The Wire, Season 1 - Final Credits!

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VOTE: petapan
Hi.

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I don't like black people, I'm requesting a white man role

^^^^

you must be a member of the cops then lol

Shouldn't have said this...
I haven't watched season 1 in a year or so but from what I can remember there shouldn't be any white people in town.

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I'm not used to this speed. My activity/effort should get better after this friday which is my last exam. Not sure if I've already mentioned that.

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Vote:Ser Arthur Dayne

I agree with Benmage. The RP is not helping and is annoying.

Bubbles is a scum CI anyway.

Not liking this.
Are you voting him because of the RC or because "he's bubbles"?
Also, how do you know Bubbles is a role in this game?
Why would SAD-bubbles use an avatar of bubbles if he was with scum?
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@Benmage - The kind of speed where I leave and come back to see 3/2 extra pages.
UNVOTE:

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Sorry RP*

@Nost - Stringer Bell / Avon are the leaders of the barksdale org in the show. Outing them would be dumb.
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There's quite a lot of hydras here huh...

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unvote vote Plessie

@absta's 5 pages in 24 hours is pretty standard, if not actually a little slow for the start of a 19p game. I wouldn't have been surprised to see 10.
--It seems like a pre-excuse, when the game hasn't moved quickly. Hell there's been comments on how slow it's actually moving.

It's not a pre-excuse and this is my first 19p game so it doesn't matter if it's standard.

@Mod - V/LA until saturday or friday night.

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Back.

Need to skim through these pages.

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Fuck that, there's too much.

@Shadow - What's wrong with my posts?
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@Cerullen - Why is Safetydance scum to you?

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vifam delivering one liners isn't relevant to his alignment that's just how he posts also he's p clearly posting content so ur dum imho

Calling someone dumb only works if you can actually use correct grammar, punctuation and spelling and not with the result that you make yourself look dumb in the process.

This is a town reaction to an insult. Not that strong but it's good enough to make jason leaning town.
The insult wouldn't really apply to scum-Jason (assuming Vifam isn't scum) so he could've just ignored it. Plus, this looks quite genuine.
He's only slight town because faking the reaction as scum isn't hard, I've done it before.

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That was back when I gave a fuck and was on tryhard mode

Vifam is scum for using the word tryhard.

Have I played a game with you before? Your name sounds familiar.
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Petapan is prob scum finding it hard to create reads.

DV is slight town due to meta (from memory).

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@cerullen - If I called scum player a retard for having shit reads for example, it wouldn't really apply because their reads are made up. Town would get pissed off if they were insulted like that. Personality plays a part but Jasons response looked genuine.

Why is safetydance scum to you?

P-Edit: DV is a slight town read. Peta is prob scum.

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I see it now...

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I'll carry on catch up tomorrow.

Don't know yet.

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@Ben - I think I'm on page 9 but I've been skimming the walls. I gave my read on jason because he's the leading waggon.
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@Safety - You've seen that SaD isn't responding to your pressure and you've stated that he isn't exactly a scum read. Why are you still voting him?

On the contrary to those thinking its scummy to point it out, I think it's incredibly scummy of those who are throwing weak scum reads for weak reason such as this.

I don't understand this. Can you explain it please.
Also, town-you would be voting these increadibly scummy people or deffenders over SaD who isn't really your scum read.
VOTE: Safety
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@peta - I wanted to catch up fully before I voted.

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Stop fucking posting so much. I've been sitting here trying to post this fucking post. FUCK!

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@Safety - "I have no idea when he changed his avatar, for all I know it was for this game"

Why would scum-SaD give away his role like that?

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Post #268 by SAD is slightly scummy. I don't like the fact that he calls the people town-reading him naive, it doesn't seem genuine. If players were town-reading me for invalid reasons I would at least consider the possibility that they are scum trying to buddy me.

If you're gonna put me as town, it better be for a damn good reason.

Also this looks really fake. Town either suspect the people town-reading them or accept the town read because it's right (but who cares if it's for the wrong reasons). Scum usually always accept any town read or they can challenge it to make themselves look even more town (the WIFOM part I guess).

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SAD do you think that people townreading you are just naive or possibly scum who are faking reads

This is a question from town.

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If you're gonna put me as town, it better be for a damn good reason.

See this attitude is something I find much more likely from scum trying to be cool and all than town.

