Mini 1486: Fruit Basket Mafia (Game Over)

[Peabody]

Hello. I'm the new replacement. I got my role PM sent, but I don't see an introduction to my replacing in thread. I'm assuming I'm replacing Uber.

I'll do some reading and post.

[Peabody]

Mnemonic obviously thought Slandaar was scum, so why is he doing nothing to push the lynch? Especially when he wants the town to start scumhunting. Which by the way, that whole post was weird. Wouldn't you see an argument between Des and Slandaar a form of scumhunting if you already had it in your head that Slandaar is scum?

On that note, What caused you to change your TOWN read on Slandaar to a scum read?

Buffy's town.
Slandaar is town.
Muffin is town.

Considering Lucky/ASP was on L-2 when Mne voted for him, I don't see this as a convincing argument he is town. The vote for Lucky was a sheep although it wasn't acknowledged as a sheep.

unvote; vote MnenomicDevice

I'm getting a gut scum read from Des, mainly because his top scum list are against my town read list. I'll investigate this more when I have time tomorrow.

Also I'll be doing more iso'ing tomorrow.

[Peabody]

Okay guys. Let's shake things up. We aren't lynching Buffy today.

Why?

You'll be happy to know that I'm your

friendly neighborhood cop

, and I'm pretty confident it's the right choice to claim here. Buffy vs Drac was my innocent result for the night. *Snips the noose around BvD's neck from the gallows*.

Don't believe me? How about you read my predecessor's post who didn't support the BvD wagon?

I'm fairly confident this poor townshydra was going to be lynched due to deadline panic. Which is why I needed to claim now. I won't be able to post again until this afternoon at least.

[Peabody]

It makes no sense whatsoever for me to claim as cop right now if I'm scum. BVD is not dying today, and I don't understand why you think it should happen regardless of my innocent. It's antitown to lynch our only investigation so far.

[Peabody]

Also a godfather is unlikely in my opinion.

[Peabody]

Why do you think the ASP/Lucky lynch was losing steam at the time of Mne's vote. I don't remember people bailing the wagon.

[Peabody]

Oh wait. Kid A might be scum. Before ASP was lynched, he pointed out Mne's lack of posting. How odd. Especially with no explicit reasoning for an ASP vote earlier.

unvote; vote Kid A

I can provide a quote when I'm not on my phone.

[Peabody]

Uberkang already knew BVD was innocent when he said the wagon on them was opportunistic. He was attacking the wagon on an innocent read he had.

A godfather is an unlikely scenario. I feel the lynch on BvD is completely unwarranted. Even if you do lynch BvD and you get a godfather result, how would that clear my claim? It doesn't. It could look like a bus. And if BvD ends up being a townie, how does that clear me? Scum know alignment of everyone most of the time.

I'm not liking Kid A's disbelief in my claim. Like I said, it makes NO SENSE for me to come out as scum and claim cop. Also, I'm not fond of his ignoring my point against him.

ASP was about to be lynched. Kid A voted simply as a sheep. And then he disappears. When he reappears, ASP/Lucky is at L-1, and he =20670#p5261554]decides to throw suspicion on Mne. Three minutes later, he does it again. This is a last ditch attempt to derail the Lucky/ASP wagon.

[Peabody]

Uberkang already knew BVD was innocent when he said the wagon on them was opportunistic. He was attacking the wagon on an innocent read he had.

A godfather is an unlikely scenario. I feel the lynch on BvD is completely unwarranted. Even if you do lynch BvD and you get a godfather result, how would that clear my claim? It doesn't. It could look like a bus. And if BvD ends up being a townie, how does that clear me? Scum know alignment of everyone most of the time.

I'm not liking Kid A's disbelief in my claim. Like I said, it makes NO SENSE for me to come out as scum and claim cop. Also, I'm not fond of his ignoring my point against him.

