59 am

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Unvote
, this makes Sensfan's first post make a fair bit more sense.

Sens: Minasuki is town.

Kats, if you're still around is what Sens saying a fairly accurate summation of what went on in the neighbour qt?
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Post Post #54 (isolation #8) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:48 am

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can i be a fake mason too?
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Post Post #58 (isolation #9) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:26 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:It's a little early to discount Mina/Kats as scum IMO.

Nah, not really. Mina wouldn't go 'I'm a renegade' as scum in response to my question, she'd probably have given me a serious answer, I think.


Bert is town, nigh on confirmed btw.
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Post Post #60 (isolation #10) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:09 am

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She's town. It also means you can't policy lynch katsuki, but I hope you can live with that.
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Post Post #66 (isolation #11) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:54 am

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It's not even like Mina's particularly hard to read, guys.
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Post Post #67 (isolation #12) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:55 am

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Oh, V/la from the 11th to ??? for Dance with dragons/
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Post Post #87 (isolation #13) » Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:14 pm

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Post Post #123 (isolation #14) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:47 am

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Mina wrote:You are utterly despicable for trying that, Fate.

Minaa wuld literally not say this as scum i am sure
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Post Post #124 (isolation #15) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:51 am

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Mina wrote:
UNVOTE: Dripping Goofball, since both Kats and I like her recent posts. We're having a board meeting on where to move it to. Pretty sure there's one scum on our wagon, but I could follow Ether on Kise/TBM. I'm kind of leery of Faraday, because I feel like there's no passion behind his play so far (he's just going through the motions and bandwagon-hopping), and his defence of me feels halfhearted--like he's trying his typical, "Oh, I'm clearing Mina on page one" move, but doesn't actually care that I'm getting wagoned.

im pretty apathetic towards playing mafia in general atm and really didnt want this game to start so soon
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Post Post #125 (isolation #16) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:53 am

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Did you catch her during pre-pre-game neighbor chat?

you should vote tbm for great justice
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Post Post #127 (isolation #17) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:07 am

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blackberrt are u as easy to read as in f2f? you're prob town anyway.
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Post Post #129 (isolation #18) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:29 am

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well hes confirmed town anyway so its okay.
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Post Post #135 (isolation #19) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:10 am

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Fate wrote:
Mina scum would definitely be mad at me if I used less than spicable methods to catch her.

She'd be mad, but not go as far as to call you 'utterly despicable'.
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Post Post #144 (isolation #20) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:55 am

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Fate wrote:Faraday if you're town you get to hand over your "icanreadsmina" card to me.

I'll most certainly hand it over if she ever flips scum. But she won't. She's town.


Also Vit's list is good posting. Sensfan's opening looks townish too, and Mini is confirmed so.
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Post Post #149 (isolation #21) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:20 am

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Ether wrote:
You know that TBM's lied about this game at least once to get away with lurking. Right?

Ooh. Even better. I'd have guessed his first, the 'this is open?' thing looked fake anyway.
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Post Post #159 (isolation #22) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:16 pm

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Scum TBM would totally play the lurker.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:08 am

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This whole catching dragging the mod into the game thing makes me uncomfortable. I mean I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth, but at the same time it feels kinda cheap.
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Post Post #208 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:56 am

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TheButtonmen wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:Fate has been playing strangely.


Fate is being far more serious then he normally is early D1 / while fake claiming, the complete lack of flippancy during his claim, follow through convinced me he wasn't up to his normal stuff at all.

But if you think he's telling the truth why aren't you voting Minasuki?


The Mina wagon is fucking retarded, she's pretty obviously town from like her first posts in the game and TBM needs to die.
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Post Post #209 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:57 am

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[quote="Kise"]
So Faraday is scum too. The quick succession of jovial posts where page 5 bleeds into page 6 (#126 included) avoid the big issue. Your scumhunting rifle looks empty to me./quote]
I'd been drinking, but fate's obviously lying about the mason thing, I mean come on.
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Post Post #212 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:02 pm

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Lost Butterfly wrote:No wat. I realised, but it doesn't matter, Mina's town before LOLMASONS and after it. Her reactions shoulda made it obvious to everyone.


Sorry, this is me, (obviously not Mina)
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Post Post #221 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:35 pm

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Uh, I don't believe Faraday has any magical Mina-reading skills, just fyi.

I think I'm more likely to read her correctly than anyone here, but yeah not 'magical' it's both knowing her meta + knowing her.
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Post Post #228 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:41 pm

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Have you ever caught her as scum, Faraday?

Yeah, in a marathon game recently. other than that I think I've 'caught' her once, (well she was on my 'need to die list' in defcon), and got fooled by her offsite in a game.

She's nearly always been town when we've played together.
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Post Post #229 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:44 pm

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tanstalas wrote:
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Have you ever caught her as scum, Faraday?


In addendum to this, can you list the games where you have played with her where you were on opposite teams? (could be town vs 3rd party, scum vs 3rd party, etc) just where you guys didn't have the same win-con.

metamafia and defcon 2, other than that just an offsite game.
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Post Post #230 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:48 pm

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Oh and hydra mafia, but I ignore that as it was a disaster on every account.

It's more that I can usually spot her when she's obvtown, there are things she just doesn't do as scum, I think, the best example is the 'despicable' line, I can't ever see Minascum saying anything like that.
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Post Post #232 (isolation #31) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:50 pm

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tanstalas wrote:What about "Of Gods and Men"?

That too, but I kinda blank that out, due to the sour note the ending left in my mouth.
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Post Post #237 (isolation #32) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:02 pm

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tanstalas wrote:Now, I didn't read that game, and not going to, damn that was a long game, but a few people in this game were in that game. Just skimming your posts in that game where you mentioned Mina, it seems almost the same as the tone I get from this game. In that game you were cult and Mina was town correct?

Would you say that the tone between that game and this game regarding Mina is similar? Anyone else in that game that is in this game care to comment? (Fate, Nikanor, ABR)?

wat you're not even gonna read it lol. I don't think my tone was similar, but I don't have a clue as i don't remember day 1 of that game and missed most of day 2 due to a death. Why did you pick that one where I was cult who was ya know...scumhunting as opposed to actually taking a more recent example like metamafia anyway?
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Post Post #240 (isolation #33) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:10 pm

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tanstalas wrote:
@Faraday - I just randomly grabbed games and looked at playerlists for Mina in the game as well and found that game then I asked you, and noticed you had not mentioned that game, which made me ISO you and focus just on where you mentioned mina as A)You weren't on the same team and B)You failed to mention that game

I also forgot that game at goofbash, in fact I told ABR I'd never played with him (ABR and Mina can verify that btw). We were neighbours that game too, which made it even easier to read her. I mean the fact is I read her correctly there, also, so I guess I don't see your point as to
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Post Post #245 (isolation #34) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:31 pm

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Hey Mina all the cool kids are on the TBM wagon. You wanna be a cool kid too right?

