Mini 1436 ~ Mafia Through a Puppy's Eyes (Game Over.)

[Parama]

vote: SafetyDance

leaves his friends behind, obvscum

[Parama]

vote: SafetyDance

Wagon.

town

=also...curious as to what the battery power is for...

has never played a Vi game before
you sad miserable little man :<

[Parama]

where the hell did that emoticon come from

did I like murder the quote or something

[Parama]

Vote:panzerjager

I'm scum gais

conftown
panzer who do I dayvig

I like your early reads from last time I saw you play, even if you did replace into that game and only called out one scum.
One scum is better than none, and also the amount you claim to have found here.

VOTE: panzer

scum

unvote, vote: Cheery

Just 'cause I was scum once... >:P

But seriously,

VOTE: panzerjager

vote morkh

this is scum.

could be I'll wait for another post kthx
I'm scum with Mhork actually and this is me not wanting to bus
just ftr
also don't vig panzer
also yes messiah is town

[Parama]

your givin me real mixed signals here pamarama

good
maxous if this is so
explain it to me

[Parama]

I don't have a dayvig
Who should I dayvig?

[Parama]

oh.
yes. mhork is scum.
holy hell mhork is scum. lol.

unvote, vote: Mhork

implo can be town for now I guess
cheery is hilariously scum too

what the hell do I do
there's two obvscum
and only one rope
:<

P-EDIT: And Safety that's completely irrelevant I don't care

[Parama]

hrrmm
actually I dunno why cheery would hop off the only counter wagon with actual votes if he was scum with mhork
at the same time he is the scummiest scum

[Parama]

he's actually L-1
feel free to quickhammer

[Parama]

P-EDIT: And Safety that's completely irrelevant I don't care

I'M NOT IRRELEVANT! LOOK AT MEEEEEE, OR I'LL MAKE YOU >:(...AND THAT WAS ADDRESSING MHORK

P-EDIT: MHORK'S AT L-1 NOT L-2
P-P-EDIT: HE'S ALREADY AT L-1!!!

these aren't PMs, nobody else but you and mhork give a damn about whatever you're talking about
maxous: yes. yours and yours specifically in fact. I want nobody else to say anything until maxous does.

[Parama]

RVS ended on page one

[Parama]

Also.
Why Messiah specifically.
5 of the 6 people voting you have not expanded upon why they think you're scum
Yet you single out Messiah

[Parama]

that's a bad question, parama.

which question?
I'm asking like 3 people questions now

[Parama]

INTENT

TO HAMMER. GIVE OR TAKE A WEEK MAYBE. CLAIM NOW PLEASE, K THX.

Hey!
Stop using caps lock. You're not Fate. You'll never be Fate.
Also. A week. Is at least 6 days too long.

[Parama]

vig.
Safety plz.
not dealing with this.

[Parama]

okay I was expecting maxous to not have a valid response
but he does. take this town badge (>'')>@

It has all the elements of a Day 1 mislynch: some little thing is taken as proof of scumminess, and everything that follows is considered scummy by default. Circular reasoning in effect.

Okay, tell me how the play could be considered "town play"
or why it's not scummy
p.s. when scum get scummier after being called scum, we call that flailing

fml safety has a post restriction.
ignore what I said about vigging him
it's not his fault.
vig the mods instead

[Parama]

mmk don't worry about me ignoring you for the rest of the game then, you're probably used to it

[Parama]

I love you SpyreX <3

[Parama]

hrrrm which of Ice or Cheery to go after next
pretty sure both are scum regardless of what Mhork flips but even more so if he flips scum

[Parama]

ERMAHGERD

INB4 LYNCHER

8|

IceGuy: SpyreX never does anything stupid. He only does AWESOME things

ERMAHGERD

INB4 LYNCHER

You should

really

stop all-capsing.

you dolt, post restriction :V

mhork who is the scum on your wagon
you didn't tell us
maybe because there aren't scum on your wagon
because you're scum

safety is conftown
iceguy is confscum
gg

[Parama]

vote cherry

parama sell me on iceguyscum.

tbh rereading overnight I decided Cheery was more likely of the two
so lemme sheep ya'll
or is it the other way around

vote: Cheery

[Parama]

no Maxous is town spyspy

[Parama]

obvtown but also fairly useless IMO
also yeah kanye basically said it perfect on why Max is town
though I already said it myself, you're too lazy to read spy spy :V

[Parama]

That he was able to read your posts?

