Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[Quilford]

Yeah can confirm hydrapassword not working. Contacting admins.

[Quilford]

N, buddy, drop out and enjoy your holidaying. I'm catching up.

[Quilford]

VOTE: BBmolla

scum found, big time

[Quilford]

VOTE: BBmolla

scum found, big time

posting elsewhere
no conviction
no scumhunting
no attempts to engage
not his town meta

[Quilford]

posting elsewhere
no conviction
no scumhunting
no attempts to engage
not his town meta

Do you know the same BBmolla I do? He's starting to play

exactly

to his town meta--lazy, unfocused, whimsical, and genuine.

Get a better vote.

do some research!

(do some research)

[Quilford]

also you know what i see in bbmolla's recent posts?

attempts to disguise his laziness
attempts to feign focus
no whimsy whatsoever

he's genuinely scum

[Quilford]

like actually, maybe you can show me some of the whimsy you think is starting to show up because i'm at a loss here mina

[Quilford]

why would you? you're unmotivated and disinterested in this game

[Quilford]

stating reads draws attention to you. you'd much rather lurk this out. that's your long term scum plan

[Quilford]

oh really? that's my m.o. as scum.

[Quilford]

i enjoy that your only form of defence is wifoming your theoretical scum play

let's all vote bbmolla

[Quilford]

Do you think I'm worse as town or scum?

yes

Where's the meta you're basing this off of btw

in the games you've played

i can't be bothered to collate the things i've seen that make me think this is not you town and really the meta point is the icing on the cake of all the other points so you can disregard it if you like

i'm especially not going to get into a debate with you over your own meta.

[Quilford]

yeah i don't think so bud

[Quilford]

yes

Appropriate answer, but you're using my meta to lynch me, so me not being allowed to use it my defense is ridiculous.

feel free to point out how the traits i listed above

posting elsewhere
no conviction
no scumhunting
no attempts to engage

are not alignment indicative for you

but as i said, the fact that this is not your town meta is just the icing on the cake. it's not really important. people can meta you and arrive at their own conclusions. those four things are scum enough.

You're not even trying to read me, you're just doing "look how witty I am" bullshit and going for an easy lynch

only since you arrived have i been posting with anything that resembles wit

and that's because you've been defending yourself by wifoming your hypothetical scum actions

If you're shaking in your boots you can always pretend this was a reaction test

We 1v1ing?

i don't know? do you want to make this a 1v1 because then it would illustrate how ACTIVE and INVOLVED you are with the game, and how you have STRONG OPINIONS all of a sudden?

[Quilford]

because bbmolla is scum?

[Quilford]

'[i'm doing the 1v1] because you won't do the 1v1'

mmm, makes sense

as far as i can tell we're already in a 1v1. you just want to make a show about it because you want people to see 'how ACTIVE and INVOLVED you are with the game, and how you have STRONG OPINIONS all of a sudden'


'you don't actually believe this read... so you're probably scum'

circular. only 'scum' don't 'actually believe' their reads in the first place.

i assure you that i 'actually believe' you are scum.

[Quilford]

bbmolla it's very very obvious that you want to get into a shitfight because then everyone will forget that you were ever a giant lurker who posted nothing but crap

[Quilford]

Quilford, the fact that you're ignoring me severely bothers me

what are you asking me to do?

vote nero cain when bbmolla is obvious scum fmpov?

your

logic doesn't follow. and your attempts to play peacemaker are bad. please stop.

Hmm, I can't help it but I'm thinking that Quilford is bussing BBMollla.

I bring a case against Molla. Doesn't get interested.
Quilford makes a summary of my case. Molla is suddenly so interested and wants a 1v1.

i have not read anything you have said about bbmolla. pretty promise with sugar on top.

[Quilford]

bbmolla it's very very obvious that you want to get into a shitfight because then everyone will forget that you were ever a giant lurker who posted nothing but crap

hey quilford bbmolla is currently wrecking you
i don't see any fire

there's no fire. just amusement. exasperation.

this is nacho, right?

[Quilford]

Why didn't you read it?

because i didn't see it. surely the fact that i posted my own 'case' instead of attributing my vote to your case makes that obvious?

Actually I asked why you weren't voting Nero. You responded with complete irrelevance.

the fact that i only have one vote isn't really irrelevant

I hate the way you're approaching molla and I hate the way you're approaching me.

can you elaborate

Also I find it rather interesting you note that Nero is scum

from your point of view

. Why did you say that?

i did not say anything of the sort.

