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Post Post #2856 (isolation #0) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:57 am

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#YOLO

Vote: CoK
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Post Post #2954 (isolation #1) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:40 pm

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wagon currently strikes me as dumb
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Post Post #2956 (isolation #2) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:42 pm

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In post 2948, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 2676, Lush Life wrote:so borky and I
talked last night
and we are pretty freaking sure muffina is scum!

plz don't tell me "I don't see it" otherwise i will lose faith in all humanity and you will be responsible.
Like that's pretty fucking blatant and if this is not them claiming a guilty we'll have words with them postgame.
or they talked last night?
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Post Post #2960 (isolation #3) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:48 pm

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In post 2958, pieguyn wrote:and I know you think you have a chance in hell at smooth talking people off your wagon, and it's cute, but you're wrong

see I can do that too

but just to be fair I'll go back and bring up their read on you late D1 compared to early D2
this doesn't eual a cop guilty
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Post Post #3056 (isolation #4) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:11 pm

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In post 2453, Lush Life wrote:I'll jump to Dan if it gets traction today.
I don't think this is a cop with a guilty.
In post 2655, Lush Life wrote:muffin is a better wagon, but I'm not fighting AD to get it today, he just needs to go eventually.
This also doesn't sound like a cop with a guilty.
In post 2676, Lush Life wrote:[] muffina
[] danny boy
This doesn't sound like a cop with a guilty.
In post 2684, Lush Life wrote:gcbc, varsoon, kagami

it is danny boy
or
muffina. trust us on this
This doesn't sound like a cop with a guilty.
In post 2709, Lush Life wrote:VOTE: ActionDan

That's what we're doing then.
Again, doesn't sound like a cop with a guilty.
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Post Post #3058 (isolation #5) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:17 pm

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I have no idea why the limited time I do have is being devoted to pointing out that Lush doesn't have a cop guilty on muffin. There would be no reason they would be afraid to out themselves with a dead strongman, mollie hasn't been shy about outing guilties in the past ever so I doubt Bork/Majiffy would be.

The initial "we talked during the night crumb" cabd pointed out is fucking dumb because 1) this happened after night 2, where Lush didn't have an investigation, and 2) mollie talks to her partners during the night. The second "oh this is the first time Lush agreed on something" is additionally fucking dumb because mollie and bork were taking the wheel later days, likely because they were pissed about Majiffy's shit.

Why the fuck do towns have a tendency to start throwing shit away because "oooh, we're in the lead"? Muffin claimed tracker when there is a ninja in play, which is actually a claim that's pretty fucking likely to be town barring shit like watcher in which case we're probably going to get another guilty on scum pretty fucking soon. Don't fucking lynch Muffin because of vague maybe crumbs because that's what you're doing; cabd, I expect you not to be a complete fucking idiot in situations like this.
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Post Post #3059 (isolation #6) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:18 pm

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In post 3057, pieguyn wrote:nacho what happened to you being #YOLO like you were at the end of D2

instead you're hard defending him. this kind of posting does not come from someone with that mentality

plz don't tell me you and zmuffin both rolled scum AGAIN
oh i don't know the actual cop guilty on CoK might have helped the YOLO attitude
maybe just a little bit
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Post Post #3211 (isolation #7) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:41 am

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Hi guys I'm the motivator
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Post Post #3212 (isolation #8) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:41 am

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And yes, Lush was motivated Night 1.
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Post Post #3216 (isolation #9) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:50 am

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In post 3067, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 3048, Jaqen Hghar wrote: A man thinks a man prior was correct after all. GoodCopBadCop is definitely a BAD Cop and must needs have his neck stretched.
And here I started to like you D2... guess it wasn't you after all?

Muffin, I was taking it easy since Cabd told me that we had a cop guilty entering D3... doesn't look to be that simple tho. What does concern me is you hunting the Varsoon wagon and not
your own quick wagon
. If you really are town, it should be pretty freaking obvious from the speed and reasoning behind your wagon that scum would be salivating to hop on.

I also don't like how you are writing off Varsoon as very very likely town because his D1 play points to him being town when I absolutely disagree, and echo Jaqen's sentiments re: Varsoon from D2.

I will let Cabd respond to your questions, since you specifically addressed him, but would like your thoughts on my comments.