Kanye hadn't said a word about why Mhork was scum.
Maxous didn't get it from anyone's posts. That's why he's town.

[Parama]

thinking about it again
implo is kind of really pissing me off
ask one dumb question -> totally scum guize

this is a problem because implo has played with me plenty
and knows I ask plenty of dumb questions
will probz read him over at some point in the near future.

[Parama]

LM mislynch

umm.

[Parama]

Honesty is not the best policy when it means you're being a lazy bum
It takes more effort to fake reads than it does to have no reads and admit to it

[Parama]

proddodge
holidays and then break ending, will try to get back to this soon

[Parama]

okay I really have no excuse for the laziness at this point
give me a few minutes to finish up something and get the song contest songs started and I'll read from the start of d2

[Parama]

i dont think implo scum has any motivation to attack you so much parama. its pretty obvies youre not being lynched anytime soon.

well it's like
sowing seeds that will sprout later in the game or something
but ehh, maybe I'm just paranoid, though I still don't like implo.

Cheery is apparently voting random people. I don't see any reason to change my vote yet.

It takes more balls to admit to it, though.

erfo8aurl8iyareilyaerhiaurtya8oiusyhgi

oh implosion is soooo dead

I don't like that Iceguy was like "whoa I have no reads, i'm not reading the thread" and everyone was like "SCUM" I feel it's not something scum would do.

Not the whole story. He's acting like NOT READING is okay because "balls"

What I'm trying to say is that his logic is balls
And he's acting like that's totally okay

Unfortunately I agree with 239
But it makes him null
And still worth lynching
Just that there are better ones right now

...hmm. 252 is actually one of the worst posts of the game.
I don't really give credibility to Messiah's argument on its own, but sword's reaction is stupendously terrible.
but I really want to kill Cheery too... this is hard.

Okay implo is just attacking Maxous' credibility more than anything else in 253 and that's pissing me off
implo is really pissing me off in this game

Death list:
Cheery
Implo
Sword

Pants list:
IceGuy

I won't lynch these guys list:
kanye
Maxous

Everyone else is still to be determined. Clearing the deathlist should end the game though. I sure hope it does

[Parama]

if we want to?
can we leave your friends behind?

<RIP SafetyDance, 1983-2013?

[Parama]

also.

people please start existing
are you all going to hide now that I'm back? :V

[Parama]

ooh okay we've got a live one here.

unvote, vote: sword

also.
why 252 is awful
1. ignoring the entirety of the post
2. deflecting to two popular scumspects

why 267 is awful
1. attacking Messiah's credibility instead of his argument (first bit rather; makes 252 even worse actually :V)
2. appeasement; responding now that you've been called out

I didn't even read your defense, but that you posted it there instead of in 252 makes me believe you don't care about it either. So d(''d)

[Parama]

also now we've got 3 wagons with 3 people on it don't we

ugh, this is a mess.

[Parama]

Oh. Okay. Cheery is refusing to play now, I want him gone town or scum. Though he's prob the latter so :V

unvote, vote: Cheery

sword is still totally scum too btw. I think we've got this about wrapped up honestly

[Parama]

so you weren't sold on me being town at the start of D2, but you townread me now just because of D1?
How does that logic

[Parama]

I think there's someone for each person receiving any amount of suspicion that's calling them town.
We don't seem to have any general consensus on anything right now and the battery is counting down :T

and impy, "not convinced" implies heavily to me a lack of a town read. if you did not mean it that way, well, word your post better next time.
kanye I really don't see sword being town
LLD please point out the town motivation for his moves kthx

[Parama]

oh my god
I can't do anything
my vote will just put someone else at L-2

WE NEED TO CONSOLIDATE FFS
I AM NOT EFFING NLING

[Parama]

I cannot chill

I HUNGER FOR BLOOD

[Parama]

[Parama]

[Parama]

i wasn't going to do another
but this was too easy
i'm done now

[Parama]

Me changing my vote does nothing to help the gam progress
if sword or ice gets to L-2 or L-1 I'm going to vote/hammer WITHOUT PREJUDICE \o/

[Parama]

Okay. Cheery's insistence on voting implosion even though voting sword or Ice would likely get one of them lynched instead (since I'm just voting to lynch /someone/ at this point) makes him townier than sword.

unvote, vote: sword

Cheery. Get on this wagon right now or I'm redirecting the whole of the sword wagon to you. We need to lynch. Your vote is wasted. Stop wasting it.