(also calm down)
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Post Post #248 (isolation #35) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:39 pm

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
Did she do "things she just doesn't do as scum" in the game she fooled you?

Well no, but she bussed her buddy so hard I had her as confirmed town for pretty much all the game untill I was lynched as I didn't think she bussed.

I thought I had her to die in Defcon via POE, but catching town is probably more important than catching scum there anyway.
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Post Post #250 (isolation #36) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:43 pm

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tanstalas wrote:@Faraday - You say you can read Mina well, does the reverse hold true? Can she read you better than most?

She can read me offsite, but not on mafiascum due to my playstyle here.
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Post Post #252 (isolation #37) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:52 pm

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:P.S. Interesting that you called her *twitch*ing a town tell here.

Well that was mostly me being facetious, I just thought her first post looked townish.
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Post Post #254 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:07 pm

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tanstalas wrote:With the underlined that she was not scum.

I think stuff like that's more likely to come from town.
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Post Post #262 (isolation #39) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:31 pm

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tanstalas wrote:
The people on the TBM wagon are not giving me good vibes, not that they are giving me bad vibes either, everyone on that wagon is null to me, except Faraday. I know he said he is apathetic to this game, but really look at him in ISO, he has done no scumhunting this game, and the majority of his posts just say Mina is town. I think she probably is town, and is hoping by saying she is town, if she flips he can go back and say that he was right and give himself some town-cred.

i don't think anyone gives credit for people being right on a town flip.

i don't see how i've done no scumhunting, i mean there's already like 8? people i think are pretty town.

ether, mina, blackberry, dgb, minineko (confirmed), sens and fate. vit's thought process seems to match my own for the most part so far too.
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Post Post #270 (isolation #40) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:02 pm

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You're right, but I don't think that's an alignment tell for me DGB.

I'm going to be V/la from now for Dance!
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Post Post #322 (isolation #41) » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:35 pm

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hate to be that guy but i've requested replacement. i don't really wanna play mafia atm.

some stuff before i go:
minineko is town; when i originally checked the game thread there were 15 players, even the op says 15, not sure when he was added, but it was him that was added and i think that makes him more likely town.

mina's obvtown. fate is also fairly obvtown. sens is townish. ether is town. vit looks good. dgb too.

i don't really have any strong scum reads just lots of townish reads, tbm dancing around the mina wagon looks like scum unsure how to handle it to me.
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Post Post #323 (isolation #42) » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:36 pm

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actually stall it on that replacement request, had a slightly better solution for short term.
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Post Post #329 (isolation #43) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:59 am

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faraday/reck hydra (to be named) replaces faraday.
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Post Post #337 (isolation #44) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:32 am

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
Irish Carbomb wrote:Faraday also just informed me of two things over AIM: #1 that Neko is confirmedtown due to mod error/slip up

Wait, that was serious?

Yes.
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Post Post #435 (isolation #45) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:47 am

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no i'm gonna shoot mina instead, cos ya know shooting townies is good and stuff. (well yeah, duh?)
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Post Post #436 (isolation #46) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:48 am

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TheButtonmen wrote:
xRECKONERx wrote:TBM -- scum for pussyfooting around Mina's wagon & sheeping Fate so easily


So I simultaneously pussyfooted around the Mina wagon not sheeping Fate and sheeped Fate so easily both at the same time eh?

don't worry too much about it.
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Post Post #438 (isolation #47) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:49 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Unvote


I want Faraday to savor how much worse his situation got after Reck replaced in LOL

oh, go fuck yourself.
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Post Post #449 (isolation #48) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:03 am

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Unvote, Vote IrishCarbomb


maybe tomorrow you'll be less retarded.
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Post Post #450 (isolation #49) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:03 am

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Shoot Thebuttonmen
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Post Post #452 (isolation #50) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:05 am

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whatever i've no interest in mafia in general but my town reads are decent. kill off my non town reads and maybe you'll actually be more fucking competent tomorrow. tbm scum flip should help.
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Post Post #454 (isolation #51) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:06 am

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tanstalas wrote:Are you fucking kidding me?

WTFBBQSAUCE - Why would you self hammer if you are town?

i'm not willing to deal with garbage any longer. everyone was gonna sheep fate. best we let this fucking cancerous day die now and we'll still get scumtbm dead.
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Post Post #456 (isolation #52) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:07 am

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but tans, you're convinced we're scum anyway. why are you even asking 'if you're town'?
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Post Post #457 (isolation #53) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:08 am

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Katsuki wrote:ALSO RECK IT WAS NICE SEEING YOU.

GOOFBASH > RECKONING SINCE I CAN'T MAKE IT ANYHOW.

sheep my reads tomorrow and ignore fate!
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Post Post #467 (isolation #54) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:13 am

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tanstalas wrote:
And stop gambiting, you know that wasn't a hammer, Faraday.

i'm not. i'm just going by what reck said on AIM.
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Post Post #582 (isolation #55) » Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:33 am

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You've already said the sexy people are voting TBM, this makes it obvious we're there too.
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Post Post #645 (isolation #56) » Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:19 am

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Fate wrote:Recks playing too well, he's got too many people fooled. I was only bussing cuz of faradays play

Towns fucked.

God damn it stop giving it away. You knew I was supposed to play like this, it was all arranged pre-game, was gonna be another fucking Agressive Mind Games and you'd coast.
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Post Post #663 (isolation #57) » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:49 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Yeah RECK is scum.

Nah, I read our role PM we're town.
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Post Post #699 (isolation #58) » Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:30 am

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VitaminR wrote:
xRECKONERx wrote:
Vote: SensFan


He hopped on the Mina/Katsuki wagon and sat there until the wagon COMPLETELY died off and he was the last person left, then hopped to the next most convenient wagon, me/Faraday. He then did the same thing, sitting on our wagon until he was the last person left and everyone else had died off, then quickly speedwagoned Fate with everybody else. The whole "Irish Carbomb feels town" to "Irish Carbomb is scum with Fate" conversion just reeks.

Yeah, SensFan is scum. Join us.

What does Faraday think of this?

TBM wagon has no support for some reason, Sensfan is a good option now. Join it?
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Post Post #815 (isolation #59) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:11 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Fate is town.

Where's Mina?

Katsuki has destroyed all of Mina's credibility with one post.