ASP was about to be lynched. Kid A voted simply as a sheep. And then he disappears. When he reappears, ASP/Lucky is at L-1, and he decides to throw suspicion on Mne. Three minutes later, he does it again. This is a last ditch attempt to derail the Lucky/ASP wagon.

Tags fixed.

[Peabody]

You don't see a Kid A scum?

[Peabody]

He is town.

Why?

Or did you post this earlier in the thread?

[Peabody]

He is town.

Why?

Or did you post this earlier in the thread?

Nevermind. I see you had a Kid A town read earlier in the thread, but I'm failing to see why you have this read.

[Peabody]

Well if you want an actual post to look at ie evidence thid post and the latter reasoning is pretty town.

oops i guess slandaar was right

VOTE: a simple plan

Have you reevaluated this read since the ASP/Lucky flip?

I can see a FF scum, but it's mainly based on a read from the day 1 wagon on him. I will reread him today with the ASP flip in mind. I didn't see who was lynched day 1 prior to reading day 1. Just like don(?) I saw only Papaya as the dead one.

[Peabody]

jesus christ this is a fucking mess

we are testing uberkangs extremely fucking tenuous inno by lynching bvd

This makes no sense. Lynching BVD does nothing to clear me. GF probably doesn't exist. And if the town allows me, I will explain why tomorrow's phase.

[Peabody]

Oh wait. Kid A might be scum. Before ASP was lynched, he pointed out Mne's lack of posting. How odd.

btw this stupid half case on me ignores the context to my post lol

sorry that my posts are getting so rare

firstly in response to buffy - i am voting asp because theyre probably scum but your weird behaviour regarding asp and ff means that you will look bad if one of them flips scum

you keep saying im your big scumread and you want me lynched so please start making a case or pushing for my lynch instead of just vote parking on me

right now mnemonicdevice is most forgettable player - i'm going to iso him and see if i can find anything

also both hydra heads responding to my last post makes me think i might have noticed something i wasnt meant to notice - it's not the strongest tell but definitely something

and then i did the iso and found 6 posts with no content in any of them

And then he disappears. When he reappears, ASP/Lucky is at L-1,

v/la as a scumtell lol

And if the town allows me, I will explain why tomorrow's phase.

what's stopping you from doing it today

why do you think you will live through tonight despite being a claimed cop???

I didn't realize you were V/LA as it wasn't mentioned in the post I linked. Of course I don't think V/LA is a scum tell. Why did you choose to investigate Mne's iso while ASP was getting lynched? Why were you looking elsewhere?

[Peabody]

Slandaar,

Did you reevaluate your town read on Kid A after the ASP flip?

[Peabody]

Does no one else see the distraction Kid A brought to the table as ASP was on the gallows??

[Peabody]

Soo, let's get realistic about these votes. I don't see Slandaar getting lynched because most of the town has him as a town read.

Mnemonicdevice, perhaps your vote would be better placed elsewhere.

The same goes to Elyse, muffin and Don. Can we lynch one out of Fish, Kid A, and Mne since those people at least have 2 votes on them?

I prefer Kid A. If I have to, I will switch my vote.

[Peabody]

Viera and Stubbs. Place your vote.

[Peabody]

You'll know why I think there's no GF tomorrow.

[Peabody]

By the way, I'm definitely going to keep an eye on the thread. A no lynch is not going to happen if I can help it.

[Peabody]

Desperado looks town based on his cases. They look town.

But one thing I don't like about his posting is that he called for an ASP/lucky hammer four times while ASP/Lucky was strung up. He didn't seem to feel strongly about that lynch until the scum was about to be hammered. I'm considering a last minute vote change because of it.

What bothers me about doing that is the rest of his posting looks town on day 1.

[Peabody]

And four times? Looks like last ditch distancing.

[Peabody]

I'm null on him, but his reaction in the beginning looked like a scum slip. He already soft claimed VT, so I'm showing intent to hammer.

[Peabody]

Le Hammer post.

unvote

vote FormerFish

[Peabody]

To clarify, nobody died.