[Parama]

NO :I
YOU BLOODY IDIOT
I almost want to lynch you just on policy, because you're hurting town if you're town, and if you're scum, woo \o/

[Parama]

I don't consider IceGuy to be a valid lynch seeing as there are 2 people I want to lynch more than him, and both of them are on the IceGuy wagon atm

[Parama]

Kanye. LLD. Join the crusade against sword/cheery, for the greater good? :>

[Parama]

SOMEONE VOTE SOMEONE THEY"RE NOT ALREADY VOTING RAAAAGH

[Parama]

^Already said that earlier lol

[Parama]

I don't consider IceGuy to be a valid lynch seeing as there are 2 people I want to lynch more than him, and both of them are on the IceGuy wagon atm

[Parama]

You don't get to have an opinion

You forfeited your right to having an opinion when you voted Ice

[Parama]

Hmmm.

HMMMM.

I get the impression my reads are terribly wrong, but lynching Cheery still feels so RIGHT.
I'm not ready to call Panzer scum yet but it'd be pretty cool if he did something today. LLD too. Both have pretty pathetic activity and input thus far.

[Parama]

IceGuy (L-2)

~ sword_of_omens, kanyeknowsbest, Lady Lambdadelta, Cheery Dog

The names in this line alone should dissuade you from voting me.

Hilarious in hindsight
Note to self: LLD and Cheery are 100% town if Ice is scum

Considering LLD and Cheery are both absent from my town list as of right now
And Iceguy is not absent from my scumlist
This looks like a damn fine option

I'm just terrified that it's wrong.

SINCE WHEN AM I ONE TO THINK THINGS THROUGH THOUGH
NOOOO BRRRAAAAAKES

Vote Iceguy

[Parama]

JOIN THE HOLY CRUSADE

THY KING DEMANDS IT

[Parama]

thy king being, obviously, not me

[Parama]

We can clear LLD/Cheery 100% if Ice flips scum. And PROBABLY you too. That would leave the last scum in Panzer/impy/Messiah and 3 lynches to win the game with
it's beautiful

and well if Ice is town I guess it's not as powerful wizardry as I'd like
but it makes cheery very likely scum

...hmm. I dunno. I do agree it's sort of a wasted lynch if Ice is town but it's christmas if he's scum

[Parama]

I do think it is, impy
so shut up.

Panzer, Ice, why Cheery?
Cheery, what the hell are you talking about?

[Parama]

...
Am i supposed to take you seriously?

...

'cause I don't

[Parama]

Mod: Can you prod LLD and Messiah? Been almost a day since daystart and I'm impatient

[Parama]

oh right I totally forgot

and neither have posted on-site since daystart so meh w/e

[Parama]

proddodge I think

when did this game get so boring

[Parama]

I'll be active here after classes wednesday I promise

this week suuuucks

[Parama]

I guess I should read
starting from where my last real post was I guess

My assumption that he was scum was based on competing wagons, So unless he is scum and the wagon on the townie won out then idk maybe he's scum.

So your stance on Cheery on just day 3:
Lynch him he's scum
JK he's toown and I was wrong
by the way he might possibly be scum because I'm making up reasons for my reads kthx
^what it reads like

I don't know man, I'm confused.

THEN READ. POST CONTENT. DO SOMETHING.

Sounds like scum not liking the need to scumhunt much to me.

And then I headdesked so hard that the desk broke in half and I died from my skull breaking in half so I didn't have to read this game anymore
Like. How can you be this stupid. It's just. Baffling.
Side-note: Impy is either town or will be in 3-way lylo
Side-side-note: If Impy is alive in 3-way lylo, lynch him with unrelenting fury
lol cheery mentioning an ongoing game.
okay cheery, go play a goddamn newbie please. if you don't even know site rules you shouldn't be here.

If you have no time for the game can you just drop a vote on Ice guy and lynch him please so the more active players can figure out what's going on in this game. thx

^
To anyone

You're town but please don't act like you're doing a stellar job here 'cause you really haven't added much if anything to the game thus far
if you keep acting this way it's going to come off as scum arrogance and I really REALLY don't want that kind of paranoia right now

Out of the people wth votes I think the order of most likely to least likely to be scum is Implosion - Cheery - Ice - Me. I'm very lost cause I was so sure Sword and Cheery ewere partners. It's probably best to still lynch Cheery maybe.