I could lynch that player slot in a heartbeat.

uh, no. katsuki's trolling fate. it doesn't make Mina LESS town.
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Post Post #816 (isolation #60) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:12 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:I should probably get up a would-and-wouldn't-lynch list at some point today

i'll be around later, where i might even re-read some stuff
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Post Post #1375 (isolation #61) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:41 am

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wtf is this no nightkill shit about
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Post Post #1376 (isolation #62) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:42 am

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hey vit! vote sens for gret justice
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Post Post #1378 (isolation #63) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:44 am

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SensFan wrote:
dramonic wrote:
SensFan wrote:I will be assuming that every single person who posted with a chance to hammer either of Sens/IC is Scum or
has mod-confirmed proof that both of the above are Town.
That line about the escape route <<

Oh, I get it. You just never learned how to read English in your French schools. That explains how you could think "You guys better fucking get a lynch on me or the guy who you think will Vengekill me" is me making an escape route.

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Post Post #1510 (isolation #64) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:05 pm

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STOP ANSWERING QUESTIONS. I'M TOO FUCKING BAD AT THIS GAME TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND LOGICALLY.
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Post Post #1626 (isolation #65) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:50 am

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Katsuki wrote:It's not standard to give guilty results on traitors is it?

I thought it was. Not sure.
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Post Post #1627 (isolation #66) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:54 am

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Katsuki wrote:
Irish Carbomb wrote:\we don't need walls!


You'll break Mina's heart!
It's like saying alcohol shouldn't exist!

You realise Mina has only been pretending to like them all along to keep up her human disguise? :/
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Post Post #1630 (isolation #67) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:53 pm

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GREAT WALL OF CHINA
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Post Post #1632 (isolation #68) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:54 pm

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INB4 SOMEONE WENT TO THE SHOPS AND I AM LYNCHED.

RIGHT MINA? RIGHT?

;_;
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Post Post #1633 (isolation #69) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:56 pm

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tanstalas wrote:I'm scum?

I was on the Nikanor and ABR wagons both. I pushed for an ABR lynch for the longest time. I was not on the Sensfan mislynch.

I'm thinking Dram or Mina is scum at this point

i will re-read nikanor wagon but i'm assuming someone bussed him. tbh i don't get the impression abr was ever LIKELY to be lynched and his response to you was just kinda...idk it feels off.

what do you think of minininininininieko.

i'd be interested in hear why minabear is scum tho'
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Post Post #1634 (isolation #70) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:56 pm

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omg wtf LINKS in quotes???
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Post Post #1637 (isolation #71) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:38 pm

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just gonna throw it out there but


:eek:
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Post Post #1638 (isolation #72) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:38 pm

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@ tans last post
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Post Post #1702 (isolation #73) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:00 pm

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Hey can you link me to some of your scum games.

You pick. Also fuck you for not having a wiki! :P
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Post Post #1705 (isolation #74) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:20 pm

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ty
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Post Post #1759 (isolation #75) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:38 pm

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IGNORE THAT BIT THEN

(though the flipped pr's we've had have all been quite powerful)
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Post Post #1766 (isolation #76) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:15 pm

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i've only ever bussed a scumpartner once, which was metamafia and i only do it if i can ensure it makes me look good for the rest of the game.

had i been scum here i'd probably have tried to get mini lynched yesterday as there was support from tbm/kats/and vit too, iirc.


also are you REALLY fucking saying a 2-shot cop with a guilty wouldn't claim? that's stupid tans and even trying to spin it as that is terrible. what happened to your vca which cleared us?

also you keep saying mini and mini...i assume one is mina but i've no idea which, mina/kats are your possible scumread?
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Post Post #1767 (isolation #77) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:17 pm

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Minineko wrote:Reply to #1757

IC, you're trying to take my actions and figure out why they all make sense from a scum perspective. The thing is- even if they do, they also make sense from a town one. This sort of analysis works when you conclude that these actions/posts *make no sense as town* - not when they simply *are plausible for scum*. The only solid argument I have heard is if I am protecting Mina every night why am I not dead? Sadly, only the scum can answer that... it would make sense if Mina were scum but that's pretty obviously not the case.

a) I voted Kise for voting Nikanor because his reasons were terrible.

b) The DGB lynch *was* terrible, and really fast. I completely missed it. Are you saying the DGB lynch wasn't terrible? Of course you're not- so what's the problem with me saying it?

c) It does kinda read like a bus, I'll admit, but it isn't one. Do my votes on the other two scums + traitor look like buses too?

d) I legitimately forgot the ability. Awful, I know. What would motivate me, as scum, to make that claim? The fact that I brought that up myself kinda wifom's it, but there's nothing else to say here.

Then there's this part:
Remember back in B how he defended VitR as town, then in C said that us/Mina/dram were obvtown? He had to bus his buddy (ABR's lynch was inevitable) which left him with tans and VitR as possible lynches… but oops, VitR was town via Buttons, which means he HAS to push tanstalas today… which he's clearly doing.


Except, I'm not scum, and tans is still the logical choice. It's him by elimination.

Note his last line, though -- he's casting suspicion back on his "obvtown" read of dram. Which, by the way, first he says dram is town due to CokeDeity calling him town, THEN he says dram is town because we called him town, and now he's setting dram up as a second mislynch after tanstalas flips town. He had backed himself into a corner by declaring us/Mina/dram town, then the daycop result on VitR fucked up his plans. Now he's having to go back on the dramtown read (which he changed his reasoning for TWICE already), and he's doing this before tans is even lynched, as if he knows what's going to happen.


I don't think dram is scum. I was asked who my top picks are. Obv tans is #1, #2 is a lot more difficult, but dram is the town read I have that I am the least confidant of, that's all...

some of this reads genuine.

btw i think the vote on bb is useless as everyone should have been calling for his blood. useless in terms of analysing anyway.

last part actually makes sense too. okay going to sleep i don't know.

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see part of me thinks mini scum would be trying to cast some suspicion on mina right now? or us? but it's like he's not. and while he has been calling us town he can easily justify a switch. it doesn't feel like scum play almost in some ways.
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Post Post #1768 (isolation #78) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:17 pm

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Minineko wrote:Reply to #1757

IC, you're trying to take my actions and figure out why they all make sense from a scum perspective. The thing is- even if they do, they also make sense from a town one. This sort of analysis works when you conclude that these actions/posts *make no sense as town* - not when they simply *are plausible for scum*. The only solid argument I have heard is if I am protecting Mina every night why am I not dead? Sadly, only the scum can answer that... it would make sense if Mina were scum but that's pretty obviously not the case.

a) I voted Kise for voting Nikanor because his reasons were terrible.

b) The DGB lynch *was* terrible, and really fast. I completely missed it. Are you saying the DGB lynch wasn't terrible? Of course you're not- so what's the problem with me saying it?

c) It does kinda read like a bus, I'll admit, but it isn't one. Do my votes on the other two scums + traitor look like buses too?

d) I legitimately forgot the ability. Awful, I know. What would motivate me, as scum, to make that claim? The fact that I brought that up myself kinda wifom's it, but there's nothing else to say here.