Nacho, I realize that there is a possibility that Lush may have not gotten a guilty, but why are you talking like its the end of the world with "Why the fuck do towns have a tendency to start throwing shit away because "oooh, we're in the lead"?" That is absolutely NOT what is happening here. Are you trying to say there is a zero percent chance that Lush got a guilty? Cause that's pretty dumb and you are NOT a mafia god.

If there is a chance that Lush had a guilty and was trying to convey that in the form of a lynch push then we should be pursuing that avenue for lynch candidate today. You are also clearing Muffin solely on claim alone? I expect you to actually contribute and not be freaking dead-weight as town.

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There's a very solid chance that Lush didn't get a guilty, and I find your push like they did so absolutely retarded. If Lush, as a odd night cop, got a double guilty on Muffin and ActionDan, they would claim it. If Lush got a single guilty on Muffin, there's a zero percent chance she would keep it in her pants instead of crowing to the entire world how Muffin was scum and she called it years before; she would not allow a third person to be lynched that wasn't her guilty.

And no, I'm not a mafia god and I will probably be closer to deadweight this game than what I usually am. But the reasons for this lynch are dubious at best so you're probably going to have to stick with scumhunting as opposed to MAYBE WE GOT HIM.
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Post Post #3218 (isolation #10) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:52 am

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I am Merlin prismriver, for you flavor buffs.
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Post Post #3219 (isolation #11) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:52 am

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In post 3217, Sakura Hana wrote:Idk, i thought i read kill cop not kill tracker, so i thought it worked like a gunsmith, can anyone correct me on this?
You're completely correct; I have no idea what drugs Mac is ingesting.
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Post Post #3220 (isolation #12) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:55 am

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In post 3081, Kagami wrote:I don't think Lush crumbed a target nor do I think it would make sense to decide and stick with a target given the Gaiden flip. Lush made it abundantly clear that the investigation target was muffin, the only argument for muffin's innocence is the possibility that muffin was framed in some way or another, or lush was redirected to a scum.

There's no way muffin was framed in favor of someone on Varsoon's wagon, to my mind, so we'd have to believe lush was redirected. I don't think this happened because I see no reason to think Lush was scum, and Varsoon has already claimed a redirection role.
I think the confidence of Muffin as an investigative target is :/
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Post Post #3221 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:01 pm

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In post 3140, Kagami wrote:Ehhhh... I really don't think there's any reasonable argument that lush didn't investigate you, muffin. He clearly did not crumb an innocent, and came out guns blazing anti-muffin despite only having a weak rationalization for his suspicion.

It's not crazy that he jumped off the wagon to lynch the CoK either, though it does indicate that he didn't investigate Dan. He saw that he wasn't getting support for muffin and was fine with lynching an alternative guilty, knowing that his potential flip should result in a muffin lynch anyway, and maybe getting a second investigation with luck.

The pro-muffin argument relies on the investigation being tampered with, not Lush sucking at cop-crumbing.
Mollie doesn't crumb results.
Jiffy is not subtle enough to crumb results.
Bork no clue but he wasn't the one pushing things.
So not seeing an innocent crumbed actually doesn't mean shit.
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Post Post #3223 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:04 pm

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In post 3198, Kagami wrote:I think we need the rest of the claims.

My current theory is that the motivator is even-night.
You'd be wrong.
I am mostly motivator but I also have a wonderfully useless action to compliment it.
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Post Post #3227 (isolation #15) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:19 pm

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I love you too pie!
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Post Post #3228 (isolation #16) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:23 pm

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I don't find Muffin's dismissive tone as anything particularly scummy. He pointed out that it's fairly obvious there was no guilty result (yes) and claimed. I would also use both two shot trackers immediately. Why do you make the statement about GiF loving being misleading as a moderator? What games are you thinking of?