That you bothered to include yourself in this just makes me want to kill you with fire. God, maybe impy was right.
And was your entire logic behind sword and/or cheery that they were totally scum partners guise? 'cause no offense but that's a pretty poor way to decide, always vote for who looks scummiest on their own, theorize but don't vote based on pairings until you have a flipped scum to read interactions off of
but this is mafia discussion not game-related so w/e

If you have no time for the game can you just drop a vote on Ice guy and lynch him please so the more active players can figure out what's going on in this game. thx

^
To anyone

Looking for the easy lynch?

Not kidding, I sat with my face buried in my hands for about a solid minute after reading this
this is a new low of mafia lows and I really am ready to just kill you for REFUSING TO DO ANYTHING BUT DEFEND YOUR FRIGGIN SELF AND ACTING LIKE YOU'RE TOWNGOD WHEN YOU'RE FAR FROM IT
SERIOUSLY ICE WHAT THE HELL IS THIS

yes

*slow clap*
Never stop being awesome, Maxous.

I think the best explanation for kanye's death is that IceGuy is scum. He wanted IceGuy dead the most

I'm losing faith in the people I didn't already dislike in this game to.
Why, mini 1436. Why.
LLD while I agree that spyspy isn't on his a-game here I don't see anything in particular that stands out as scummy to me so please provide this quickly and make it worth my time to read kthx
though. 424 leaves me feeling resoundingly "meh".
Most if not all of those reads come off as "I don't have a real read on more than 3 people"
And the Cheery argument while appreciated is kind of unnecessary and not really strong, WIFOMy more than anything
and honestly if that is a crumb, it's far subtler than any reasonable crumb I'm used to seeing, 'cause I don't see it at all
not that implo is the paragon of towniness, but he's certainly not in the deep end of the scumpool either.
Cheery 428: wat

Also Spyrex, Safety explicitly said IceGuy should be the Day 2 lynch. Perhaps he was the target?

in my experience you don't waste a PR on someone you already are planning on lynching, especially one that gets you killed and thus unable to push a lynch if right

How exactly sure this work?

Huh?

see, we're resonating on the same wavelength here.
huh?

Spyrex's post was kinda *whoosh* for me tbh

Anybody wanna halp me with a read on it?

As in "WHOOSH I don't get it" or "WHOOSH I don't care about it/don't like it"

Oh IceGuy could you be any more transparent
Your day 1 points are easily disproved because they are COMPLETELY UNRELATED. Cheery says nothing about his read in ISO 3. In ISO 4 he does. You can read someone as scum without wanting to rush a lynch on them. You at least reminded me of how effing terrible his ISO 3 is though.
Day 2 points: HEY GUESS WHAT NUMB NUTS READS CAN CHANGE
Day 3 points: you hypocrite

all in all this is such a non-case that I'm not even going to acknowledge it
it just seems like an attempt to push the wagon onto what appears to be the only valid counterwagon without putting any thought or effort into the push
...I have just realized that this game is pretty terrible. I blame all of you.
Still waiting LLD I know you have this life thing and all but you've been pretty low-content and under-the-radar all game and posted about the possibility of something actually quite relevant to my interests before deciding that you had a life and left me hanging
443: No his post sucks
444: agreed
445: It should be evident, unless you want to argue why his post is good?

I'm so tired. Of this game. Of everything. It's literally impossible to pick out the scum when you have three derpmoblies riding around doing their best to make sure the game is unreadable
most of all I'm worried about a scenario where all three derpmobiles are town and the scum aren't even having to try to win
'cause with a beautiful day 1 lynch like that this game should be a steamroller but it's turned into a dog chasing its tail (OOH THEMATIC HUEHUEHUE)

I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS

Cheery: Stop being dumb
Panzer: Start trying
Ice: DIE IN A FIRE

fortunately for my sanity there is no way Cheery and Ice are scum together so if we can get one to flip red the other is pretty damn clear

I will say with certainty that reading has thoroughly been a waste of my time, and I would like an apology from each and every one of you

[Parama]

no spyspy I am the scum
also I bloody hope I get killed tonight, this isn't my mess and I don't want to clean it up

