Open 521: Jungle Republic (Alright. We'll call it a draw)

[theaceofspades]

VOTE: Vote: crazyeyekilla


"kewl" spelling.

[theaceofspades]

I think krazy is reading to much into fuzzy's comment. while fuzzy's comment does seem strange and extraneous, i'd have to say that Krazy seems a bit to eager to jump down somebody's throat.

So does boom. reading too much to early imo. though of course my vote was already on krazy, so I'm just gonna say "i'm psychic" so I can brag that I called scum in my first post.

Vote stays. krazy prob deserves it the most out of all 4 people that have posted more then 15 words.

[theaceofspades]

i'd also like to ask why fuzzy didn't even try to play a newbie game first?

[theaceofspades]

Fuzzy is probably newb town.


Keeping my eye on Krazy and Boom. These two are at the top of my scumreads right now.

what made you change your mind from your "uptight... if it continues" post?

[theaceofspades]

I think Fuzzy also comes off as newbie, but I can't help but get a little bit of a scummy vibe off of him. It's interesting to note how he states we should just guess on a day one lynch. Why? That somewhat implies voting aimlessly, which will definitely not catch us any scum, whereas if we take time to look at evryone, we can actually lynch a scum. The chances are usually small in my experience, but we could still catch one nonetheless.

wait. we're supposed to vote with an aim? no wonder i've always lost.

[theaceofspades]

fuzzy's posts (not there are a lot of them) irk me if he's not a noob. Because what do they add to the discussion?

To me. if all you can post is

"Well, some people are mafia, and some aren't, i hope we catch them, because if we don't that means we lose, cause we're town amiright?"

that's not a good town read. It's not enough for me to say anything definitively, but i'm leaning toward scum.

Actually it's funny to me. because the reasons I think krazy and fuzzy are the highest scum-dar trippers, is their reactions to posts about each other.

@Union. Twitching my radar sounds really bad if you say it with the wrong inflection.

[theaceofspades]

I feel bad voting for someone with two of my scummier reads. so

UNVOTE:

[theaceofspades]

Spade , I do not understand your logic on how I am really scummy just because I posted two generic and newbie post at the beginning. If go by that logic the town would lynch newbies the first round every game. As that great philosopher Spock would say " You reasoning is quite illogical"

Not to mention the imaginary argument you insist me and me and Krazy were having, The fact is that I posted one thing about Krazy which was 100 % accurate. He did misquote me .He accused me of being scummy with bad if not scummy reasoning I called him on it .

fuzzy's posts (not there are a lot of them) irk me if he's not a noob. Because what do they add to the discussion?

To me. if all you can post is

"Well, some people are mafia, and some aren't, i hope we catch them, because if we don't that means we lose, cause we're town amiright?"

that's not a good town read. It's not enough for me to say anything definitively, but i'm leaning toward scum.

Actually it's funny to me. because the reasons I think krazy and fuzzy are the highest scum-dar trippers, is their reactions to posts about each other.

@Union. Twitching my radar sounds really bad if you say it with the wrong inflection.

You also say me and Krazy are scummy but unvote Krazy. Are you saying I am more scummier than Krazy. To be honest I am really really confused with your logic and actions. Maybe you can clear things up .

Om

The way I read Spade quotes were that I was scummy because I posted a few posts that seemed newbie or irrelevant. My response was that if everyone used that logic than we would lynch newbies the first round. Okay maybe my argument was bit exaggerated but the logic stands. There is little to no relevance to read newbie posts as being scummy especially at the beginning of the game. This to me is bad logic. Seems like Spade is maybe pushing me to see if i will give a scummy response.

Krazey- You did misquote me but saying that I reread your original post. I think I misinterpreted what you were trying to say. You still are onmy radr but for now

Unvote Krazey

First. Are you a noob? if so, noob posts are acceptable. If no. Then they are not. simple as that. you have claimed to "play this game on other sites" so you're claiming non-noob status. Why post like a noob then? that's a scum read.


Also apparently saying something once=insisting. But then in his next post, he continues the very argument he accuses me of making up..... misqoute vs. not misquote.