Ha. I thought I was dead too.

Anyway, I don't have a result today. Why? Because

I'm only a One-shot Cop

.

The reason I didn't do a full claim yesterday is because a) it wasn't necessary, and b) I was thinking that it could prevent a death or give us more information if power roles targeted me while scum also targeted me. I wanted to be a more desirable target tonight, and I guess that worked.

So why do I think a godfather doesn't exist? Because I'm a one-shot cop, and putting a godfather in a game where I only have one chance to clear someone is just evil. Therefore, BvD is cleared. You're welcome.

[Peabody]

well kid A and slandaar are likely town for their reactions to the (actual lack of) night kill, even if i weren't already reading both of them as town. (lol at kid A's five cookes = v cookies = bvd scum)

Why can't a scum be confused whether or not their kill went through?

[Peabody]

Whether he thought I was dead or not, I don't see how that clears him as town. Again, scum could have thought their kill went through.

[Peabody]

There are no other mechanics to my role.

I'm just a one shot cop. Also, the reason the mod made that cookie joke is that because I knew I didn't have another shot, I told him I'd like to use my investigation on the cookie jar to see if there are any cookies inside. That's all. You're not missing anything else.

[Peabody]

I'm actually really proud my gambit worked.

[Peabody]

So either scum isn't killing anyone, or someone else has a power role to protect people. Which I would have regarded as unbalanced because with both a cop and a doctor follow the cop could have been used. However now that we know that Peabody is a one-shot cop, and thus town would still be balanced if it had a doctor.
Is anyone a doctor?

Doctor. Please don't claim.

Rolefishing is bad. Tsk. Tsk.

[Peabody]

I'm going to look over the thread more tomorrow. Tonight I'm busy.

Kid A's vote on me looks town.

[Peabody]

Don, have you forgotten that I am Uberkang's replacement?

[Peabody]

Mnem, your vote on Kid A is not based on sound reasoning. I pointed out your rolefishing and didn't vote you. In fact, if you're town, I can see scum jumping on you just as easily.

Kid A is town based off of his vote on me. I see the light.

I can get behind a VA vote. I wouldn't mind a Mnem wagon either. VA hasn't really posted content. Medic didn't really take action against ASP when he said Slandaar's case against him was excellent. And in retrospect, that looks bad. His vote against ASP at the beginning doesn't really look like something of consequence. I have difficulty determining whether or not his vote on ASP is a bus or a real reaction.

vote VieraAssassin

[Peabody]

Sorry I didn't post technically on Saturday like I said I would.

[Peabody]

The VA wagon is awful.

Mnem might as well be waving a flag saying "i'm scum guys look at me" at this point.

Is the VA wagon awful because Mnem is scummy? Or is it awful by itself?

[Peabody]

why would you care if a wagon is awful, peabody

Why not?

I can see scum in this:

muffin is obvtown
the one-shot cop being mod-confirmed is weird as fuck
lol vca/fencesitting/5 person lynchpools from dj
lol lurkerwagon
I'd look at Elyse/Slandaar instead of shuffling focus around whoever
but lolobvscum dj

And this:

Except that they wouldn't be lurking through the entire game due to that reasoning. However I can still get behind any Lynch all Lurkers policy. Weighing both of these, I think that I like my vote where it is. I think that we need to examine more people, instead of just Me, Don, and Fish, like Viera said.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are partners.

Also, I'm not mod announced either.

[Peabody]

waaaaiiit a second.
why claim one-shot cop on d3 while implying that you used your investigate n1
why do nothing with that investigate for a night

peabody
you scum?

I don't understand. I claimed day 2 and told you who my investigation was. On day 3, I finished my partial claim. My cop claim without the shot number was meant to avoid a night kill on night 2 and to give more information to other power roles out there.

And I'm not mod confirmed.

how do you go from thinking that peabody is modconfirmed 1-shot cop to thinking peabody is scum for claiming his investigation D2 (yes, the investigation he would have done N1) then claiming that it was 1-shot D3?

