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or they talked last night?In post 2948, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
Like that's pretty fucking blatant and if this is not them claiming a guilty we'll have words with them postgame.In post 2676, Lush Life wrote:so borky and Iand we are pretty freaking sure muffina is scum!talked last night
plz don't tell me "I don't see it" otherwise i will lose faith in all humanity and you will be responsible."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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this doesn't eual a cop guiltyIn post 2958, pieguyn wrote:and I know you think you have a chance in hell at smooth talking people off your wagon, and it's cute, but you're wrong
see I can do that too
but just to be fair I'll go back and bring up their read on you late D1 compared to early D2"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I don't think this is a cop with a guilty.In post 2453, Lush Life wrote:I'll jump to Dan if it gets traction today.
This also doesn't sound like a cop with a guilty.In post 2655, Lush Life wrote:muffin is a better wagon, but I'm not fighting AD to get it today, he just needs to go eventually.
This doesn't sound like a cop with a guilty.
This doesn't sound like a cop with a guilty.
Again, doesn't sound like a cop with a guilty.
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I have no idea why the limited time I do have is being devoted to pointing out that Lush doesn't have a cop guilty on muffin. There would be no reason they would be afraid to out themselves with a dead strongman, mollie hasn't been shy about outing guilties in the past ever so I doubt Bork/Majiffy would be.
The initial "we talked during the night crumb" cabd pointed out is fucking dumb because 1) this happened after night 2, where Lush didn't have an investigation, and 2) mollie talks to her partners during the night. The second "oh this is the first time Lush agreed on something" is additionally fucking dumb because mollie and bork were taking the wheel later days, likely because they were pissed about Majiffy's shit.
Why the fuck do towns have a tendency to start throwing shit away because "oooh, we're in the lead"? Muffin claimed tracker when there is a ninja in play, which is actually a claim that's pretty fucking likely to be town barring shit like watcher in which case we're probably going to get another guilty on scum pretty fucking soon. Don't fucking lynch Muffin because of vague maybe crumbs because that's what you're doing; cabd, I expect you not to be a complete fucking idiot in situations like this."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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oh i don't know the actual cop guilty on CoK might have helped the YOLO attitudeIn post 3057, pieguyn wrote:nacho what happened to you being #YOLO like you were at the end of D2
instead you're hard defending him. this kind of posting does not come from someone with that mentality
plz don't tell me you and zmuffin both rolled scum AGAIN
maybe just a little bit"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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There's a very solid chance that Lush didn't get a guilty, and I find your push like they did so absolutely retarded. If Lush, as a odd night cop, got a double guilty on Muffin and ActionDan, they would claim it. If Lush got a single guilty on Muffin, there's a zero percent chance she would keep it in her pants instead of crowing to the entire world how Muffin was scum and she called it years before; she would not allow a third person to be lynched that wasn't her guilty.In post 3067, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
And here I started to like you D2... guess it wasn't you after all?In post 3048, Jaqen Hghar wrote: A man thinks a man prior was correct after all. GoodCopBadCop is definitely a BAD Cop and must needs have his neck stretched.
Muffin, I was taking it easy since Cabd told me that we had a cop guilty entering D3... doesn't look to be that simple tho. What does concern me is you hunting the Varsoon wagon and notyour own quick wagon. If you really are town, it should be pretty freaking obvious from the speed and reasoning behind your wagon that scum would be salivating to hop on.
I also don't like how you are writing off Varsoon as very very likely town because his D1 play points to him being town when I absolutely disagree, and echo Jaqen's sentiments re: Varsoon from D2.
I will let Cabd respond to your questions, since you specifically addressed him, but would like your thoughts on my comments.
Nacho, I realize that there is a possibility that Lush may have not gotten a guilty, but why are you talking like its the end of the world with "Why the fuck do towns have a tendency to start throwing shit away because "oooh, we're in the lead"?" That is absolutely NOT what is happening here. Are you trying to say there is a zero percent chance that Lush got a guilty? Cause that's pretty dumb and you are NOT a mafia god.
If there is a chance that Lush had a guilty and was trying to convey that in the form of a lynch push then we should be pursuing that avenue for lynch candidate today. You are also clearing Muffin solely on claim alone? I expect you to actually contribute and not be freaking dead-weight as town.
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And no, I'm not a mafia god and I will probably be closer to deadweight this game than what I usually am. But the reasons for this lynch are dubious at best so you're probably going to have to stick with scumhunting as opposed to MAYBE WE GOT HIM."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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You're completely correct; I have no idea what drugs Mac is ingesting.In post 3217, Sakura Hana wrote:Idk, i thought i read kill cop not kill tracker, so i thought it worked like a gunsmith, can anyone correct me on this?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I think the confidence of Muffin as an investigative target is :/In post 3081, Kagami wrote:I don't think Lush crumbed a target nor do I think it would make sense to decide and stick with a target given the Gaiden flip. Lush made it abundantly clear that the investigation target was muffin, the only argument for muffin's innocence is the possibility that muffin was framed in some way or another, or lush was redirected to a scum.