I honestly want to hold off on a lynch (WHAT WHAT DID HE SAY PARAMA IS GUISED POLICY LYNCH HIM) and hear from LLD because, seriously now, if there's ever a candidate for under-the-radar scum (my worst fear right now) it's her and I want CONTENT even if I don't actually think I'll care about the content when/if it is given

Out of the three derpmobiles it's probable Ice > Panzer > Cheery right now though
And outside of that, uhhh. hmm.
I dunno, I guess LLD is my top pick? Followed by impy then you? I don't know why but Messiah just doesn't feel right as scum, and Maxous is my one town read
But
honestly
I DON'T EVEN KNOW
someone help me ;~;

The way this game is Maxous is literally the only person who doesn't have some chance of flipping scum at this point because the scum apparently have it out for my town reads
I don't particularly support one lynch over the other and I'd be willing to get behind multiple lynches at the moment

What I REALLY want to see is the people screwing around to get their act together and give me a reason to not policy lynch them in all future games.
god I need a miracle

[Parama]

umm looking at the wagons as they stand
Iceguy is literally me, townbadge, and "the least bad"
aka about as righteous a wagon as can possibly happen.
so umm, just roll with that when/if LLD ever gets around to posting her thing
if the battery gets under 10% we're lynching within the next 24 hours no matter what though so
ALSO
quicklynching LLD tomorrow for abuse of deadline if there is no content today
^THIS HAPPENS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER I LIVE OR DIE KTHX

[Parama]

ACTUALLY NO
Impy, vote Ice ASAP. Spyspy, hammer exactly 24 hours from this post.
I don't even give a damn if he's town at this point, he's in the way, useless, and we need to get this train rolling
apathy is the death of town, quicklynches are more powerful than they're given credit for.

NOW IF YOU'LL EXCUSE ME since I have 1 class tomorrow and it might literally /not matter/ after the exam I had early this week, I need to get to sleep for it anyways because I'm a ~*good student*~ or something like that

[Parama]

p.s.
I sure hope I don't dream about this game tonight
'cause I don't really like nightmares

[Parama]

DO EET

tempting what

[Parama]

no spyspy sorry but don't rush this friggin hammer
24 hours
PATIENCE
VIRTUES

battery won't die in 24 hours anyways

[Parama]

I am disappoint

[Parama]

YES THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I DON'T WANT A HAMMER YET
THANK YOU FOR READING

[Parama]

...
umm

...
actually, never mind.

[Parama]

*takes a deep breath*

[Parama]

DO SOMETHING

[Parama]

FTR I wasn't wowed by LLD's post or anything but
ehh

honestly.
I'm pretty pissed at all of yall morons and with absolutely 0 posting between the last votecount and now there's imminent danger of day ending, almost certainly within the next day if not by the next votecount (though I doubt the day will end THAT early)

[Parama]

I swear everyone just got complaisant after that day 1 lynch.

You don't get to be the one making this argument.
That's my job.

[Parama]

Also I appreciate your vote, and am totally fine with a hammer without claim

[Parama]

it's activity based, I'm not surprised at all it died so hard.

This game, man. This game.
D1 would've been scummy-worthy, but then we had to go and DIE

[Parama]

I'm actually surprised the battery didn't fall even further honestly, with all of 2 posts.

P-EDIT: PARTY TIEM

[Parama]

Vote:Parama

100% scum.

And this is exactly the reason why you didn't kill me last night! \o/
No, really. Could you be any more transparent.

vote: Panzer

[Parama]

I'm actually not sure if I want to lynch Panzer right now, or hunt for his buddy today so that we can have a guaranteed lynch tomorrow if we hit town and an easy win without lylo if we pin the other scum.

It would be super cool if someone had role information that could totally break this right now though but if not whatevs

[Parama]

I'm really not sure I should even dignify that with a response seeing as right out of the gate you've proven to not even bother skimming my ISO or providing any evidence that you've seen any of my posts in this game
yes I'm sure all the content I've not posted is damning and all the reasoning I've not given for my votes is crying for you right now, or would be if you were actually right
please show me which votes were opportunistic
please show me where I'm using "town cred" (which is completely unjustified, I haven't done a damn thing worth of note in this game except lead mislynches on the derpmobile brigade)

And why would you call me out? I don't know, but that wine you're serving looks mighty nasty.