Perhaps fuzzy you should look up the definition of "argument" because when two people disagree and try to prove each other wrong. that's an argument.

I also posted a perfectly good reason for unvoting krazy. two scum reads voting him. so I avoid what is possibly a mis-lynch. Yes krazy reads scummy. but no more then you and BOOM combined do. thus, the unvote.

[theaceofspades]

I feel bad voting for someone with two of my scummier reads. so

UNVOTE:

Aceofspades, please clarify this. It reads to me like you're saying that you're inviting someone who you read as scum, and I'm probably the only person that reads it that wau, so would you please explain it to mez as I have a hard time making sense of it?

i don't really understand what you mean.... inviting them to what?

oh well. all I was saying was that 1)i'm voting for someone, i have a scumread on them. 2)two people are voting with me, i have a scumread on them.

so there are a couple possibilities, but one is that the person I'm voting is town and my other two reads are correct, Well why should I help scum? see what i'm saying? i don't want to help do something if the ONLY people trying to do it are my scumreads. UNLESS i feel very strongly about it, which at this point I don't, it's too early for that.

Also, i didn't answer trumpet's question earlier for one simple reason. I went to sleep.
Here's a tip, if I haven't posted AT ALL you can't call avoidance, until i post but ignore the question and just move on.


@fuzzy, i never said it was "long and drawn out." call it what you like, maybe you prefer the word tiff, or disagreement. The fact remains SOMETHING happened and it was strange

also. I'm bandwagoning? i'm not even voting for you. you're seriously over reacting. All i've said about ANYONE so far is "huh that's interesting, might be scummy" i say scum reads as relatively scummy compared with everyone else.

There's a good chance hasn't posted much yet. So that's why i'm not being dogmatic on anyone. It's just plain too early.

and why did you have to "drop the whole new thing" that phrase made me shiver. are you trying to act like something you're not? if you're really a noob how can you just drop your noobyness like that? i'd like to be able to do it too.

you say it's a stupid question. but you're the one muddiing the waters. "Hey guys i've never played here before, don't hold it against me" "wait no i've played this game a lot elsewhere take me seriously."

i find it hard to believe someone would seek out to be called a noob......
i don't think you are. because playing a game, regardless of locale of the game, still has the same basic mechanics. And I don't think that anywhere this game is played is there an expectation to start with "i hope scum are dumb because that will make it much easier for we town people to win"

TL;DR Stan Why are you so mad?

[theaceofspades]

also @ boom.

laughing at your own joke? bad form

[theaceofspades]

I feel bad voting for someone with two of my scummier reads. so

UNVOTE:

Aceofspades, please clarify this. It reads to me like you're saying that you're inviting someone who you read as scum, and I'm probably the only person that reads it that wau, so would you please explain it to mez as I have a hard time making sense of it?

i don't really understand what you mean.... inviting them to what?

oh well. all I was saying was that 1)i'm voting for someone, i have a scumread on them. 2)two people are voting with me, i have a scumread on them.

so there are a couple possibilities, but one is that the person I'm voting is town and my other two reads are correct, Well why should I help scum? see what i'm saying? i don't want to help do something if the ONLY people trying to do it are my scumreads. UNLESS i feel very strongly about it, which at this point I don't, it's too early for that.

My apologies, I meant unvote, autocorrect got me. It seems to me like the way you're explaining this means you'e unvoting somebody who you think is scum... And that's a very odd unvote. Now, I'm really starting to dislike Fuzzy' behavior. Fuzzy, you're a noob to the site, but not to the game, so you aren't a noob. Your behavior is starting to read as scummy. Also note that how you're under fire and you suddenly accuse aceofspades, seemingly hoping to get attention off of you and onto him, which is starting to make me feel like you're worth voting for. This is your Strike 2 for me.

I unvoted because the combined scumminess of boom and fuzzy is greater then the scumminess of krazy. I'm moving away from thinking krazy is scum as i move towards a fuzzy scum. Boom's scumienss is equal to krazy's imo, so with the addition of fuzzy to the mix, the bandwagon on krazy is scummier then the krazy himself.