Then there's this part:
Remember back in B how he defended VitR as town, then in C said that us/Mina/dram were obvtown? He had to bus his buddy (ABR's lynch was inevitable) which left him with tans and VitR as possible lynches… but oops, VitR was town via Buttons, which means he HAS to push tanstalas today… which he's clearly doing.


Except, I'm not scum, and tans is still the logical choice. It's him by elimination.

Note his last line, though -- he's casting suspicion back on his "obvtown" read of dram. Which, by the way, first he says dram is town due to CokeDeity calling him town, THEN he says dram is town because we called him town, and now he's setting dram up as a second mislynch after tanstalas flips town. He had backed himself into a corner by declaring us/Mina/dram town, then the daycop result on VitR fucked up his plans. Now he's having to go back on the dramtown read (which he changed his reasoning for TWICE already), and he's doing this before tans is even lynched, as if he knows what's going to happen.


I don't think dram is scum. I was asked who my top picks are. Obv tans is #1, #2 is a lot more difficult, but dram is the town read I have that I am the least confidant of, that's all...

some of this reads genuine.

btw i think the vote on bb is useless as everyone should have been calling for his blood. useless in terms of analysing anyway.

last part actually makes sense too. okay going to sleep i don't know.

MINA: I'd appreciate reading your case on mini now as tbh i'm not even convinced.

see part of me thinks mini scum would be trying to cast some suspicion on mina right now? or us? but it's like he's not. and while he has been calling us town he can easily justify a switch. it doesn't feel like scum play almost in some ways.
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Post Post #1769 (isolation #79) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:19 pm

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sigh the thing is i could see mini forgetting a night action out of anyone here but he's also smart and could fake that.

and the fact it reads like one of those 'oh roleblocked but tried to do something n1' things but modified sort of like mina from GENOCIDAL PONIES mafia
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Post Post #1770 (isolation #80) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:20 pm

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Minineko wrote:c) It does kinda read like a bus, I'll admit, but it isn't one. Do my votes on the other two scums traitor look like buses too?

the fuck do? when do scum admit their votes look like a bus?
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Post Post #1771 (isolation #81) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:20 pm

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though*
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Post Post #1795 (isolation #82) » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:01 am

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minaaaaaaaaaaaaaa how plausible is that
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Post Post #1810 (isolation #83) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:32 am

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Katsuki: prod Mina


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Post Post #1811 (isolation #84) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:32 am

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(actually there's no point she's working, hopefully she gets to this tonight)
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Post Post #1814 (isolation #85) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:39 am

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i'm really glad i have my reads and not tanstalas' reads
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Post Post #1816 (isolation #86) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:41 am

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shut the fuck up, your reads are terrible. go sit in the corner and let me lead the town to victory
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Post Post #1819 (isolation #87) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:46 am

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lol no one but reck can read dram, I'm convinced. (pay attention!)
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Post Post #1821 (isolation #88) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:53 am

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NO I HAVE NO SAY YOU STUPID FUCK:


I'm an emotionally abused pet because I try to work through disagreements, now where's my leash again?


THIS SUMS ME UP
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Post Post #1822 (isolation #89) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:54 am

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tanstalas wrote:his is a win/win for me. If one of you two are scum, I called it. If Mina is town I can just say everyone else thought they were town, couldnt get a lynch on them if they tried. Vit was (kinda) cleared by TBM as town. And if Mini IS scum, I'll just blame it on the fact that he hardly posted at all all game.Plus the fact Mini was added in later, I dont think he is scum, since adding a scum to the game is kinda inbalanced, adding a VT is meh.. but him saying he has a PR kinda irks me, since I was on the player list first and I got a "YOU ARE FUCKING BORING, FUCK YOU YOU ARE NOW A FUCKING VANILLA TOWNIE" role.

LOL you're so fucking bad to have to post this. do you just know your reads are shit and are trying to save face with the QQ lurker stuff
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Post Post #1824 (isolation #90) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:00 pm

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YOU FEELING FRISKY OR SOMETHING?

WTF IS THIS PLENTYOFFISH?
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Post Post #1825 (isolation #91) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:05 pm

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lolitrollyouintosilence


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Post Post #1827 (isolation #92) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:28 pm

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i can't afford to go [/emo]

sure, though. reck can drink it for me.
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Post Post #1832 (isolation #93) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:02 pm

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Mina: tanstalas was mean to me :(
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Post Post #1834 (isolation #94) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:04 pm

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(I agree though, he was obvtown after his back and forth with me, imo, and reck's online talking to me now)
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Post Post #1837 (isolation #95) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:06 pm

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I think Mini is the last scum, Tans. I don't want to go to Lylo.

I've only ever lost in lylo and i pretty much broke down after my last game SO let's end this today PLEASE
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Post Post #1839 (isolation #96) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:13 pm

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IF TOMORROW NEVER COMESSSSSSSSSSS


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Post Post #1840 (isolation #97) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:14 pm

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Minaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


HAMMER AND END THE GAME

YOU REMEMBER HOW MUCH YOU ENJOYED IT IN PSYCHIC MAFIA

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Post Post #1843 (isolation #98) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:49 pm

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OH GOD YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

inb4
HEHEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHEHEEHEHHEUEHEEHEEHEHEEHEHEHEHEEUEEEHEHEHEEEUEUEHEHEUEU

I KNEW MINI WAS SCUM ALL ALONG YOU FUCKS

HEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHUEEHEHEEUEHEUEHEU'

that and sensfan explaining his READZ
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Post Post #1847 (isolation #99) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:48 am

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Mina wrote:Nooo, I fell asleep early last night before I could hammer. I never even got a chance to post that case I wrote on Mini. It had actual scummy quotes he did and everything. Now I'll have no proof that I was onto him all along. :cry:

._. I even offered you the glory :( dramonic stole your thunder!
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Post Post #1849 (isolation #100) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:09 am

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I will.