I feel like you're describing your play as mine, and mine as yours.
and that last line is golden too. "please stop being completely rational as to buy into the maniacal ravings of, thus far, one of the most useless players in the game in a game full of PEOPLE NOT DOING A DAMN THING and follow me on my paranoia-fueled wagon off the cliff of disaster kthx"

I do like all the evidence you're using to make your claims, but it's just not good enough. I, the obvious scum, will not be lynched, because you, the very clearly town person, do not have my "town cred" and thus are inferior. Obviously.

[Parama]

I can't believe I actually bothered responding. I should consider not doing that until Panzer puts some effort into his push.

Messiah, your thoughts? Top two scum reads? You're like the closest thing I have to a town read now.

[Parama]

implosion/panzer makes absolutely no sense, it made little sense before today and makes absolutely no sense after the start of D4 unless the two are mentally deranged, and I know at least implosion isn't

[Parama]

SpyreX thy shall be a most worthwhile pawn in my schemes mwahaha

Also. I honestly don't feel Cheery is scum at this point, just hilariously bad at everything
Then again considering the rest of my reads this game
well the scum ones have sucked at least

[Parama]

scum are winning is obv what's happening

[Parama]

notable: only 3 people have more posts than the mod in this game, and one of them has been dead for a day

[Parama]

my god

it's like if the game died

...

so basically another normal mafiascum game

I am totally okay with just saying SCREW IT EVERYONE POSTING ON THIS PAGE IS IMMUNE TO LYNCH TODAY because scum want the apathy and if this is the only way to force people to be active then damn right I'm going to do it
also posts after this don't count.
who of impy/messiah/panzer do you want to lynch today guys

[Parama]

same here buut that's pretty obvious

[Parama]

the obvious being that that's my list, not that obviously everyone agrees with it
though you SHOULD but I digress

[Parama]

Hey Panzer
If I'm scum
Then I'm leading the town to defeat, yes?

So why the ever living hell are you doing nothing about it?

[Parama]

This is a fairly good point parsed poorly.

I'm giving a hypothetical situation, durr. And then pointing out why that situation is nonsensical.

Messiah:
pro-tip
sometimes I miss questions
this happens a lot

in response to your question: there are three people on the lynch that aren't me and aren't confirmed town. of those three, there's a flat null and two null-towns (in that order even!)
so it's completely possible it was all town, though if there's scum on the wagon I'd proooobably say it's LLD
the problem is that this question is useless
it's possible, yes. is it true? I don't know.
TECHNICALLY. 4 players left, 2 scum max (assumed). 16 total permutations of alignment, 5 of which contain 3 or 4 scum in 4 players. So there are 11 possibilities. FMPOV I can cut out four of those which leaves 7 possibilities. Only one of those 7 is all-town. So statistically it's 1/7 chance, or 14.29%. But. Mafia isn't a game of statistics, so who gives a damn?
Asking about possibilities in a mafia game is a colossal waste of time. Maybe that's why past-me ignored your question.

[Parama]

and yes I did work out the math for the sake of working out the math
shut up

[Parama]

my god this game

so Cheery is probtown, and at the very least not dying today
That's... actually pretty helpful. 2/3 of impy, LLD, and Spyspy are scum... hopefully. If Cheery is some scum god who dropped track information through magical night-talk powers right before lylo because he knew people like me would take that as a "I might be dead tomorrow and if note the information is still important" sort of town vibe then props to him and all

now then the smart way to do this would be for me to pick out one of the three as a town read and hang the other two, but that's also dumb because in the scenario where Cheery is scum (which is not impossible just unlikely)
if Cheery was conftown this would be hilariously easy for at least today, since LLD and Spyspy are NOT scum together and if you think they are you have problems man
and that would make impy all but confirmed scum, which... seems more and more likely regardless, but. it's not a certainty.
If I had to pick one scum in LLD/SpyreX I'd have to say... hmm, well, actually, I don't even know. I have this paranoia that Spy-scum has been leading me on all game, but if I get past that LLD is probably scummier. I jsut can't get past that. basically i need to read more.

[Parama]

oh, and Panzer:
blacklisted, waddup. I'm glad you're dead.