Good point. Please answer.

Viera, remember this:

To clarify, nobody died.

Ha. I thought I was dead too.

Anyway, I don't have a result today. Why? Because

I'm only a One-shot Cop

.

The reason I didn't do a full claim yesterday is because a) it wasn't necessary, and b) I was thinking that it could prevent a death or give us more information if power roles targeted me while scum also targeted me. I wanted to be a more desirable target tonight, and I guess that worked.

So why do I think a godfather doesn't exist? Because I'm a one-shot cop, and putting a godfather in a game where I only have one chance to clear someone is just evil.

Therefore, BvD is cleared.

You're welcome.

The second bolded point portion of this quote is added for emphasis.

[Peabody]

And by the way,

The whole mod joke based on cookies was a joke based off of a PM I sent him. Since I didn't have a second shot, I told him I wanted to spend another investigation on the cookie jar for cookies.

[Peabody]

Thanks for the quotes, Muffin.

[Peabody]

Hm. I'm not sure if it's a town slip either or that post was just acting.

[Peabody]

Because we gained 2 no kills, I believe we have an extra mislynch. I think. But I'm against policy lynches.

[Peabody]

How much of the thread have you actually read, Viera?

[Peabody]

Elyse, why is Desperado a top choice of yours to lynch?

[Peabody]

should we lynch desperado? i'm a bit confused. I was thinking desp was cleared for the moment. I don't see Elyse as scum with ASP, so I think VA is a fine slot to lynch.

Wait what? Desp is cleared? How?

[Peabody]

should we lynch desperado? i'm a bit confused. I was thinking desp was cleared for the moment. I don't see Elyse as scum with ASP, so I think VA is a fine slot to lynch.

Wait what? Desp is cleared? How?

per slaandar from yesterday.

Do you have any of your own reasons for thinking so?

[Peabody]

Oh haha Radiant...

By Crowley he means me. Hello all! Catching up now. I was made aware I'm sitting on L-1. Please allow me at least a day or two to debate my predecessor's failure.

Kill it! Kill it with fire!

Your catchup post was even worse. Someone hammer please.

So is anyone gonna hammer Lucky or what

Sorry guys... Long story short, with as light a schedule as I took in college, I seriously wasn't expecting to find it this difficult to sign on and post, at least daily if not more, and quite frankly its just been impossible- two days in and already a homework assignment that took me four hours, and that's just one class. Combine that with the urgent need for me to get a job now that my mom is going on leave for surgery, and I'm not going to be able to handle the game at the level I truly want to.

As per the request to claim, I'm Vanilla Town.

MOD

: I'm going to need a replacement, please. This has nothing to do with your game, the setup, any of the players in the game, nor you as a mod, and it was a privilege to play in your game for the time I did. I hope that at a point when I have the time to play to the level I usually am able, I might be privileged to participate in one of your games again; I am truly sorry.

Feel free to hammer whenever

unvote; vote Desparado

The hammer posts are overdone. This looks like some final distancing, scum-scum interaction.

Also I like Elyse's case.

[Peabody]

So why did I blow up Stubbs' supertown reaction test if I was distancing?

I'm not sure if blowing up the reaction test was intentional or not. Either way, you can distance and blow up a reaction test. Especially by how discreetly you did it. I don't think it was inevitable that you blowing it up would be brought up by Stubbs. But it happened.

So what's your response to my accusation of you distancing?

[Peabody]

So,

BvD, what are your thoughts on VA's reasons for voting me?

Same question to DJ.

[Peabody]

Meh,

I don't like that Elyse isn't even voting for Desp like BvD pointed out.

And I don't like the response:

@Buffy
Because everyone was hounding me to make a case.

[Peabody]

Meh. I like the VA case.

But I like the Desp case.

I'll compromise if needed.

And Elyse, it's not normal to write a case on a person you don't plan on voting. That's what the problem is.