Make sense? i'm unvoting, because i don't want to do the same things as my biggest scum-read plus a soft scum read, just because their target is a soft scum read. there's much more scum read on the voter side then the votie side.

[theaceofspades]

define habit. no it's not. but in this case there is enough mud in the water that I'm not willing to take the risk of voting with them

[theaceofspades]

i'm with gnomeo on this one. I'm also not a fan of the klick wagon. he's hardly scummy. and frankly very few people have posted anything that could be looked into about them.

Fuzzy bugs me. Just in general.

[theaceofspades]

edit
You seemd to be trying*

simply calling it bad logic doesn't make it so.

A person who make contradictory claims is a scummy read to me. because town has very few incentives to be dishonest (i'd say none. but there probably was that one case......)
Fuzzy "post"
The People "that post is strange"
Fuzzy "sorry I'm a noob"
Time interval
Ace (please stop calling me spade, it grates on me and makes me want to puke) "why didn't you play a newbie game noob?
Fussy "i'm not a noob."
Ace "lying is scummy"
Fussy "you have bad logic and no evidence."

[theaceofspades]

V/La vacation or limited access. Close enough though

[theaceofspades]

VOTE: fuzzy

[theaceofspades]

i don't know why there are so many votes on Klick. he doesn't strike me as scummy really. I can't see a very good case on him.

[theaceofspades]

i personally self voted at least once as town on a previous account.
JS

@ferret. you're guess is as good as mine. Your vibe certainly is a tiny bit scummy imo. nothing you've said just more attitude. but it's seriously not even worth a FoS to me at this point. let alone a vote. cause you could just me a Reggie Miller guy like me.

[theaceofspades]

fuzzy. you not only played the noob card, you lied and contradicted yourself claiming you didn't. and then lied claiming you didn't contradict yourself.
scumy

[theaceofspades]

I know i am pretty much toast but Ask yourself ..have I shown that I am that horrible of a player. If you really think that I am so bad of a player that I would would make the worst possible move than I am okay with you keeping your vote on me as scum

yes.

[theaceofspades]

vote count?

[theaceofspades]

No I never claim scum but I might as just wait for people to say i was.

I was asking a question. Klick self voted... I said thats pretty scummy , than a bunch of people claimed I was scum for saying his action was scum. I was curious how I was scummy bc I called out something I thought was scummy?

because self-voting ISN'T scummy

[theaceofspades]

i don't think there is much to say.....

I think fuzzy should claim. as nobody else seems remotely scummy, and we need to move on

[theaceofspades]

edit
You seemd to be trying*

simply calling it bad logic doesn't make it so.

A person who make contradictory claims is a scummy read to me. because town has very few incentives to be dishonest (i'd say none. but there probably was that one case......)
Fuzzy "post"
The People "that post is strange"
Fuzzy "sorry I'm a noob"
Time interval
Ace (please stop calling me spade, it grates on me and makes me want to puke) "why didn't you play a newbie game noob?
Fussy "i'm not a noob."
Ace "lying is scummy"
Fussy "you have bad logic and no evidence."

i don't think fuzzy is town.

[theaceofspades]

has it really been that long?

I'm not a fan of teh ferret wagon. I still think fuzzy is scum. And I still think BOOM needs some attention as he hasn't posted nearly as much content as I'd like

I'm thinking Om is town. Same for Krazy (although he changed his avatar. So that could be scummy)

bald eagle....there were some early posts that made me want to look at him closely but since then it's been pretty towny.

without looking at content.... just posting still the Union seems the most problematic to me right now, after fuzzy

[theaceofspades]

totally not expecting that NK, will post more when I've had time to think

[theaceofspades]

Why would they do that? werewolves win even if the mafia survive. In fact it's too the werewolves advantage to have someone else taking heat, distracting from them. The werewolves have no incentive to kill off the mafia

[theaceofspades]

uhhhhh scratch that. I misread the win conditions. That's a great theory
sorry

[theaceofspades]

Boom's my biggest candidate. Lurking, but appearing just in time for a hammer, is suspicious to me. Perhaps more so because i didn't think ferret was scum, but still it seems like it was unnecessary. I mean ferret didn't even get time to claim. which is always a problem for me

[theaceofspades]

.... that may be the worst case I've ever seen.

the only parts of that I want to respond to is the end. you can't hold me accountable for meta I haven't read. and I have not read saki's meta.

also. I don't give a crap what you do on other sites.