I don't get your point re: 2975.
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Post Post #3230 (isolation #17) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:25 pm

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I do have serious concerns about Cabd.
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Post Post #3232 (isolation #18) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:27 pm

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You owe me a pizza Varsoon.
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Post Post #3235 (isolation #19) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:42 pm

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Why would ffery rolling scum prevent her from replacing out?
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Post Post #3237 (isolation #20) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:45 pm

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Explain it to me.
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Post Post #3238 (isolation #21) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:46 pm

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And everyone else, for that matter.
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Post Post #3242 (isolation #22) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:50 pm

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In post 3240, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 3234, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Really? Because I'm sitting here wondering why you sat there and let ffery and let mollie get into a cat fight and didn't even attempt to halt it
I thought by then Nacho hadn't replaced in?
I didn't. Cabd has a theory that I'm Amaranth.
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Post Post #3247 (isolation #23) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:53 pm

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In post 3243, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 3238, Nachomamma8 wrote:And everyone else, for that matter.
Ffery's had fights with mollie in the past as scum. You were there for it. Xenoblade mafia. She didn't replace out, she took her lynch. Here, it got so bad she literally spent an entire day on google talk apologizing to me for having to leave because she couldn't take it anymore. I personally think the difference comes from the fact that as scum, mollie's arguments would have been right, at least. But here they were both incredibly insulting to her, but also incredibly wrong.


Still wanting to know why you didn't attempt to break it up back on day one.
Ffery left because she was distressed by mollie. She's had those fights as town, as scum, as third party. Her replacing out isn't indicative of alignment; I don't think the "right arguments" or whatever the hell that means would mean she stays in and takes the lynch.
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Post Post #3252 (isolation #24) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:58 pm

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In post 3249, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Gif isn't online so I don't feel safe telling what he told me until I can talk to him.
What does this have to do with anything?
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Post Post #3253 (isolation #25) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:58 pm

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And why does this mean we can't talk about how your slot still looks like shit?
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Post Post #3258 (isolation #26) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:13 pm

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In post 241, morph the cat wrote:
In post 240, Lush Life wrote:but why don't you want to explore teriyaki's probably correct read on rememory?
Spayhalf aside, I have a crackpot theory that is probably down a rabbit hole on why not to; that I won't be elaborating on until it's relevant if it ever does become so.

I'm kind of already itching to townblock and so is spayhalf.
In post 350, morph the cat wrote:And given she's no longer dictating my pace nor my timing, I'm cool with talking townreads earlier than she was.

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Here are two instances of you defending flipped scum in a weird way.
Ffery didn't look mildly town while she was in the slot, and yet you are trying to form this magic wonderland where she's town because she replaced out (still waiting for that one to be replaced). You are currently trying to get Muffin the strong town player lynched based on an incredibly sketchy guilty crumb.

Are you really surprised I'm skeptical of you?
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Post Post #3334 (isolation #27) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:34 am

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In post 3259, pieguyn wrote:
In post 3228, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't find Muffin's dismissive tone as anything particularly scummy. He pointed out that it's fairly obvious there was no guilty result (yes) and claimed.
i think you misinterpreted my point. the last sentence isn't what's really wrong there, although it is part of it

the second sentence is the problem. he's trying to subtly introduce the notion of investigating bubba being a viable move. by saying he'd investigate bubba like that, he's indirectly insinuating others would be likely to do the same thing. this is a manipulative tactic as opposde to just stating it directly

compare to this post in marketplace:
In post 3694, zMuffinMan wrote:PV's issue with me came from something i said about seanald's advertising choice (austerity measures) and why it might have just been a move by dumb town rather than scum. he was cautious of this because a game we'd just finished, i was deliberately ignoring his points against my scum buddy and trying to make it seem like he didn't really have a case at all. he thought i was doing the same thing here for a scum buddy. that was... literally the entire reason PV was paranoid about me, and after a while he gave it up and simply declared a igmeou iirc. so the "similarity" he noticed isn't even really a similarity because seanald was town, lol.
here he says that PeregrineV's paranoia of him was unfounded, but instead of being direct about it, he slides it in at the end of the paragraph. he's indirectly addressing the point by retelling the story of PV's paranoia of him and insinuating it's not the same thing instead of just saying "it's wrong this is why". this is the same tactic