Hey, you can answer some GTKAS questions later too.
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Post Post #1852 (isolation #101) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:50 am

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I assume he is scum because he hasn't posted saying 'I WAS THE BG YOU IDIOTS' or something akin to that


(also mini's clearly not even keeping up with the forum much yeah)
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Post Post #1861 (isolation #102) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:48 am

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Minaaaaaaaaaaaa

i mean it's not that she sucks on the forum as scum, far from it. but given the way she played in MLP (sorry >_>) I don't see it POSSIBLE to have such a dramatic turn around + there are lots of things in her language i don't actually think she'd be capable of saying as scum. would you like examples or something
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Post Post #1864 (isolation #103) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:00 am

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^i don't rly think it matters tbh
reck thinks tans is scum as he still doesn't think you've commited any of your scumtells + he thinks some of tanstalas' play yday looks fake
i don't think tans is good enough to fool me as scum so by POE you're scum.
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Post Post #1865 (isolation #104) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:05 am

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OKAY gonna get some food, and start reading this. funfunfunfun
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Post Post #1868 (isolation #105) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:42 am

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wut? we never flip flopped on mianana

i'm p sure the only time i've ever called her scum was in efforts to tease her >_>
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Post Post #1872 (isolation #106) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:46 pm

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Mina wrote:Can we go to night just so Katsuki and I don't have to be in LYLO?

It'll do wonders for my mental health. As it is, I feel like it's our fault that Mini got lynched before getting a successful bodyguard protect.

yeah

no

you're not leaving me in lylo + me and reck have already started thralling the thread and i want your opinions when we post what we post


no lynching here is stupid we're not doing it
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Post Post #1873 (isolation #107) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:47 pm

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tanstalas wrote:Oh look mini was town big fucking surprise and now more fail from ic who doesn't want to nl?

We had this game in the bag had we lynched drama and ic. Now we have a good shot at losing.

read my last post about no lynching being stupid and how we're not doing it

read it again

then read it again
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Post Post #1875 (isolation #108) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:49 pm

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lol

since you're idle on AIM i'll tell you here i don't have time to work on this tonight so tomorrow i'll get back to it
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Post Post #1877 (isolation #109) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:52 pm

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dramonic wrote:Do you actually expect me to quickvote in LyLo <_<
I would much rather go to LyLo than vote in MyLo.

i would prefer to have the extra town voice around, by far. esp. since as far as i'm concerned minasuki are confirmed town
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Post Post #1882 (isolation #110) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:59 pm

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tanstalas wrote:I wish we still had two lynches because I know it is you or dramonic.

so explain why you want to no lynch


go on explain the PERKS of it from your point of view


and yeah, i've played bad this game. it happens, more often than you'd think, actually. that doesn't mean i don't know basic mafia 101 , no lynching when minasuki are town is bad play. i'd only advocate no lynch at this stage if i had no town reads
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Post Post #1884 (isolation #111) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:01 pm

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dramonic wrote:While I'm glad you feel like that, I can't say I see anyone here as conftown. I'd rather not dance in MyLo with 3 non-confirm, my preference lies in a LyLo with only 2.

okay i get that

BUT

like no one is ever going to vote for the minasuki slot anyway. they might as well be a treestump with a vote >_> that's why i don't see it as a big deal, it also provides a bigger safety net, i think.
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Post Post #1885 (isolation #112) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:02 pm

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if someone can explain why no lynch is a good idea i'll vote it


if you can explain why letting my strongest town read die is a good idea then i'm all ears tans :| we;re not playing theoretically so a theoretical difference makes no matter
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Post Post #1888 (isolation #113) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:03 pm

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stop that
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Post Post #1889 (isolation #114) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:04 pm

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um I can semi understand dram wanting to nl if he thinks minasuki might be scum


i'm curious why tans wants it though :S
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Post Post #1894 (isolation #115) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:08 pm

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dramonic wrote:
Faraday wrote:i'd only advocate no lynch at this stage if i had no town reads
That's why I'm doing it. I'm still wary of 5 neighbours all being town. I don't think they're the most likely scum, but if they flip scum I'm going to be angry if we lynch in MyLo.
If what you value is Minatsuki's view on the game, I think the better thing to do is take a chill day, have them say whatever the hell you want to hear, then go to night on a No Lynch. You'll get your "valued town opinion", and I'll get my 2 suspects instead of 3.

this might work i guess. i'd prefer to pass the pressure off onto them though as my only 2 town lylos have resulted in spectacular losses for me :(
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Post Post #1895 (isolation #116) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:09 pm

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dramonic wrote:
dramonic wrote:
Faraday wrote:i'd only advocate no lynch at this stage if i had no town reads
If what you value is Minatsuki's view on the game.
Then again, that is also an issue in itself =P

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Post Post #1900 (isolation #117) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:14 pm

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dramonic wrote:It's tans.
EDIT: ITS TIME YOU TURN THE TIDE THEN!

well that is a good incentive

anyway

this has been fun

let's do it again some time i'm going to go do STUFF now
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Post Post #1903 (isolation #118) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:17 pm

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dramonic wrote:Do you have fruity drinks?
I want fruity drinks!

:( no

i shall buy you one soon
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Post Post #1909 (isolation #119) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:30 pm

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mina has called you town at least twice
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Post Post #1911 (isolation #120) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:38 pm

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it was stronger than that iirc
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Post Post #1912 (isolation #121) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:39 pm

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DAMN IT I NEED TO STOP POSTING

HIT ME IF I POST HERE AGAIN
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Post Post #1914 (isolation #122) » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:11 pm

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OWLTALITY

i'm v/la for a bit as i'm playing a speed game offsite, expect the large post thing me and reck are working on to be on the backburner till that is over
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Post Post #1928 (isolation #123) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:03 am

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uh the fuck that's a lot of questions
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Post Post #1930 (isolation #124) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:05 am

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I hate you right now >_>

Spoiler: MINA
1) Say you were scum and faked a vengeful role. Say you were town and faked a vengeful role. I then posted that the 100% winning strategy was to lynch you to test your claim. How would you react in each situation?(aagh...I'm going to hate myself if I caught IC by logic, but then let my gut override the evidence. Admittedly, the Fate, Kise, and TBM NKs make perfect sense for them.)

I would not fake vengeful as scum, I'd fake cop or vig or something that guarantees a powerful counterclaim or saves me a day. If I did? I'd probably try and persuade you that leaving it till Lylo is more beneficial as scum, saying that if scum don't kill us then we get 2 bites at the cherry tomorrow which is more optimal.

2) So both of you are known for having very accurate reads, right? Why were your top scum reads TheButtonmen, SensFan, Minineko, and tans (alignment unknown)? Why did Faraday say earlier that he was happy with his reads this game?

omg don't put burder of proficency on me, that's annoying >_>! Because if I lose the game over some sort of burder of proficeny argument I might just cry. Also I think my reads have been poor in certain cases recently and I'm inconsistent at the best of times. But yes, glad you admit you like my reads in general wheeee ^_^.


3) Why did you push for a Minineko hammer yesterday, rather than go along with a plan to use his bodyguard ability? Weren't you guys most suspicious of tans earlier?