[theaceofspades]

I said that he wasn't even worth a Fos. That's not much of a scum accusation. and WK? don't make me laugh, i barely said anything

Also I take it back, the worst case I ever saw was in the game i played where Yates tunnled Monkey man the first 3 days. At least you had multiple points.

[theaceofspades]

i belive WKing involves more championing their innocence. Regardless of previous accusations.

[theaceofspades]

Aaaaand? He says ferret's

vibe

is 'a tiny bit scummy' and goes on to state why that isn't even worth a fos or vote - as it could just be misinterpretation.

pre-freaking-cicely.

i SAID IN THAT POST, that it was basically the weakest scum vibe I could have

[theaceofspades]

......seriously?

i'm not going to answer that.

[theaceofspades]

because you're starting to look tasty.

also. it seems to be agreed that Saki hammers like that. which makes that case moot.

you're quite the lurker yourself actually.

I'm going to make a list.

Klick
Gnomeo
Boom.
Clinical lurkers. Possibly scum
Baldeagle
Hyper bad case. probably town
trupetking.
Prob town
Ellaheathen
Krazy
both attacking bad case, could be town or scum scoring town points, WIFOM, but I'm leaning town on both
Om. WK on fuzzy. prob town
Union....null but leaning town.

Klick's lurking has earned a replacement, so i'll wait for that to go through
Boom, lotsa lurk little content
Gnomeo. similar lurk, similar content. lot's of questions not a lot of original thinking. although Boom has been lurking more, and it's doubly annoying from a hydra....
i'd vote either one of you tbh

[theaceofspades]

VOTE: Gnomeo

[theaceofspades]

because you're starting to look tasty.

also. it seems to be agreed that Saki hammers like that. which makes that case moot.

you're quite the lurker yourself actually.

I'm going to make a list.

Klick
Gnomeo
Boom.
Clinical lurkers. Possibly scum

Baldeagle
Hyper bad case. probably town

trupetking.
Prob town

Ellaheathen
Krazy
both attacking bad case, could be town or scum scoring town points, WIFOM, but I'm leaning town on both

Om. WK on fuzzy. prob town

Union....null but leaning town.

Klick's lurking has earned a replacement, so i'll wait for that to go through
Boom, lotsa lurk little content
Gnomeo. similar lurk, similar content. lot's of questions not a lot of original thinking. although Boom has been lurking more, and it's doubly annoying from a hydra....
i'd vote either one of you tbh

Is this supposed to be a reads list? Because it looks like random names glued together.

[theaceofspades]

eagle. stop now. you're embarrassing yourself, stop spinning your wheels and try making some sense.

Lurking mid-late game IS a scum tell. scum has reason to post as little as possible so it cannot be used against them. Gnomeo has both been lurking and posting little content. So he not only fits true scum-tells. he also fits your version of scum-tells.

[theaceofspades]

whereas you talk about nothing

[theaceofspades]

basicly she thinks you're scum because fuzzy was NK'd and he was after Klick. You replaced Klick, therefore you're scum.

[theaceofspades]

i didn't say it was a STRONG case......

[theaceofspades]

? bald eagle. are you seriously this nuts?

[theaceofspades]

UNVOTE:

[theaceofspades]

ill buy that.

VOTE: baldeagle

[theaceofspades]

guys hang your heads and hold the haranguing of miss union.

The first one is not a scum slip. At all. seriously. c'mon.

the second..... i don't know......scum usually equals, "anti-town"

I really really hate playing with hydras sometimes. That said.......I still think eagle was being an idiot.....and union was always null to me....

ugh.

VOTE: union.

[theaceofspades]

btw. starting from "i really rellly....." is a P-edit.

[theaceofspades]

eagle.....how is my vote scummy? if it's a valid scumslip shouldn't town vote on it? how is ald's not?

that smacks of setting up a later mislynch. Please please please.... if you are town, stop "slinging mud" and "half baked pies" calm down, and think.
to drive that point home...