There's no way muffin was framed in favor of someone on Varsoon's wagon, to my mind, so we'd have to believe lush was redirected. I don't think this happened because I see no reason to think Lush was scum, and Varsoon has already claimed a redirection role."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Mollie doesn't crumb results.In post 3140, Kagami wrote:Ehhhh... I really don't think there's any reasonable argument that lush didn't investigate you, muffin. He clearly did not crumb an innocent, and came out guns blazing anti-muffin despite only having a weak rationalization for his suspicion.
It's not crazy that he jumped off the wagon to lynch the CoK either, though it does indicate that he didn't investigate Dan. He saw that he wasn't getting support for muffin and was fine with lynching an alternative guilty, knowing that his potential flip should result in a muffin lynch anyway, and maybe getting a second investigation with luck.
The pro-muffin argument relies on the investigation being tampered with, not Lush sucking at cop-crumbing.
Jiffy is not subtle enough to crumb results.
Bork no clue but he wasn't the one pushing things.
So not seeing an innocent crumbed actually doesn't mean shit."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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You'd be wrong.In post 3198, Kagami wrote:I think we need the rest of the claims.
My current theory is that the motivator is even-night.
I am mostly motivator but I also have a wonderfully useless action to compliment it."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I don't find Muffin's dismissive tone as anything particularly scummy. He pointed out that it's fairly obvious there was no guilty result (yes) and claimed. I would also use both two shot trackers immediately. Why do you make the statement about GiF loving being misleading as a moderator? What games are you thinking of?
I don't get your point re: 2975."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I didn't. Cabd has a theory that I'm Amaranth.In post 3240, Sakura Hana wrote:
I thought by then Nacho hadn't replaced in?In post 3234, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Really? Because I'm sitting here wondering why you sat there and let ffery and let mollie get into a cat fight and didn't even attempt to halt it"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Ffery left because she was distressed by mollie. She's had those fights as town, as scum, as third party. Her replacing out isn't indicative of alignment; I don't think the "right arguments" or whatever the hell that means would mean she stays in and takes the lynch.In post 3243, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
Ffery's had fights with mollie in the past as scum. You were there for it. Xenoblade mafia. She didn't replace out, she took her lynch. Here, it got so bad she literally spent an entire day on google talk apologizing to me for having to leave because she couldn't take it anymore. I personally think the difference comes from the fact that as scum, mollie's arguments would have been right, at least. But here they were both incredibly insulting to her, but also incredibly wrong.In post 3238, Nachomamma8 wrote:And everyone else, for that matter.
Still wanting to know why you didn't attempt to break it up back on day one."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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What does this have to do with anything?In post 3249, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Gif isn't online so I don't feel safe telling what he told me until I can talk to him."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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In post 241, morph the cat wrote:
Spayhalf aside, I have a crackpot theory that is probably down a rabbit hole on why not to; that I won't be elaborating on until it's relevant if it ever does become so.In post 240, Lush Life wrote:but why don't you want to explore teriyaki's probably correct read on rememory?
I'm kind of already itching to townblock and so is spayhalf.
Here are two instances of you defending flipped scum in a weird way.In post 350, morph the cat wrote:And given she's no longer dictating my pace nor my timing, I'm cool with talking townreads earlier than she was.
T {the inno child; kaze; gaiden; borkmolliejiffy}
LT {tsukasa}
Ffery didn't look mildly town while she was in the slot, and yet you are trying to form this magic wonderland where she's town because she replaced out (still waiting for that one to be replaced). You are currently trying to get Muffin the strong town player lynched based on an incredibly sketchy guilty crumb.
Are you really surprised I'm skeptical of you?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Saying that Muffin was attempting to subtly introduce the notion of bubba being a possible investigate is a bit of a misrep; Kagami asked Muffin who he thought Lush investigated if not him, and then he brought forward bubba as a possibility (in fact, what seems to be the greater possibility). There wasn't Muffin subtly weaving the possibility of a bubba investigate into the minds of the town; Muffin was asked a question and he answered it. I don't understand your point about subtlety, though; why does being more subtle make someone scummier? Why is it more manipulative than outright stating something?In post 3259, pieguyn wrote:
i think you misinterpreted my point. the last sentence isn't what's really wrong there, although it is part of itIn post 3228, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't find Muffin's dismissive tone as anything particularly scummy. He pointed out that it's fairly obvious there was no guilty result (yes) and claimed.