Your plan centred on the fact that he'd die via NK, if not he was getting lynched. There were holes in your plan, specifically I was afraid it'd leave Mini alive in Lylo and considering he was my top suspect I wanted him dead. Actually, I'd have been exstatic to keep him alive for Lylo mislynch bait as scum, I could outargue him and outword him with ease. All scum had to do was to kill someone non bg'd to frame him.

And see below: but I was pretty sure it had to be mini by the end of yesterday.


4) Why didn't you mention that you thought tans was likely town for his outburst until VitaminR and I brought it up? Before then, you acted as though you thought he was scum in your interactions with him.

Um, what? I
unvoted
him after our back and forth. And we had a vote on Mini when you said this : this. I unvoted here. If you're talking about something else can you like quote it or something, I remember most of the game but when something may have happened more than once it can get confusing. I don't get HOW you're thinking I thought he was scum when we were voting Mini and I'd unvoted Tans. It's not like I'd be prone to changing my mind, but he dropped so many dumb tells i found it hard to believe he was town.


5) Why did you call tans' reads terrible if you thought he was scum?

I dunno. When was this? Like as in, before or after I unvoted?
Fakedit:
Here? um, we were voting mini at this stage and 'leading the town to victory', that's why. I didn't actually think tans was scum.


6) To both of you: are you shameless and dishonest enough to have reacted the way you did to my vezok comment were you scum, in order to play to your win condition? Do you believe faking that reaction WOULD have been shameless and dishonest?

Uh, I am ridiculously shameless as scum, though. You know that. I don't think I could fake the reaction that I had. Like I generally try to avoid going for that sort of thing as scum as I don't think I can make it sound like town faraday when frustrated, just because my brand of frustration is...sometimes peculiar. I'd probably just uh, try and charm you out of your plan as scum and hope it works?

On a completely unrelated note:
would you like a song?
:D

7) Faraday, why haven't you trolled or deliberately been unhelpful so as to fish for reactions this game?

I am unused to being suspected. It literally never happens in any serious capacity, or hasn't in ages, and I don't understand what I've done wrong this game that has led people to think I'm scum. It's really fucking frustrating. Well the vengeful WAS to fish for reactions, but I don't know. I think being on the back foot the whole game has probably meant i've played different. I mean even answering these questions feels weird, I wish I was obvtown enough that these questions weren't necessary


8) Another one for Faraday: on D1, you answered my accusation that you looked halfhearted by saying you were apathetic to Mafia in general. Why did you not replace out or lurk in any other games you were playing at the time? Why didn't you ever tell me on AIM that you were apathetic with Mafia? Why was this something that came up miraculously out of the blue in this game?

This was the only game I wasn't hydraing in, I think. I've noticed lately I tend to get slightly bored/apathetic if I'm not hydra'ing which is kinda terrible but. Also I really hadn't expected this game to start near as soon, i think i remember saying that to you before role pm's went out. I've no idea as to why I didn't mention it on AIM in general though. oh, test of faith was on at the time too and i hated that game and basically phoned in no effort all of day 3/game until benmage attacked me


Mina wrote:Hey, Faraday, your V/LA is over. Where are you? Why haven't you posted your VCA, yet? Hey...come to think of it, when do you even LIKE VCA?

Playing marathon games with no cases > reading through tans/dram's other peoples iso's. I'm here though. And come on, I'm never going to do VCA, ew. Reck already asked me to help him try and see what it means and I basically told him 'pretty colours'. Working on it, I'm not used to cases/this sort of thing but it seemed the best way to weigh up lylo
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Post Post #1931 (isolation #125) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:07 am

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Mina wrote:Gee,
thanks
, Katsuki. <_<

I take it you aren't very attached to your scum read on IC, to the point that I can ignore it and make my own decision, right?

Faraday, it's MYLO. Every bit of information counts in my final decision.

If you don't do what I say, I just might turn on you and lose the game for your faction. That's means I can force you guys to write aaaaaaaaall the words I want. MWAHAHAHAHA!

*cracks whip*

Dance my puppets, dance!

you are such a terrible person :(
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Post Post #1932 (isolation #126) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:09 am

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Hmm Mina, you know on Day 1 when I fakeclaimed vengeful

Well:
How many snakes would have to be in your bedroom before you say, "Okay, this is too many snakes." I'm trying to work it out when reading your ISO and I just can't.
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Post Post #1933 (isolation #127) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:16 am

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oh do you want all the vc's posted with colours and stuff, it's already done in the google doc so if you want all the vc's in thread i can post them in a spoiler i guess
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Post Post #1934 (isolation #128) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:18 am

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Mina wrote:6) Why should we clear you as scum and not IC, who was on the Blackberry and Nikanor wagons?

point: we defended nikanor to the death. do you mean abr?
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Post Post #1935 (isolation #129) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:26 am

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missed this:

Why did Faraday say earlier that he was happy with his reads this game?

because it's not nice to admit to myself i might have had poor reads? i managed to push/help push the abr lynch the day we unclaimed when people were salivating over a mini lynch for being unhelpful. i also wasn't willing to let bb off with lol faking a guilty. yeah my reads haven't been that great but i don't think they've been outright horribly bad

bleh stop bringing up my reads so much , it's not nice to get LOOK YOU WERE WRONG HERE HERE AND HERE getting rubbed in your face
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Post Post #1938 (isolation #130) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:48 am

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I'm on my phone so can't quote or read the spoiler. I remember malzan- please explain how anything is similar. I was fucking obvtown until the day i was lynched. I mean then on that day i got really annoyed andrefused to vote counterwagon. If you want the last time i was ever underthreat of lynch as town it's a long time ago. You can check my wiki but i think it was succession. Oh or test of faith versus ben. You had another question but i forget it. Apologies for the poor formatting
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Post Post #1941 (isolation #131) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:08 am

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Lol i had to quote your whole post to see the spoiler. Okay so here's the thing what's the point in pointing out the flaws if we use it or don't use it. Also i tried to psychicly communicate the plan flaws but you must have been asleep. Basically if we weren't lynching mini and he was scum the flaws didn't matter. If he wasn't what good does pointing them out do? Considering from my point of view it's possible the other 2 would miss it.
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Post Post #1942 (isolation #132) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:13 am

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Mina wrote:EBWOP: *other questions, not actual questions.

Okay, I vow not to post for at least three hours. If you see me here, kick me out.

go read a book or something :P

back on a computer now anyway
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Post Post #1943 (isolation #133) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:22 am

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Mina wrote:Faraday, don't you have any paranoid niggling doubts about me? Maybe I'm pulling another Malazan.

Maybe you should be putting me through the ringer, too....Hey, I've got an idea. Let's just lynch whichever of dramonic and tanstalas is the last to give full answers to all my questions! Who's with me?