UNVOTE:

VOTE: baldeagle

[theaceofspades]

..... just in this game?


krazy. elle om, irish.

cause they read town to me.

[theaceofspades]

can someone link me this game from union?

[theaceofspades]

??? i'd love to hear the reasoning behind the scum-case on me from anyone. seriously

[theaceofspades]

i fail to see how believing you both to be scum is a scummy behavior.

[theaceofspades]

i love the non case on me. because you were pushing it long before my scummy act of "wanting two people lynched." imo, you're each scum. one on each team...that's my guess. because the fight makes the most sense from that perspective.


also WIFOM isn't always on purpose. sometimes it's just an accusation that has no concrete facts, sufficient for a proof

[theaceofspades]

i don't think you know what strawmaning is..... you called my switching votes between you and baldeagle scummy. I switched votes because I believed you both to be scum, and was teetering on who was more scummy.

[theaceofspades]

I read an earlier question by elle asking me why I wanted to stop Saki from quickhammering? maybe it has something to do with the fact that quickhammering is generally anti town to begin with?

Wow, tne and GiF. cool beans.

582Translator! "Ace was making a bad vote, but i support it" Seriously?

606 "I voted for this person earlier but now i believe he is a potential mislynch"

Aldus, care to explain the rational behind Yggdra's question? i dont understand.

Im going to invoke the "People who look for reaqsons to see scum slips are either misguided town or opportunistic scum" card,i do not see the scum slips and Krazey's accusation is just too obvious to be a legitimate scum slip.

636 Why would town be concerned with cornering out "specific" scum factions instead of just trying to lynch scummy players. Its like specific hunting gives me "rival faction" vibes. There are 3 factions and people who are looking for ONE specific scum can actually be the other.

Im on page 26 right now. Will post more after breakfast. Or after school

i said it looked like he was trying to push a mislynch. not that it was a mislynch. The point being. his case isn't very good. But union's reactions to it, are what bother me.

so he's pushing a lynch on bad evidence. which is "pushing a mislynch" that's an attitude and a POV from baldeagle, that i'm suggesting. My beliefs on unions scummyness were irrelevant.

[theaceofspades]

what question?

[theaceofspades]

union. what have I accused you of that you haven't done? if I recall correctly, i only called you scummy for you reactions to baldeagle.

i'd also like to hear your case on me. (i ask again) because you haven't been clear. you've just been repeating over and over that i'm confirmed as scum.

[theaceofspades]

i only called you scummy for

you reactions to baldeagle.

his case

isn't very good. But

union's reactions to it

, are what bother me.

Two totally different thing.

What you just said was more open, while what you said last time was pretty specific, and the stuff that I haven't done.

If you're gonna accuse someone, at least be consistent about it.

I don't have to make a big fat case on you. Me posting like this time to time is all part of the case.

-L

are you retarded? that's the exact same thing!!!! how is that inconsistent?

[theaceofspades]

I NEVER SAID IT YOU SCUMSLIPPED!!! I SAID I WASN"T SURE!!!


as a hydra it was easily possible that you scumslipped or it truly was a difference in definitions. I SAID I DON"T KNOW WHICH IT IS!!! Ii'm not voting you for a POSSIBLE scumslip.



for the love of mike take a reading comp course.

[theaceofspades]

i subtly changed the wording??????? i was always referring to baldeagle's case on you... because what other significant posting has been done between the two of you? come on it's not that difficult. thanks for putting words in my mouth, I didn't say in general. I just said to baldeagle......which....what would I be talking about? the vast majority (virtually all) your posts reacting to baldeagle are about his case on you, the Scum slip debacle to be specific.
If you can point me to another topic that you discussed, for long enough that it would be reasonable to assume I was talking about it rather then the scum slip thing, then your inconsistency claim would hold water. You won't, because you can't, so it doesn't.

i the phrase you quote about your second "scum-slip" i LITERALLY said the words
I
DONT"
KNOW!
mentioning an issue now = endorsing it? Bull.
that means it's opportunistic? rather, it means you both read as scummy to me. You may notice that this has been my theme. and I have been very consistent with it.