the second sentence is the problem. he's trying to subtly introduce the notion of investigating bubba being a viable move. by saying he'd investigate bubba like that, he's indirectly insinuating others would be likely to do the same thing. this is a manipulative tactic as opposde to just stating it directly
compare to this post in marketplace:
here he says that PeregrineV's paranoia of him was unfounded, but instead of being direct about it, he slides it in at the end of the paragraph. he's indirectly addressing the point by retelling the story of PV's paranoia of him and insinuating it's not the same thing instead of just saying "it's wrong this is why". this is the same tacticIn post 3694, zMuffinMan wrote:PV's issue with me came from something i said about seanald's advertising choice (austerity measures) and why it might have just been a move by dumb town rather than scum. he was cautious of this because a game we'd just finished, i was deliberately ignoring his points against my scum buddy and trying to make it seem like he didn't really have a case at all. he thought i was doing the same thing here for a scum buddy. that was... literally the entire reason PV was paranoid about me, and after a while he gave it up and simply declared a igmeou iirc. so the "similarity" he noticed isn't even really a similarity because seanald was town, lol.
i'll never forget this post because it gave me really icky vibes and i didn't pursue it. that above post is doing the exact same thing =.=
AA:MFA there was both a godfather and a ninja in the game (incidentally there was a tracker but it was mafia). the SK also had a 1-shot dayvig and could force a surprise LYLO although he said after the game this was unintentionalIn post 3228, Nachomamma8 wrote:I would also use both two shot trackers immediately. Why do you make the statement about GiF loving being misleading as a moderator? What games are you thinking of?
(offsite) Mistakes uPick there was a scum bus driver that was allowed to self target and it ended up fucking everybody over because he didn't tell the cop his target changed
this game bc there were 2 encryptors including one that was town (me)
so GIF is obviously the type of moderator who has no problem with putting misleading stuff like this in his games. I wouldn't put it past him to put a ninja without a tracker
his statement about the pm being delayed is a lie and is intended to appeal to what he thought at the time was my situation (not receiving a PM yet)In post 3228, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't get your point re: 2975.
nacho i'll be blunt. you know how good of a scum player zmuffin is. did it ever occur to you this is exactly why? he's dissipating the wagon on him by making everyone run around in circles. this is scum tactic 101 and it's what he's doing here. why the fuck are people so adverse to lynching a PR that used all its shots already? for fuck sake. if he's town then we lynched someone who's essentially vanilla and could easily fuck us over if scum. add to that that he's made some really sketchy reactions already and i don't see why this lynch hasn't gone through yet. unless you're scum defending him because you know your team will get fucked if he gets lynched, that'd explain a lot
It's not a subtle tactic to restate someone's case; it's actually a protown tactic that condenses a wall of quotes into a paragraph. In this case, Peregrine's reasons for finding Muffin scum were bullshit, so Muffin wanted his rebuttal of the bullshit case to be easy to follow.
I see your point and acknowledge that Muffin is not town by virtue of being a tracker.
I don't think he would lie about GiF being slow about giving him a PM, and I don't think that you can confirm this as a lie enough to call him scum. It doesn't make him town, sure, but it's a fucking weak reason to call him scum.
I'm not defending him because he's a PR; you bringing that up in the first place shows that you aren't really paying attention to what I'm saying. The wagon on him also isn't disappearing because of Muffin's awesome manipulation, it's disappearing because someone is actually defending him, the lynch is based on bullshit and someone is finally pointing it out."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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A: I was an anonymous hydra. You find it alignment indicative that I lied that I was in an anonymous hydra? Why is that?In post 3265, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:So this kind of makes me wonder...
A: Why nacho directly lied about that if he's town.
B: Why nacho didn't break up the mollie-ffery fight if he's town.
B: Show me where ffery broke down in thread and I was supposed to intervene and break my anonyminity. I briefly considered interrupting when I actually was in thread and you were being a colossal ass to mollie, but I didn't because I figured she could handle herself (and look, she did). Again, why do you think this is alignment indicative? I value both people as friends and if either were getting emotionally damaged through a fight and I could do something to stop that, I would regardless of alignment. It has never been my strategy as scum to dissolve friendships or allow friendships to be dissolved because those sort of things are the sorts of things I value more than I enjoy the game of mafia. This current line of suspicion is bullshit regardless of your alignment and I would appreciate you not making me seem like an absolute scumbag."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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No.In post 3285, Messiah Complex wrote:@ Sakura: this was the weirdest deadline Cabd post by far:
Could it really be Cabd/Nacho/Muffin though?In post 2356, Cabd wrote:Uh guys once again i'd like to remind you that the claimed mason just said "no touching gaiden" so uh yeah.
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And maybe, if there's a townie bone in your body, you will look into Cabd after Muffin flips town.
I doubt you'll get me lynched, though."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I missed your theory. What was it again?In post 3286, Sakura Hana wrote:So here's where I'm at atm.
Waynegg/Pie <-- conf town.