If I pretend to be paranoid will it make you happy? :P

No, I know Malazan happened but I wasn't worried about it in Defcon and I'm not worried about it here (If you're curious I vaguely mentioned to Equinox on AIM there was a tiny chance you could be the terrorist in Defcon, feel better!). I like to think I can read you really well, I got it wrong in Malazan, not because I underestimated you as a player but because I took what would ordinarily be a town tell for you and didn't figure in the fact your scum buddy was ALSO the other wagon. You also have some town tells don't think you'd be able to pull of as scum unless you were being coached by a hydra buddy who knew your meta.
And yes, to anyone reading Malazan is an offsite game, don't worry about it.
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Post Post #1944 (isolation #134) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:29 am

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http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... &start=200

Mininiminaaaaa can I get your independant thoughts on this? it's tans iso as town before being lynched in dexter. how would you say his reactions compare to this game?
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Post Post #1945 (isolation #135) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:30 am

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(I am not actually sure if you actively use meta that you don't have first hand experience of, though blah? I feel like I should know that!)
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Post Post #1949 (isolation #136) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:35 am

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i don't understand vca or feel it's useful when it relies on assumptions of what scum would do (i.e why wouldn't nikanor vote fate along with dramonic? I don't see why it's less likely if we ignore context)
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Post Post #1951 (isolation #137) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:02 am

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isn't that what vca always does? >_>
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Post Post #1952 (isolation #138) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:20 am

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oh, dramonic: do you prefer town or scum? I forget
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Post Post #1954 (isolation #139) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:33 am

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okay, thanks.
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Post Post #1957 (isolation #140) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:14 am

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tans iso done! abr iso done! blackberry iso done!


imma finish it tomorrow don't feel in the mood for more SERIOUS MAFIA right now
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Post Post #1963 (isolation #141) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:44 pm

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Mina wrote:(Actually, something that tipped me to Minineko over tans yesterday was how tans jumped off Nikanor to vote dramonic when there was no momentum going dram's way. Maybe I'm just thinking of MLP Mafia, in which a wagon on my buddy snowballed while I was V/LA--in that case, I stalled unvoting so I wouldn't lose my spot as first on the wagon if he flipped that day. But then again, this was AFTER DGB had unvoted Nikanor. I also saw scum do something similar recently in an off-site game, so maybe I've got the logic backwards.)

uh...i don't geddit :P splain
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Post Post #1964 (isolation #142) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:44 pm

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like i read it but it's just :words:
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Post Post #1967 (isolation #143) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:51 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:
Mina wrote:VCA post was useful

SUCK IT FARADAY

LOOK I'M HETERO, OKAY
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Post Post #1970 (isolation #144) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:04 pm

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>_>

<_<

yes clearly the fault is yours, and not mr jameson! :P gotcha now. i don't know, i tend to tunnel regardless so don't switch my vote frequently so w/e?

also tbh I thought you KEEPING your vote on inhim in mlp was scummy it looked idk anyway ^_^
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Post Post #1973 (isolation #145) » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:56 am

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v/la till tuesday (maybe)
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Post Post #1975 (isolation #146) » Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:11 pm

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might just dump my readthrough stuff tomorrow to let everyone take a look at it i guess
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Post Post #1980 (isolation #147) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:24 am

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and i'm back!
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Post Post #1981 (isolation #148) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:31 am

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tanstalas wrote:Mina.

Vote Dram or IC.

One of them is scum.

I thought you were smart when I met you at goofbash.

Please do not disappoint me

oh, okay. this isn't slimy as fuck or anything
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Post Post #1983 (isolation #149) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:11 am

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i have a knot in my stomach the size of a clenched fist right now.
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Post Post #1984 (isolation #150) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:17 am

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Hey Mina. You should vote Tanstalas. It's an easy way to find out if he's scum or not!

>_>

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Post Post #1985 (isolation #151) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:22 am

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Mina wrote:What's the strategic purpose of then switching your vote to someone else, when you know your buddy will flip scum that day?

i finally worked out what you meant

as a counterpoint i did it in metamafia, remember? I was very first on quadz, switched to vv then switched back. actually on the other hand i was really worried i made myself look obvious with the switch to vv so the psychology might be okay
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Post Post #1987 (isolation #152) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:49 am

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the joys of lylo! .___.
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Post Post #1990 (isolation #153) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:08 am

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brilliant response!
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Post Post #1992 (isolation #154) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:22 am

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tanstalas wrote:I don't think anything else needs to be said. I think you are scum. If you aren't then Dramonic is and he is getting a free ride to a win.

woah almost thought this was a serious post then realised you were trolling me. tricky bastard :oops:
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Post Post #1998 (isolation #155) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:38 am

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fuck tans and his garbage scum posts


^ this is my current position on the game
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Post Post #2000 (isolation #156) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:28 am

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tanstalas wrote:So IC is undecided between myself and Dram (talking about the 2 heads)

i'm about 70/30 that you're the scum at the moment.


i want to know why mina thinks dramonic is scummier than you tbh. i don't see it after my re-read.

go go gadget montrealer!
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Post Post #2001 (isolation #157) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:31 am

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Spoiler:
MINA WAS THAT A TRAP?
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Post Post #2005 (isolation #158) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:51 am

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Sorry.

Vote Dram
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Post Post #2007 (isolation #159) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:52 am

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Sorry.
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Post Post #2008 (isolation #160) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:53 am

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Meh.
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Post Post #2013 (isolation #161) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:58 am

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Mina wrote:...

idk what to say
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Post Post #2015 (isolation #162) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:58 am

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Fate wrote:DONT YOU DOT DOT DOT THE FUCK ME

game's not over YET
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Post Post #2023 (isolation #163) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:06 am

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i am so fucking angry right now
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Post Post #2024 (isolation #164) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:06 am

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NO FUCKING SERIOUSLY WE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ALIVE AND I PUT THAT MUCH EFFORT IN AND WE'RE FUCKING CHEATERS?


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Post Post #2025 (isolation #165) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:07 am

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reck get your fucking arse in herenow
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Post Post #2026 (isolation #166) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:11 am

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HEY PEOPLE DON'T STOP POSTING THE FUN IS JUST BEGINNING

Irish Carbomb - Mafia Goon were modkilled day 1.


TOWN WIN
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Post Post #2037 (isolation #167) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:20 am

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Fate wrote:
dramonic wrote:reck...