i'll never forget this post because it gave me really icky vibes and i didn't pursue it. that above post is doing the exact same thing =.=
In post 3228, Nachomamma8 wrote:I would also use both two shot trackers immediately. Why do you make the statement about GiF loving being misleading as a moderator? What games are you thinking of?
AA:MFA there was both a godfather and a ninja in the game (incidentally there was a tracker but it was mafia). the SK also had a 1-shot dayvig and could force a surprise LYLO although he said after the game this was unintentional
(offsite) Mistakes uPick there was a scum bus driver that was allowed to self target and it ended up fucking everybody over because he didn't tell the cop his target changed
this game bc there were 2 encryptors including one that was town (me)
so GIF is obviously the type of moderator who has no problem with putting misleading stuff like this in his games. I wouldn't put it past him to put a ninja without a tracker
In post 3228, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't get your point re: 2975.
his statement about the pm being delayed is a lie and is intended to appeal to what he thought at the time was my situation (not receiving a PM yet)

nacho i'll be blunt. you know how good of a scum player zmuffin is. did it ever occur to you this is exactly why? he's dissipating the wagon on him by making everyone run around in circles. this is scum tactic 101 and it's what he's doing here. why the fuck are people so adverse to lynching a PR that used all its shots already? for fuck sake. if he's town then we lynched someone who's essentially vanilla and could easily fuck us over if scum. add to that that he's made some really sketchy reactions already and i don't see why this lynch hasn't gone through yet. unless you're scum defending him because you know your team will get fucked if he gets lynched, that'd explain a lot
Saying that Muffin was attempting to subtly introduce the notion of bubba being a possible investigate is a bit of a misrep; Kagami asked Muffin who he thought Lush investigated if not him, and then he brought forward bubba as a possibility (in fact, what seems to be the greater possibility). There wasn't Muffin subtly weaving the possibility of a bubba investigate into the minds of the town; Muffin was asked a question and he answered it. I don't understand your point about subtlety, though; why does being more subtle make someone scummier? Why is it more manipulative than outright stating something?

It's not a subtle tactic to restate someone's case; it's actually a protown tactic that condenses a wall of quotes into a paragraph. In this case, Peregrine's reasons for finding Muffin scum were bullshit, so Muffin wanted his rebuttal of the bullshit case to be easy to follow.

I see your point and acknowledge that Muffin is not town by virtue of being a tracker.

I don't think he would lie about GiF being slow about giving him a PM, and I don't think that you can confirm this as a lie enough to call him scum. It doesn't make him town, sure, but it's a fucking weak reason to call him scum.

I'm not defending him because he's a PR; you bringing that up in the first place shows that you aren't really paying attention to what I'm saying. The wagon on him also isn't disappearing because of Muffin's awesome manipulation, it's disappearing because someone is actually defending him, the lynch is based on bullshit and someone is finally pointing it out.
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Post Post #3335 (isolation #28) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:35 am

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Although, awesomely enough, everyone is ignoring me pointing it out.
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Post Post #3339 (isolation #29) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:41 am

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In post 3265, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:So this kind of makes me wonder...

A: Why nacho directly lied about that if he's town.

B: Why nacho didn't break up the mollie-ffery fight if he's town.
A: I was an anonymous hydra. You find it alignment indicative that I lied that I was in an anonymous hydra? Why is that?

B: Show me where ffery broke down in thread and I was supposed to intervene and break my anonyminity. I briefly considered interrupting when I actually was in thread and you were being a colossal ass to mollie, but I didn't because I figured she could handle herself (and look, she did). Again, why do you think this is alignment indicative? I value both people as friends and if either were getting emotionally damaged through a fight and I could do something to stop that, I would regardless of alignment. It has never been my strategy as scum to dissolve friendships or allow friendships to be dissolved because those sort of things are the sorts of things I value more than I enjoy the game of mafia. This current line of suspicion is bullshit regardless of your alignment and I would appreciate you not making me seem like an absolute scumbag.
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Post Post #3340 (isolation #30) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:43 am

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In post 3285, Messiah Complex wrote:@ Sakura: this was the weirdest deadline Cabd post by far:
In post 2356, Cabd wrote:Uh guys once again i'd like to remind you that the claimed mason just said "no touching gaiden" so uh yeah.
Could it really be Cabd/Nacho/Muffin though?

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No.
And maybe, if there's a townie bone in your body, you will look into Cabd after Muffin flips town.
I doubt you'll get me lynched, though.
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Post Post #3341 (isolation #31) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:44 am

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In post 3286, Sakura Hana wrote:So here's where I'm at atm.

Waynegg/Pie <-- conf town.
Kagame/MC/Muffin/Bubba <-- Town from strongest to weakest read.