Kagame/MC/Muffin/Bubba <-- Town from strongest to weakest read.
Unsure on GCBC and Nacho atm, i'd like more feedback on my theory.
Everyone else is null at most until I read the rest of the game
PEd. Not sure, but for now i wanna lynch Nacho if he's truly scum motivator, that thing can hurt town badly."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I assume so.In post 3344, Messiah Complex wrote:
Does your motivation target get to act twice immediately?In post 3340, Nachomamma8 wrote:
No.In post 3285, Messiah Complex wrote:@ Sakura: this was the weirdest deadline Cabd post by far:
Could it really be Cabd/Nacho/Muffin though?In post 2356, Cabd wrote:Uh guys once again i'd like to remind you that the claimed mason just said "no touching gaiden" so uh yeah.
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And maybe, if there's a townie bone in your body, you will look into Cabd after Muffin flips town.
I doubt you'll get me lynched, though.
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And this, crazily enough, is bullshit. You knew mollie was town D1 because she was obviously town; I can't believe she's the best suspect you had in mind.In post 3312, Messiah Complex wrote:We wanted to check on Lush because of the tunnel they were in on us. Either Mollie was misguided, or they were scum trying to push hard for our mislynch. So we picked her for our N1 action and we stole the rod. I had to clarify with the mod about the item we stole, and we found out who the rod belonged to. That is why at the beginning of D2 I was talking about flavor so much, because we had their flavor name but we were trying to figure out what it meant.
As far as dramonic, we don't exactly know what to make of him. Probably a vt, but I suppose he could be a goon.
We have conferred and are calling a Muffin/Nacho/Bubba scum team. Put money on it, put your momma on it, take it to the hole and slam that shit home. This game is a fucking wrap. Let's put the women and children to bed and go find some fucking dinner."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nope.In post 3351, Kagami wrote:I don't get that. The tracker is two-shot, the motivator is two-shot; what's the point of compulsive visiting if no one detects it? Is it a loud visit?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Don't know. Might look later, but a bubba investigation seems like a decent guess, the second one isn't really that obvious.In post 3355, Messiah Complex wrote:
So which two people did Lush investigate IYO?In post 3349, Nachomamma8 wrote:
I assume so.In post 3344, Messiah Complex wrote: Does your motivation target get to act twice immediately?
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Do you think her being tunneled on you means she's scum?In post 3356, Messiah Complex wrote:
We actually didn't know mollie was obvtown D1. She was beyond tunneled on us and she kept voting Varsoon at the deadline.In post 3353, Nachomamma8 wrote:And this, crazily enough, is bullshit. You knew mollie was town D1 because she was obviously town; I can't believe she's the best suspect you had in mind.
We had also been crumbing a PR to her specifically all day, and we knew that they would see us visiting.
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I 1000% agree with this statement.In post 3381, Kagami wrote:
If he weren't the only tracker, we'd have lynch him a while ago on the basis of what seems like the most likely result of Lush's investigation. I have a hard time imagining that Lush is such a poor cop that he completely failed to reveal his results in any discernable form before the end of the day.In post 3373, Nachomamma8 wrote:So, Muffin flips town, you lynch Cabd?
Why do you think Muffin is scum?
What does make sense, though, is that lush was roleblocked or a framing occured. Blocked makes a lot of sense.
In any case, muffin is certainly not a cleared townie. At best he's just someone who hasn't been guiltied.Your role alone is evidence enough to suggest that the tracker-ninja relationship is not a reliable means of clearing a player.
I have trouble seeing a cop, especially those three, unvote their guilty and allow another guilty lynch to die over their guilty result."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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And yet that surviving mason wasn't killed N1.In post 3386, Messiah Complex wrote:
Why? They wanted to get another investigation in before claiming and didn't expect to die after surviving N1 + the existence of a living mason.In post 3383, Nachomamma8 wrote:I have trouble seeing a cop, especially those three, unvote their guilty and allow another guilty lynch to die over their guilty result.
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The possibility of them dying was clearly there, and I don't think mollie would be willing to risk Muffin surviving and coasting through the whole game after she caught him."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Why do the days events matter?In post 3393, Messiah Complex wrote:Like I can't believe you just said that with a straight face given the day's events.
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Muffin is at L-1 because CABD pointed out the guilty crumbs; if that hadn't happened, I highly doubt Muffin would be at L-1 at any point today."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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What does Muffin flipping town tell you?In post 3430, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:can we lynch muffin already please this speculation is weird and frankly not giving us any useful information
I tried to prolong the game because we're 2 scum lynches in meaning we can probably PoE the remaining scum but everyone's roles are so contradictory that the best way to prove any theory is to lynch muffin due to the Lush read which I trust a lot.
I also don't understand your logic here at all."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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It certainly is. And even if he retracts it later and goes "hey guys I was gambitting", it's still an explanation for why he's still alive."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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