[Quilford]

And you're correct there is no fire, but I can't say that I see the amusement/exasperation emotions shining through.

that's a shame.

maybe turn on the tv and watch a few episodes of house if you're looking for that

[Quilford]

'fmpov' just removing the ambiguity of saying 'bbmolla is obvious scum' when he's clearly not to everyone

that's a shame.

maybe turn on the tv and watch a few episodes of house if you're looking for that

would love to, but I'm too poor to afford cable
my dad kicked me out of his house at a young age because i cried once
now i sit in a mcdonalds on a stolen laptop using the free wifi trolling these forums for signs of emotion, just so I know it's ok to feel things
i lynch people who don't feel things as a way to get back at my father, and apparently that means i'm good at this game?
or something

hmm

[Quilford]

You're telling me to shut up

your interjections were really irritating

and I really didn't like the feel of your case on him. Especially the fact that it was a terrible 'OMG revelation he's conf scum guize!' Style.

it kind of was a revelation, i had literally just returned to this game after a fortnight long absence and i hadn't even considered bbmolla before, n and i wrote him off as town in the early game

[Quilford]

Townies don't care about that though.

i think you'll find you're wrong.

Also it's very interesting that you felt like you needed to remove ambiguity. Why?

because i wanted to make my meaning clear

How were my interjections annoying? Also who the fuck are you to tell me to shut up?

They just were. Asking me why I wasn't voting Nero Cain in particular was strangely infuriating.

Can you calm down? I didn't tell you to shut up once. I asked you to please stop playing the role of the peacemaker because there are legit points against BBmolla and he's defending by trying to stir shit.

I don't care. Revelations are sketch as all hell, especially when you start pushing them like you know they are 100% correct. Most 180s have at least a shadow of doubt.

don't generalise. i can think of two other occasions off the top of my head where i have had revelations that felt exactly like my one about bbmolla did.

[Quilford]

You're fucking argument is weak and baseless, and I've fucking called you on it only for you to be like "Oh whatever, YOU go look for your meta."

You're full of shit Quilford. 100%.

what's weak and baseless about

posting elsewhere
no conviction
no scumhunting
no attempts to engage
not his town meta

the only thing you've taken issue with is that last point.

[Quilford]

bbmolla

up until now, when you finally got an excuse to show off that you can fake emotions as scum

all your posting was aimless fluffy bullcrap done just to live another day.

[Quilford]

i don't see how what we've been doing so far is not 1v1ing. it just doesn't have that label affixed to it to show that you've been doing something other than splashing about like an angry magikarp

i'll humour you. i agree to your 1v1. now what?

[Quilford]

up until now, when you finally got an excuse to show off that you can fake emotions as scum

all your posting was aimless fluffy bullcrap done just to live another day.

:neutral:

Spoiler: earth to garuda

'So I will do a catchup soon.'

'Cleaning room then ISOs'

'Blah, I thought I'd get more done. I'll try to make it more of a wall instead of single posts when I get home tonight.'

'Once I catch up I'll town all over the place, it's just doing that is difficult with all the posts'

'Lemme know when I need to do something

Might just replace out, doubt I'll catch up at this point.'

'I'll be here to transfer money and vote whoever we're lynching, don't expect much else from me.'

'But my reads don't really matter anyway, so don't worry about it'

'Post'

etc etc etc

[Quilford]

wow mina

- incredibly patronising
- what are you getting at in your first two paragraphs? what is the importance of the 'first... second, third, fourth' times? you are aware this all happened in the space of a few hours, right?
- fighting meta assessments without evidence with meta assessments without evidence
- misreading my posts (i think bb's not playing to his town meta, not that he's playing to his scum meta (i can't remember the last time i saw molla scum)... and no, one doesn't imply the other)
- did i say 'obvscum' in a way that implied it was obvious to everyone once?
- 'He didn't react like this to any of the other people who suspect him.' so what? how does anything in the next sentences from this follow????
- giant douchebaggery. n was doing all the posting because i was on LA

why are you defending bbmolla so hard?

[Quilford]

'Everything you've said is posturing and repeating the same bullshit list of bullet points you could probably concoct about any low poster. I don't see any reflection or attempt to discern Molla's alignment. I think he's got you pegged.'

this is such bullshit.

'posturing'?

'concoct about any low poster'? (love the 'probably')

'reflection'?

[Quilford]

Is Mina scum too now? LOL

frankly i'm awed at the breathtaking conceit she just showed

[Quilford]

whatever. i thought the points against bbmolla spoke for themselves and would've been pretty clear to anyone who did a simple ISO. i'll follow up a little more and try to substantiate them properly once i get time on wednesday and we'll find out whether i actually come to see the light and accept bbmolla as my lord and saviour like apparently mina does

[Quilford]

???

[Quilford]

mina whaddaya talking about

[Quilford]

vote nero cain when bbmolla is obvious scum fmpov?

This is an awkward statement. Why is it only from your point of view? What does your point of view have anything to do with it?

it is not awkward and my point of view has everything to do with it because i was specifically asked by lord mhork why i was not voting nero cain. so my point of view was kind of relevant.

Also I find it rather interesting you note that Nero is scum

from your point of view

. Why did you say that?

i did not say anything of the sort.

UpsideDown knew he what he had said about Molla, and used semantics as a way to skirt the question instead of straight up answer it.

no i didn't. i was in the middle of responding to like four different people and i genuinely did not know what he was talking about. also, it's not like it's a question that's hard to answer. i didn't need to skirt it.