Town.

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Post #351 by SAD makes some sense. I was town-reading Jason for his gambit but this changed my mind.

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for real though why are people ignoring safetydance

bs noise post. SD was the second largest waggon at that point (unless i'm blind).

stopping here, getting late.
sorry for the multi-post-spam.

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camn's push on the hydra thing seems scummy. From what i've seen, he looks like scum throwing bs suspicion on Plezz.

Also, #419 looks like he's just jumped on McStab because a few players were saying "hmm, McStab is lynchable". Throwing in the connection with Plezz (as if she's conf scum) is another terrible move that seems more 'opportunistic' than 'genuine'.
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@Plezz

- Peta is town atm but i'm not fully caught up yet. Also, I wasn't calling him scum with the "bs noise" thing.
SaD is harder to read (null).

(Yes, I follow the latest posts as well.

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You know what?
VOTE: Camn
I'm sick and tired of his fucking bull shit.

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Read more tomorrow.

Not so confident on my SD vote anymore (obviously). People should vote Camn for what I brought up.

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I'm sick and tired of his fucking bull shit.

ooOOoo.. big man!

Respect dawg, respect. Y'all don't know who y'all talkin to!

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@Mini-L

- Are you voting peta for meta reasons only? (post #439.)
Also, did you read more than two games of his?
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@BT

Librarian #390 gets a mention for commenting on the big wagons while still sticking to a vote that no one is interested in.

You vote who you find scummy. I don't understand why you're attacking him for doing that 'this early' (#390).
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@Camn

Also note the hypocrisy of asking me 'why' while delivering absolutely nothing in the way of 'why'.

wtf is this? How is it scummy for him to ask you why and not state why himself? You could easily ask him "why", so I don't see the scum motivation in this. Terrible reason for calling him scummy.

Not useful to the game.
Either spill it.. or shut up about it and just tell us when after you have two-head-approval. Hydra self-reference is not useful..

and although I have townread on YOUR SLOT, I am starting to think it is a scumtell in general.

Not at all a town/genuine thought process. If your townread is doing it you wouldn't assume it's a general scum-tell, you would assume it's more likely null. Also, why is cerrulen still a town read to you if you honestly think it's a "general scum tell"?
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Why is Camn town exactly?

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@plez

You seem to be confusing "things that are annoying" with "things that are scummy".

Wtf, she's not confused, she's scum. Vote her.

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Not sure if she's answered after post #467 but what from Vifam's ISO was scummy?

I'll carry on later.

Also, Tu much ta'in round here, niqqas need ta shu' the fuck up, fo real!.

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@Nost

So this gambit thing, honestly I'm seeing a lot of explanations for why it was a bad idea but very few for why it makes Jason scum; I like #351, I think it's largely true, but again I don't see how it points to scum motivation.

I think I'm going to have to be hipster here and look elsewhere until someone provides an actual explanation for scum motivation.

I do want to see where the questions in #458 go though.

...That's the obvious part. Scum-Jason would do it to somewhat 'confirm' himself "town". If the gambit was genuine, the chance of Jason being scum is verry low.

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@Cerullen

- What's this for?

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@Camn

And now, I apologize to everyone, I have wasted my 30 minutes worth of free mafia time this weekend talking about NOTHING.
I will not return to this topic, for the sake of the game.

And please.. dont let me break my rule again: dont argue with scum.

Next relevant post.

Truthfully? I think Plezzie is doing a pretty good job of defending themselves, and I am softening my opinion on them.

How am I the only one who sees this shit? Taking into account that Plez didn't post between these two posts, how did this read-change even happen? At one point Camn ends the conversation with Plez, calling her scum, then BT comes in and get's suspicious of camn and she says Plez isn't that scummy anymore. Fucking bs scum. You can't say

"Not arguing with scum"

then

"tbh, she's actually defending herself quite well. My read on her isn't strong anymore"

and still be town. The only reason her read became weak is because it needed to so that she could vote McStab with Plez on the same waggon as her.

Confirm vote: Camn

if I wanted to say something was scummy... I would use that word instead of the word 'hypocrisy'.
And if townies never did scummy things, there would never be any mislynches. But seriously.... the Hydra talk is off topic, out of game, and not relevant. Talk to someone else about it if you want.

It is relevant. I'm not going to leave it alone.