Unsure on GCBC and Nacho atm, i'd like more feedback on my theory.

Everyone else is null at most until I read the rest of the game

PEd. Not sure, but for now i wanna lynch Nacho if he's truly scum motivator, that thing can hurt town badly.
I missed your theory. What was it again?
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Post Post #3342 (isolation #32) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:45 am

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Also, if I could motivate to create a double kill, I would only be motivating scum. There is absolutely no reason to do otherwise.
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Post Post #3345 (isolation #33) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:46 am

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Actually, I don't. I have no more motivates. All I have left are visits.
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Post Post #3348 (isolation #34) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:48 am

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Yes.
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Post Post #3349 (isolation #35) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:48 am

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In post 3344, Messiah Complex wrote:
In post 3340, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3285, Messiah Complex wrote:@ Sakura: this was the weirdest deadline Cabd post by far:
In post 2356, Cabd wrote:Uh guys once again i'd like to remind you that the claimed mason just said "no touching gaiden" so uh yeah.
Could it really be Cabd/Nacho/Muffin though?

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No.
And maybe, if there's a townie bone in your body, you will look into Cabd after Muffin flips town.
I doubt you'll get me lynched, though.
Does your motivation target get to act twice immediately?

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I assume so.
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Post Post #3353 (isolation #36) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:51 am

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In post 3312, Messiah Complex wrote:We wanted to check on Lush because of the tunnel they were in on us. Either Mollie was misguided, or they were scum trying to push hard for our mislynch. So we picked her for our N1 action and we stole the rod. I had to clarify with the mod about the item we stole, and we found out who the rod belonged to. That is why at the beginning of D2 I was talking about flavor so much, because we had their flavor name but we were trying to figure out what it meant.

As far as dramonic, we don't exactly know what to make of him. Probably a vt, but I suppose he could be a goon.

We have conferred and are calling a Muffin/Nacho/Bubba scum team. Put money on it, put your momma on it, take it to the hole and slam that shit home. This game is a fucking wrap. Let's put the women and children to bed and go find some fucking dinner.
And this, crazily enough, is bullshit. You knew mollie was town D1 because she was obviously town; I can't believe she's the best suspect you had in mind.
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Post Post #3354 (isolation #37) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:52 am

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In post 3351, Kagami wrote:I don't get that. The tracker is two-shot, the motivator is two-shot; what's the point of compulsive visiting if no one detects it? Is it a loud visit?
Nope.
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Post Post #3359 (isolation #38) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:57 am

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In post 3355, Messiah Complex wrote:
In post 3349, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3344, Messiah Complex wrote: Does your motivation target get to act twice immediately?

- Des
I assume so.
So which two people did Lush investigate IYO?

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Don't know. Might look later, but a bubba investigation seems like a decent guess, the second one isn't really that obvious.
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Post Post #3360 (isolation #39) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:58 am

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In post 3356, Messiah Complex wrote:
In post 3353, Nachomamma8 wrote:And this, crazily enough, is bullshit. You knew mollie was town D1 because she was obviously town; I can't believe she's the best suspect you had in mind.
We actually didn't know mollie was obvtown D1. She was beyond tunneled on us and she kept voting Varsoon at the deadline.

We had also been crumbing a PR to her specifically all day, and we knew that they would see us visiting.

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Do you think her being tunneled on you means she's scum?
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Post Post #3361 (isolation #40) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:59 am

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Who else were you talking about investigating that night?
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Post Post #3365 (isolation #41) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:01 am

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That makes sense. What do you think of Cabd?
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Post Post #3367 (isolation #42) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:04 am

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Or, more importantly, what did you think of ffery?
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Post Post #3370 (isolation #43) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:06 am

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ISO morph the cat. She did absolutely nothing.
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Post Post #3373 (isolation #44) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:10 am

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So, Muffin flips town, you lynch Cabd?
Why do you think Muffin is scum?
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Post Post #3383 (isolation #45) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:23 am

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In post 3381, Kagami wrote:
In post 3373, Nachomamma8 wrote:So, Muffin flips town, you lynch Cabd?
Why do you think Muffin is scum?
If he weren't the only tracker, we'd have lynch him a while ago on the basis of what seems like the most likely result of Lush's investigation. I have a hard time imagining that Lush is such a poor cop that he completely failed to reveal his results in any discernable form before the end of the day.