[Quilford]

mina can you please spell out voided's scumslip or whatever more clearly? tyty

[Quilford]

prod-dodge

will post wednesday

[Quilford]

Wednesday is today here, zMuff. It's 6:51 pm and I intend to post as soon as I can get to a desktop.

[Quilford]

Oh right, you knew that.

[Quilford]

But I mean, I must be town! Look at this scumhunting! Yes, scumhunting I did to look town that was

all bullshit

.

that's not scumhunting

that's posting reads lists

the main flaw in all of your selfmeta bbmolla is that if you're so aware of your scum and town play, then it's easy to fake your town play as scum, so arguments such as 'Bullshit isn't hard to make up dude. I could have reads on everyone as scum. I'm town, and because of that, I don't have shit.' are super weak

as town, you're on point. you address things that have happened in the game thread. as scum you're not. you fluff about a lot more. you're jokier, more capricious, etcetc. also you're warier as town.

[Quilford]

I actually have been developing a theory that LB is scum, Nero is town and scum governed him to secure his lynch

that sounds borderline retarded unless scum are completely confident they're not getting lynched today. it's also suboptimal when they could have, you know, just lynched nero-town and saved the governing for mylo tomorrow if one of them gets run up

nero is scum

i agree with this

[Quilford]

zmuffin apart from your posts explaining why nero is probably scum i don't like anything you've posted since the govern

pls fix

[Quilford]

upside down's Top Three Townreads
Harakiri
Lord Mhork
zMuffinMan

i don't really have any next three townreads apart from pieguyn but out of the nully people i feel slightly better about Lost Butterfly and maaaaaaybe Garuda

so with that caveat i guess the second list is

pieguyn
Lost Butterfly
Garuda

[Quilford]

VOTE: Espeonage

[Quilford]

oh man

i'm so dumb

blaaaaaah

[Quilford]

uwop and BMolla are both scum. They were both scumreading each other, but they were both on the Esp wagon...

your point being?

[Quilford]

o.o

i'm looking at bbmolla and nero for scum

[Quilford]

I'm most confident in Mhork and eagle scum.

why?

you've been townreading mhork on occasion so why do you think he's scum with eagle?

[Quilford]

uwop and BMolla are both scum. They were both scumreading each other, but they were both on the Esp wagon...

your point being?

Shouldn't it have concerned you in some way that you were voting someone with a scumread? Especially after that 1v1?

it was coming down to a you or espeonage lynch and espeonage was scummier

Shouldn't it have concerned you in some way that you were voting someone with a scumread? Especially after that 1v1?

This is dumb. Even on scum wagons there are scum dude.

what???

[Quilford]

Quilford, where's your promised BBmolla case?

???

I can't find it myself, so I need to pester Faraday for the link to the quicktopic to BBmolla's scum game on Westeros, because it pretty much DESTROYS your meta case.

I don't see how a scum QT from a single game 'destroys' anything. 1) It's a scum QT, everyone acts different in scum QTs than in the actual thread. 2) It's a single game. He might have been doing really well.

He's very, very self-aware as scum...and so plays consciously to conceptions of what "town" behaviour is.

This and my reasoning aren't mutually exclusive.

Even if he's changing it up because Faraday and I know his meta, he just feels genuine and uncalculated.

not buying it.

I think he's much more incisive as town.

Also, I think Vote Freezer and Vote Nullifier disappearing when they did are huge points in his favour.

What's this?

[Quilford]

Interesting.

[Quilford]

I would like to direct LB's shot tonight as opposed to having her save it.

yep, j'agree

[Quilford]

i am upset to announce that i think bbmolla is probably town now.

[Quilford]

i'm going to have to reread stuffs D:D:D:

[Quilford]

If I was scum then at least I could make up reads.

Why wouldn't I just make up reads by now as scum

Bullshit isn't hard to make up dude. I could have reads on everyone as scum. I'm town, and because of that, I don't have shit.

i was pretty sure that this was just bbmolla making up shit. i didn't really realise that he was actually referring to his meta as in: he does actually put a lot of effort into making up reads as scum

then lb quoted him saying the exact thing before as scum in an offsite game

Here I am, spewing BULLSHIT, and everyone is calling me town for it. Because I have reads. Do they make sense? Fuck no. But because they don't know it's me, they think "oh this adorable players has silly reads, how cute, he's town."

which is pretty incontrovertible

so i'm pretty sure that bbmolla would be faking it right now were he scum. but he's not. i think he's town for that.

[Quilford]

You guys are both suddenly townreading each other, given the fact you were scumreading each other yesterday.

and the significance of this is

[Quilford]

Yayyy LH mafya! Was not expecting Garuda + Muffins.

tbh I think the main way town fudged up was in giving us all their money

[Quilford]

Heheh yeah you were good at that

[Quilford]

Hey also does Magua actually have two heads and eight arms or something because the moderation in this game was incredible barring that one tiny error and someone with better experience in his games should consider nomming him for Best Mod in Scummies thread

[Quilford]

Also I should thank N for being town all the time except when he was on holidays and then I 1v1d with a Townie lol the lesson here is never let me post, ever

[Quilford]

yus