You called that quote scummy then said it was hypocritical. To you, it was scummy because of the hypocrisy no? If not, why did you even mention it?
Also, why was the quote scummy at all?

Here it is, incase you forgot.

In other news:
this is scummy.

SD is actually pretty solid, people should back off of that wagon.

Vifam was scummy in general, and so is his replacement. Also note the hypocrisy of asking me 'why' while delivering absolutely nothing in the way of 'why'.

Explain what you meant by a "general scum-tell" then. The hydra thing went from being just a scum-tell to a general scum-tell. What's the significance of that?

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More votes on Camn please.

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@Nost - Now that you know the scum motivation behind the gambit thing. What do you think of Jason?

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Fuck this, i'm still like 10 pages behind. I'm going to skip a few (A LOT) the next time I post.

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Quick reply:
@Cerullen - I obviously know what a fucking FOS is, I was asking what McStab was suspicious for.
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What's the case on TGAH?

Dan's CC reads town from gut.

Ben
DV
Cerullen

These are good targets.

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@Plez - You never seen that question before?
Seriously, go fuck yourself. I'm not going to finish reading 10+ (boring) pages when one of you voters could just tell me.

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[Phone post]
I have to come in and see this shit from Camn? Just look at how selective she's been with her evidence. Fucking scum.

@Camn - All you've done is picked out the parts that aren't my case. You still haven't FUCKING ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS, instead you've responded with "I don't like the way those questions look, could you make them stand out a bit more". How many times are you going to dodge what I present to you?

You also thought that the hydra self reference thing was a "real scum tell" so I wouldn't trust you at all.

/rage
I'll destroy your shitty ass case when I get to a computer.

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@Camn

Who are your partners, Hero?

I thought I was a scum read to you?
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first.. a number of Absta's early posts are setup speculation and other chatter.

No, not "number of posts". You've just provided single sentences as evidence instead of the whole post.

Your first example is post #60. That's really early in the game and a few people were talking shit, I don't see how that's anything but null.

Post #134. I was responding to a question from Benmage. What was I supposed to do, tell him to F-off?
In the same post I asked SD some questions so I could understand where he's coming from. That's neither setup speculation or useless chatter, which i'm assuming is why you didn't quote it.

post #136 was made 6 minutes after my previous post (#134) but i'll agree that this post wasn't exactly necessary. The fact that you split the post in two so that it looks like you have more evidence is scummy. You specifically said "

a number of Absta's early posts

" yet nearly all your evidence is based off of small sections (single sentences) of the posts.

post #288. Again, more to that post than the single sentence you provided. I gave two reads below the ( --- ). Also, this post came 9 minutes after my previous post which gave a read on Jason.

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More coming...

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@Camn

I cram in 'complains about speed" in the same tell-category. It happens to everyone,

but scum are more likely to use it as an excuse.

What's this based on?
There's no way for me to prove to you that the speed was actually to fast for me. I've replaced out too much lately, so that's out of question for now (no offence Mod), plus I like The Wire a lot. I specifically never play Large games because I know they'll be too fast for my liking. I didn't know this was a large until the game thread was created.

Last, and though it may seem OMGUS-ey since its me, someone else also mentioned it as well.. His attack on me is not only shallow and contrived... it is classic scum, since it is a nonstarter. I am not a viable lynch, he has no support..

1. That someone was your scum read(?) Plez.
2. I'm not the only one who thinks you're scum from what i've seen.
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Your first piece of 'evidence' is Post #515. (Wtf is wrong with you?)

You know what?
VOTE: Camn
I'm sick and tired of his fucking bull shit.

How does this even look like an attempt at a case? That's just me voting you in a cool way.

Post #516. Again, how does this look like an attempt at a case?

People should vote Camn for what I brought up.

Your evidence sucks so much.

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Wow, what the fucking shit? All your evidence for "crap-casing" is retarded. Is your case supposed to be some kind of joke or were you being serious with this?

@Everyone - Please, go read the "crap case" spoiler in Camn's post #947 and then read my actuall reasons for voting her in posts (1, 2, 3).

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Wow, more dodging. Camn, I hate you so much you fucking troll.

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JUST RESPOND TO ALL OF IT!

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GG Ben and Jason.

I'm probably never gonna play a large game ever again.

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I was just doing it for jokes.

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Also, yeah. It was cool to play this game with you all.