What does make sense, though, is that lush was roleblocked or a framing occured. Blocked makes a lot of sense.

In any case, muffin is certainly not a cleared townie. At best he's just someone who hasn't been guiltied.
Your role alone is evidence enough to suggest that the tracker-ninja relationship is not a reliable means of clearing a player.
I 1000% agree with this statement.
I have trouble seeing a cop, especially those three, unvote their guilty and allow another guilty lynch to die over their guilty result.
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Post Post #3390 (isolation #46) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:28 am

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In post 3386, Messiah Complex wrote:
In post 3383, Nachomamma8 wrote:I have trouble seeing a cop, especially those three, unvote their guilty and allow another guilty lynch to die over their guilty result.
Why? They wanted to get another investigation in before claiming and didn't expect to die after surviving N1 + the existence of a living mason.

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And yet that surviving mason wasn't killed N1.
The possibility of them dying was clearly there, and I don't think mollie would be willing to risk Muffin surviving and coasting through the whole game after she caught him.
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Post Post #3394 (isolation #47) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:30 am

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In post 3393, Messiah Complex wrote:Like I can't believe you just said that with a straight face given the day's events.

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Why do the days events matter?
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Post Post #3396 (isolation #48) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:31 am

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Muffin is at L-1 because CABD pointed out the guilty crumbs; if that hadn't happened, I highly doubt Muffin would be at L-1 at any point today.
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Post Post #3417 (isolation #49) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:32 am

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Jaqen, we can get GCBC lynched today without killing Muffin.
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Post Post #3418 (isolation #50) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:33 am

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It might take a while to undo all of the work he's put down for the lynch so far, but I doubt it will take long.
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Post Post #3433 (isolation #51) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:40 pm

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In post 3430, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:can we lynch muffin already please this speculation is weird and frankly not giving us any useful information

I tried to prolong the game because we're 2 scum lynches in meaning we can probably PoE the remaining scum but everyone's roles are so contradictory that the best way to prove any theory is to lynch muffin due to the Lush read which I trust a lot.
What does Muffin flipping town tell you?
I also don't understand your logic here at all.
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Post Post #3436 (isolation #52) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:47 pm

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Everyone else claimed, so you mig as well join in.
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Post Post #3440 (isolation #53) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:52 pm

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It certainly is. And even if he retracts it later and goes "hey guys I was gambitting", it's still an explanation for why he's still alive.
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Post Post #3451 (isolation #54) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:21 pm

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True, true.
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Post Post #3527 (isolation #55) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:01 pm

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Hey Cabd, even drunk Nacho can see you didn't respond to anything he posted.
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Post Post #3529 (isolation #56) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:02 pm

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STILL DTUNK, STILL NO RESPONSE
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Post Post #3531 (isolation #57) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:03 pm

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Oh yeah that's cool sort out someone who's obviously town
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Post Post #3532 (isolation #58) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:03 pm

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Have fun with that!
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Post Post #3535 (isolation #59) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:06 pm

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And some pretty shit scumreads
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Post Post #3539 (isolation #60) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:08 pm

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In post 3536, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 3531, Nachomamma8 wrote:Oh yeah that's cool sort out someone who's obviously town
If you haven't noticed im also trying to sort Cabd's thoughts and figure whether he's scum as you say, or Town as i intially saw on the first 20 pages.

PEd. Odds of lynching scum.
Sort him out yourself, I'm drinking more
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Post Post #3610 (isolation #61) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:40 pm

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I'm gella srn
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Post Post #3611 (isolation #62) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:40 pm

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MUFFIN WHATSGOOS
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Post Post #3612 (isolation #63) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:40 pm

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MUFFINWHATIS GOOD
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Post Post #3613 (isolation #64) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:41 pm

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Excuse me mr. Muffin, what is good this day?
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Post Post #3684 (isolation #65) » Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:28 am

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In post 3555, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 3553, zMuffinMan wrote:ffery and mollie had a fight, ffery left

then cabd and mollie had a little back and forth, and nacho was saying he didn't intervene in this one
Except Cabd was talking about the former all the time, and i have found that quite obvious... So should have Nacho.
I knew.
I also pointed out that I didn't intervene in the later fight either and explained why.