[Parama]

:I

ugh, this really sucks right now

[Parama]

spyspy nominate me for a manipulator scummy plox <3

cheery has been terrible all game but
as I worried initially
all the moronic derpmobiles thus far have flipped town
and cheery is like... the derpiest of them all.
so I don't know

[Parama]

Parama look at thus cheeky scumfuck trying to sell you on CHEERY SCUM.

well you realize I'm already considering the possibility right

I'm wondering, worrying, waiting...
I think if we lynch out of these two today tomorrow is autowin, scum have to kill cheery tonight or he'll force them into a 1v1 with them tomorrow by either tracking scum or clearing the other townie, so if cheery is alive tomorrow there's almost no doubt in my mind he's scum. which means I can safely put off even considering a cheery lynch until tomorrow.
I still have mild fears about a SURPRISE IMPY/CHEERY team because they weren't around enough at the same time for a potential quickhammer, but if it is them we've already lost anyways so I'm going to assume at most one of them is scum unless they come in and quickhammer.

that leaves spyspy/lld.
which of the two I have no goddamn clue.

[Parama]

not offended, not particularly reasonable to have any definite townreads going into a 5p lylo.
though apparently the scum have had it out for my townreads all goddamn game :I

like
Cheery is probably town. And Cheery town guarantees implosion-scum. BUT. those doubts. those goddamn doubts.
at this point...
Cheery and Spyspy are prooobably not scum together, in the same way that Cheery is proooobably town, and two proooobably's on top of each other are a definite as far as I care.
and at this point we can safely say that cheery and impy aren't scum together.
so the only person Cheery *can* be scum with is LLD.
in other news, impy is the only person spyspy can be scum with, though the inverse isn't true.
and LLD can be scum with impy.
those are basically the only three scumteams that I see feasible at this point.
the problem is that this doesn't help does it... ugh.

[Parama]

I REAAAALLY want to lynch implosion just because he makes the most sense as scum
but that issue will work itself out if we lynch right today, whereas if impy does flip scum it's almost guaranteed we'll be in the same position tomorrow with LLD vs Spyspy

sigh.
this game sucks.

[Parama]

it's just delaying the inevitable though.

[Parama]

And I'm not confident in you even if you are town :V

[Parama]

ehh. I dunno though. give me a bit to look over things because I dreadfully need to

[Parama]

I've been wrong on four lynches in a row
I don't particularly feel that confident in any of my reads right now

[Parama]

the problem is that the circumstances for Cheery's claim just don't do anything to make it believable
we've had 3 flipped town PRs. none of them particularly strong, as far as I know (what is a prowler?) but also no evidence of any scum PRs to counteract them.
his role could be useful to either side given the right circumstances.
and the one person Cheery hasn't claimed a track on is the only person he can be scum with, though that's barely a thing anyways.

his play just seems derpy more than anything, bad but not scummish bad. so that doesn't help either.

[Parama]

Cheery, what's your opinion on implosion?

[Parama]

reads from day 2 are outdated and I don't know what you mean.

so you're not sure implosion is scum, yes?
and you read me as town, correct?

[Parama]

well think for yourself and provide reads on impy and me then please. this is important.

[Parama]

Would you be willing to cross with implosion as well as spyspy today? That would confirm either you or both of them as scum, yes?
though fmpov that wouldn't rule out an impy/LLD team

[Parama]

ugh y'know what

no

just no

this page. doesn't seem like scum/scum interactions between LLD and cheery. if cheery and LLD were scum together, cheery would already be voting implosion.

that knocks cheery out of the scum equation completely.

which confirms impyscum 100%.

so... seeya day 6

vote: implosion

[Parama]

started out so good, ended up so boring.

[Parama]

question: why did anyone townread me at all? lel.

[Parama]

also, dead qt? the scum qt is pretty damn dull but I'll link it if you guys want

[Parama]

lol at thinking I'm a good player

nobody really played well in this game aside from you d1, really :V

[Parama]

also Puppy MetaPuppy Puppy Puppychat in the QT

I shold have copyrighted Tiger MetaTiger Tiger Tigerchat before Tierce stole it because I SAID THAT FIRST YOU THIEF

[Parama]

I don't wanna win anymore

Poor Sixty

shut up, you made me lynch impy
it was your idea
you are tearing me appart LLD

[Parama]

I don't likee starting d1 with a bus really but Mhork was impossible to not bus so I basically had to or else I'd be dead d2 lel

[Parama]

whatboutit