"The event?" you'd never talked to eagle before? he hadn't accused you of anything? you hadn't REACTED TO HIS CASE YET?!?!??!??! that had all happened. And as you so nicely pointed out. that was the main reason for my scumread on you. I would appreciate you to STOP TWISTING MY WORDS!!!!! adding to them. and changing them.

I have no freaking clue what point 2. is supposed to say. Grammar is good for you

the hydra comment was about the fact. that if you we'rt a hydra. I would have voted you first. because the second slip would DEFINITELY have been a slip in my book as a hydra. it's possible your heads had a differing opinion and differing definitions. The definition difference claim would have meant nill to me from a non-hydra. That's why I said I hate playing with hydra's sometimes. because it screws with my reads. My reads are almost always based on posting STYLE and tone. Less so based on content. Reading a Hydra doubles my workload.

@mod. sorry i'll try to behave. try to avoid pissing me off by being totally obtuse though guys. Also. It's spelled "Oi" not "Oy" (just saying

[theaceofspades]

it doesn't matter who's doing the posting. The fact that I have to read 2 different people with different styles for the same slot is the same regardless of whether or not they sign their posts.

am I not allowed to say the same thing with a bit different wording? you seem to enjoy nitpicking at my grammar.

i'm sorry that you think
reacting to baldeagle
and
reacting to baldeagle's case
are two completely different, and divergent thoughts. They are not, but hey. English is your second language right?
also. making a case on someone and pushing it isn't a reaction bro. that's called instigation.

I have a new question.... now that the wagon on you is running out of steam (ald) bald switches to me. Is that scummy? it's basically what he's accusing me of.

[theaceofspades]

om isn't scum..... no way. come on bald try to be better then this.

[theaceofspades]

there's no scum case on her/him (i'm to lazy to look) absolutely none. And I have ZERO gut pointing to her being scum. No gut+no evidence=not scum.

adding to the bald case. he is moving from target to target on horrible to almost okay cases, as if he's trying to find someone that his "points" will stick too. Just like he's trying to look like he's scumhunting but is really just trying to get people lynched.

[theaceofspades]

there's no scum case on her/him (i'm to lazy to look) absolutely none. And I have ZERO gut pointing to her being scum. No gut+no evidence=not scum.

adding to the bald case. he is moving from target to target on horrible to almost okay cases, as if he's trying to find someone that his "points" will stick too. Just like he's trying to look like he's scumhunting but is really just trying to get people lynched.

So basically no shirt, no shoes, no service?

-L

pants are optional.

@BOOM

basically I was saying while I disagreed with baldeagle's case, and pointed out why, I still agreed that union was scum. My views on his scummyness are independent of my views of Union's scummyness.

[theaceofspades]

no. it doesn't. nice try though

[theaceofspades]

no didn't. If you recall my reads are based on style, frequency, tone, and timing of posts more then on topic. Which I have made clear, and I always play that way. SO what I have said is true, I'm not voting for you because you supposedly scumslipped. I'm voting you because of HOW you went about defending yourself.

"it's irrelevant" being a prime example. but not the only one. You're really going the route of "I haven't talked about anything in all these posts"?

[theaceofspades]

Prove it otherwise.
My conclusion is based on what you said and what I actually did.

-L

not my job. but whatever

Yet another lazy response.
But I'll bite that for now.
Then why weren't there any reference to that when you voted me?

-L

why should there be?

Also anything you quote after 569 is irrelevant.

-L

and this is what makes me really not want to give you any quotes. but fine. 541-551, 565. not exhaustive. But I toyed with the idea of not giving you any. so be thankfull

Maybe this will clear things up. You switched between topics faster then I do in normal conversation (read: a lot) so I consider all your interactions with bald as related to his case (or non-case, whatever you want to call it) because if it wasn't on your mind and therefore coloring your posts....you're stupid. That's why I like fights in mafia and in general.

I'll just say it generally so you don't jump down my throat again. I find your conversations with bald to be scummy.

I'm sorry if I don't post every thought that passes through my head (no i'm not). But the fact is I think about the games I play in, a lot. And my views change. I post when they change.