CALLING me on day 1?


wut?

oh just wait
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Post Post #2041 (isolation #168) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:23 am

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tanstalas wrote:Mina, next time listen to the Asian. Those Asian's are smart.

you literally did nothing in lylo. that was why it was so easy to look obvtown
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Post Post #2043 (isolation #169) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:24 am

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Fate wrote:<__<

Whatever shenanigans happened, I won in spirit by calling the fucking scumteam, and TOWN lost in spirit because they derped the fuck around and didn't lynch THE GODDAMN

CLAIMED

FUCKING

VENGEFUL

OVER

MY

MASON

BUDDY

he helped lynch himself, lol'd so hard
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Post Post #2044 (isolation #170) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:25 am

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tanstalas wrote:You didn't look obvtown to me, AT ALL.

I just couldn't convince Mina to vote you, and this game had stalled enough.

you also actually never tried, lol. gg i wins even if i don't wins.
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Post Post #2050 (isolation #171) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:28 am

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fate should love the scum qt
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Post Post #2053 (isolation #172) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:29 am

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yes that is clearly due to READS ...

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Post Post #2057 (isolation #173) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:32 am

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^ nah we did impressions of you
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Post Post #2058 (isolation #174) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:32 am

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Also, the vast majority of my frustration with this game is directed towards Mina and Katsuki, both of which I feel are almost completely responsible for this loss. The slot has been confirmed since early D1 and has access to all of Fate and my's thoughts. There's absolutely no excuse whatsoever for them to have spent all game doing absolutely nothing to the point they've been left alive as a complete non-threat to IC.


YOU SELF HAMMERED YOU STUPID IDIOT

YOU SELF HAMMERED

YOU SELF HAMMERED

AND I FUCKING LOVED IT
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Post Post #2066 (isolation #175) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:48 am

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....er


carry on?
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Post Post #2085 (isolation #176) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:06 am

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Irish Carbomb just spammed up the thread and then were declared town because some of the posts happened to the right notes. Had I had one more day or had more time near the deadline previous to that and I sure as hell wouldn't've let them get away with it.

*shrug* that's why you died
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Post Post #2087 (isolation #177) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:10 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:I was having a terrible day at work. I called dramonic to vent. I vented about school, work, and said that mafia was pissing me off (which, it was, but not because of this game). He asked about this game specifically, and I said something about "Faraday's probably hammered us by now anyway" or SOMETHING to that effect, and that was all that was said. Literally a five-second blurb in the scheme of a 20 minute conversation. We went on with the conversation after that. I never claimed vengeful to him, I never asked him to hammer me, I didn't even bring up the game to him at all.

i'm gonna be honest here - i kinda think this is modkill worthy... :?
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Post Post #2098 (isolation #178) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:34 am

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hey fate hope you liked the scum qt

it was done 'specially for you <3
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Post Post #2102 (isolation #179) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:38 am

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Hint: look at Faraday's wiki and see how many of his scum roles have "Survived" after them.

this was a funny post
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Post Post #2104 (isolation #180) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:41 am

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.__.

the only fun part of the game for me tbh
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Post Post #2107 (isolation #181) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:45 am

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you probably thought the same after metamafia? oops.
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Post Post #2108 (isolation #182) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:46 am

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but yeah, manipulation wasn't the problem here

the endgame makes clear my PROBLEM
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Post Post #2119 (isolation #183) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:35 am

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HEY SENS LOL
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Post Post #2130 (isolation #184) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:48 am

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Vi wrote:You have no idea how much I've wanted to use this game as an example for... at least a month now.

being a dick in a mafia game works? :?
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Post Post #2132 (isolation #185) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:51 am

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Fate wrote:Sens' self-vote was out of desperation and frustatin it was a thousand times better than a no lynch.

nope, lol. teehee nl ensured we died next day after i promised to self hammer if needed.
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Post Post #2134 (isolation #186) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:56 am

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heh.

nice hyperbole
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Post Post #2137 (isolation #187) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:00 am

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SensFan wrote:Not hyperbole. The problem with claiming Venge as Scum is that a Venge is literally a FREE LYNCH. FREE.

kinda think it worked well
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Post Post #2141 (isolation #188) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:04 am

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SensFan wrote:
Faraday wrote:
SensFan wrote:Not hyperbole. The problem with claiming Venge as Scum is that a Venge is literally a FREE LYNCH. FREE.

kinda think it worked well

If you think you won this through any particular excellence of play, then I distinctly beg to differ.

YEP LOL. but luckily you're a retard who self hammers so your opinion is invalid.
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Post Post #2143 (isolation #189) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:05 am

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Katsuki wrote:
Vi wrote:That post wasn't a knock on the Irish Carbomb team, to be clear. That was not an easy win, and not just anyone could have done it.


Reck had Dram in this game.
Faraday had Mina in this game.

Nuff said.

yeah chamber/ether day 1, mini, vitamin. they're all admirers of me too.
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Post Post #2144 (isolation #190) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:06 am

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SensFan wrote:
Faraday wrote:
SensFan wrote:
Faraday wrote:
SensFan wrote:Not hyperbole. The problem with claiming Venge as Scum is that a Venge is literally a FREE LYNCH. FREE.

kinda think it worked well

If you think you won this through any particular excellence of play, then I distinctly beg to differ.

YEP LOL. but luckily you're a retard who self hammers so your opinion is invalid.

And luckily you Hydra'd your way out of being lynched D1 so yours is exceptionally valid.

i am morally reprehensible, but you still self hammered. i win. you lose. suck it up, champ.
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Post Post #2147 (isolation #191) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:15 am

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it wasn't in this case though, but whatever
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Post Post #2154 (isolation #192) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:58 am

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couch qt is a good read. thanks for sharing!
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Post Post #2155 (isolation #193) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:59 am

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tanstalas wrote:Which buddies did you bus? I saw ABR. That's it.

we only had 2 lolz
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Post Post #2156 (isolation #194) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:01 pm

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also looking at my wiki is cheating, and i'm never scum.
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Post Post #2158 (isolation #195) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:58 pm

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oh well that's not true, but he just saying how awesome we were i guess
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Post Post #2160 (isolation #196) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:04 pm

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well uh...we did after he faked a damn guilty?

tbf i still thought it might be vit for some reason
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Post Post #2164 (isolation #197) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:15 pm

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i prefer bussing all my buddies and convincing a vig to skip lylo

BUT TO EACH THEIR OWN FATE
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Post Post #2165 (isolation #198) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:16 pm

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Fate wrote:But w/e, I'm just saying your play was good but you didn't "claim jester and then powerbus all your buddies to victory."

oh, yeah I'd agree. we went for the LOL TOO OBVIOUS TO BE BUDDIES thing with nik

blackberry worked a dream day 2 which was great, good traitor play.
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Post Post #2167 (isolation #199) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:07 pm

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the hydra is like 50% sdc maximum, plus i think it was a little more than SCREAM TO VICTORY but eh
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