[Peabody]

Where is our Mod?

VOTE: VA

I believe that's L-1. If it's hammer, I'm sorry. But I counted twice.

[Peabody]

I don't get the new counter wagon.

[Peabody]

Wow, DJ.

Kid A, why did you vote me at the beginning of the day?

[Peabody]

And the wow was meant to comment on how you formatted your case. It was quite humorous.

[Peabody]

If VA is not scum, I recommend looking at Kid A, but first I'd like to see how Kid A answers my question to decide.

[Peabody]

If VA is not scum, I recommend looking at Kid A, but first I'd like to see how Kid A answers my question to decide.

DJ's case is slowly reconvincing me of Kid A's guilt.

Nice job.

[Peabody]

Wow, DJ.

Kid A, why did you vote me at the beginning of the day?

didnt believe your claim yesterday and believed it even less when you claimed it was a one-shot to effectively clear the person i thought was your partner

I like this answer.

[Peabody]

@mod

- Does that mean Slandaar was a third party or a town-based faction? I'm trying to determine if the cult's win condition is the same as ours as town.

[Peabody]

Great. Well, at least we didn't loose our doctor.

VOTE: mnemonicdevice

[Peabody]

@mod

- Is the name of the role "Named Townie" or is it Vanilla townie?

I know it's a silly question, but named townie sounds like innocent child role.

[Peabody]

Hey,

So I've been pretty lazy with scum hunting lately, and I'll be making a serious effort tomorrow. However, today, I think it's good to at least look at Mne today. I gave reasons yesterday as to how it was possible he was scum with ASP. Additionally, what's up with the:
1) Fake scumhunting; Really? You're going to ask the doctor to claim and then attack the person who DOESN'T vote you? Well... most people didn't vote you. How do you rectify that? You never answered my point about that.
2) A basic scumtell which is a weak case by itself but it was a variation of congratulating the doctor at the beginning of this day phase.

Mnemonic, answer point one.

As for Slandaar, I thought DJ and Slandaar were masons together. Ha. Nope.

I forgot who asked me about my view about what was going on with the fighting today. But, I don't have a strong opinion yet because I haven't read it carefully. I'm going to be busy the rest of the day today, but I'll make an effort tomorrow to answer that question for you.

[Peabody]

hm. i need to rethink mnem actually. there's two things that are making me think he could be town. one of them i can't talk about.

This post is by town.


DJ and T S O, what do you make of Kid A's vote on me at the beginning of the day? This is what convinced me that he is probably town.

[Peabody]

Peabody: why does that make you think kidA is town?

I was thinking to myself that if I were scum, I just pulled an awesome gambit. If I were scum, it would be convienent for me to claim I was a one-shot cop AFTER I claimed full cop because then I'm not responsible for giving any more reads. I saw this line of thinking in Kid A whenever he voted me, and I asked him why he voted me, and the reasoning looked right. I suppose I think he's town because he thought like I thought and reasoned similarly to me. Plus if he were scum, he'd know I'm the cop and that it may be suicide to vote for me.

I still stand by Desp's fishiness at ASP's hammer. It looks like ultra-distancing. Mnem is not getting any less scummier.

Either of these two I will lynch.

[Peabody]

Mmm, so I saw Kid A as scum previously, but do you not see my point on a Kid A!Town?

[Peabody]

My point is that I don't think scum would vote the claimed cop like he did. His thought process matches closely to my thought process on how I claimed. It looks like it was a natural townie vote.

[Peabody]

Desp,

Why don't you think mnem is scum? Did you find anything in his ISO to suggest otherwise?

[Peabody]

Nice. Good games guys. Sorry, I got kind of lazy as I went on.

[Peabody]

Did mafia choose to no kill or was it due to inactivity?

[Peabody]

also sorry for confirmation biasing that whole bvd/ff/peabody thing

No problem. It hinted to me you were town.

[Peabody]

I mean, starting when you voted me at the beginning of day 3. My town read was based on that.