[theaceofspades]

VOTE: Krazyeye

[theaceofspades]

I re-read Krazy's iso, and realized my original reasoning on him was good.

Mainly though. Through PoE i think that scum is.
Om reads town very clearly to me, same for elle if yo

Alduskkl
Krazyeye
Boom
and
Aeronaut.

I'm very sure of this. Look at the playerlist

BOOMSHAKALAKA
Alduskkel
Elleheathen
theaceofspades
aeronaut
KrazyEyeKilla7
Yggdra Union
Om of the Nom

taking Om, Elle, and myself out of the list we get

BOOMSHAKALAKA
Alduskkel
aeronaut
KrazyEyeKilla7
Yggdra Union

5 names. 4 scum still in play. I have a proof that I need to write out involving Union pushing baleagle, the NK and some other things that pretty much absolves her as any type of scum.

We are therefore left with 4 names. I call them scum.

[theaceofspades]

So how is union out of the scum mix so easily when there's 2 scum parties?

I re-read Krazy's iso, and realized my original reasoning on him was good.

Mainly though. Through PoE i think that scum is.
Om reads town very clearly to me, same for elle if yo

Alduskkl
Krazyeye
Boom
and
Aeronaut.

I'm very sure of this. Look at the playerlist

BOOMSHAKALAKA
Alduskkel
Elleheathen
theaceofspades
aeronaut
KrazyEyeKilla7
Yggdra Union
Om of the Nom

taking Om, Elle, and myself out of the list we get

BOOMSHAKALAKA
Alduskkel
aeronaut
KrazyEyeKilla7
Yggdra Union

5 names. 4 scum still in play.

I have a proof that I need to write out involving Union pushing baleagle, the NK and some other things that pretty much absolves her as any type of scum.

We are therefore left with 4 names. I call them scum.

@ ald. yeah it was a long time ago. But the fact is. i'm right. he's scum. so vote him with me.

[theaceofspades]

i just said that union is town....im not pushing anything on her today.

[theaceofspades]

no. i'm not.

and neither are you. so stop acting like you are, and vote krazy

[theaceofspades]

screw it. I'm seer. Boom is not a werewolf, an neither is union.


I read Elle and neither is Om.

[theaceofspades]

not fast enough. I couldn't tell if my soft claim was making it trough .__.

but I figure it's okay. I'm really very extra sure that i'm right. although.... why were you certain that Om was just not mafia at first? i'm just curios, why not just plain town?


i also realize that I left out the word "Town" in my last post.
It should be something like "I read Elle as town and om too." or "i don't read elle as scum and om neither." i messed up my tenses

[theaceofspades]

..... i think it could go either way on the Boom vs Om tbh....

but your point is a good one....we can do them last I suppose. and they'll obviously vote each other so that makes it easy to see which is which.

So Om, Elle, Boom, you all need to Vote Krazy.

[theaceofspades]

works for me.

to my krazy vote... kudos. I was hoping someone would, but i thought it a might subtle.

And isn't this great! now that we're not trying to kill each other we can totes be best friends!

[theaceofspades]

i kinda like this state now. Because I see no way for the mafia to win. The wolves maybe, but to get to the end wolves have to kill at least one mafia, and if they don't do it tonight their chances go way down.

Basically they have to keep me alive the same as town does. Otherwise they have no chance of making it to a mylo, without the town votes wolves is toast.

It's going to come down to the endgame, but it's great to know that the wolves have to hurt their late game, by keeping me alive, just to make it TO the late game.

[theaceofspades]

it doesn't matter to me who is wolf and who is mafia. you're all scum

[theaceofspades]

yeah Ald you replacing saved the wolves' bacon.

YOu were way less scummy then gnomeo and that slowed us down quite a bit....

I felt good about my claim at the time but now I kinda wish I'd waited out one more day as I had originally planned. But it seemed like nobody was taking the hint and I panicked a bit.

I wish you'd backed off faster union. but it seemed like you were still after me.

Also. For future reference guys. My reads are awesome, always sheep me k? I think I called every scum this game, I feel good about that.