Cabd, you're done interacting with Sakura. Care to answer some things? I'm still waiting on why the Amaranth business matters in the least bit and I'm waiting on why you think ffery wouldn't replace out as scum. You can also make a town case on her if you'd like.
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Post Post #3686 (isolation #66) » Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:30 am

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In post 3557, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 3556, zMuffinMan wrote:
gcbc wrote:Okay by "opening post" I meant his big one defending you.
or ?

coz i could see him defending me like that as town or scum but there's nothing that looks scummy in that

or are you saying he's scum because you think i'm scum and you think this was him defending me?
Mostly the later, but his push on me right now feels like when scumnacho hones in on a good mislynch target and starts going wild.
You have seen me attempt to go for a mislynch before, you know.
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Post Post #3687 (isolation #67) » Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:36 am

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In post 3617, Mac wrote:UNVOTE:

VOTE: Muffin

I read the start of the d2 posts finally, and I see that this is a guilty. Both bork and mollie went from bork not mentioning muffin in his reads too much to wanting to lynch him, and mollie swapping him into her scum pile to lynching him with fire.

I don't care for the argument that they wouldn't have voted AD with a guilty on muffin since all three heads made it perfectly clear they would also vote ActionDan if the wagon gained speed, which it did. Furthermore, the "mollie would out it" argument is also shit since she is in a hydra with two other people who play differently to her.

tl;dr points are moot, read lush posts, muffin probably scum.

I don't know where this leaves me with cabd/nacho atm, will find out.
I mean if you think AD and Muffin both got guiltied, then I can see where you're coming from but otherwise nope.
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Post Post #3691 (isolation #68) » Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:51 am

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In post 3690, Mac wrote:well that's cleared things up a little because that wasn't very clear, what doesn't clear things up is how you can guilty a ninja, which is untraceable to kills
Mac I love you I really do but what the hell are you smoking
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Post Post #3693 (isolation #69) » Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:58 am

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Ninjas cannot be seen. This means they are immune to watchers and trackers and followers and voyeurs; you will never get a result on a ninja that is of the form "player went here". They aren't untraceable to kills and have no further immunity past that.
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Post Post #3781 (isolation #70) » Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:05 am

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In post 3755, Messiah Complex wrote:
Vote Bubba


Serene visiting Bubba would have resulted in her death only if Bubba activated himself. I think now would be the time for you to explain that part of your role.
wait this is actually a good point
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Post Post #3852 (isolation #71) » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:19 am

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cabd is it really that fucking hard to respond to me?
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Post Post #3954 (isolation #72) » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:48 am

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people freaking out about deadline and we still have five days left
i still have no idea what the fuck is going on
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Post Post #3955 (isolation #73) » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:48 am

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sooo
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Post Post #3958 (isolation #74) » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:08 am

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who should i vote?
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Post Post #3957 (isolation #75) » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:08 am

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who should i vote?
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Post Post #4051 (isolation #76) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:34 pm

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In post 4050, Kagami wrote:I want nacho to join us before the lynch too. I remain extremely suspicious of the AD motivate.
What do you think I should have done?
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Post Post #4060 (isolation #77) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:00 pm

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In post 4053, Kagami wrote:
In post 4051, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 4050, Kagami wrote:I want nacho to join us before the lynch too. I remain extremely suspicious of the AD motivate.
What do you think I should have done?
Even holding on to it would be more valuable, no? I would have at least expected you to run it by GiF, AD was very clear that his role was 2-shot.
I could hold onto it, but pretty much everyone seemed limited shot so I was worried that there would be nothing good I could motivate in the future.
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Post Post #4061 (isolation #78) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:01 pm

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I'm mostly upset with Cabd at the moment for completely ignoring everything that I wanted to talk about with him.
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Post Post #4062 (isolation #79) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:02 pm

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I mean I understand that he's frustrated about the game and all that jazz but the questions I asked him aren't really that hard to address. But instead all he directs at me is "Nacho, you need to step it up!". "Nacho, you can't read ffery and I anymore!".
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Post Post #4065 (isolation #80) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:04 pm

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Varsoon, me, ActionDan, Serene, perhaps others that I forgot about...
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Post Post #4067 (isolation #81) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:05 pm

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In post 4064, Cabd wrote:I'm here, you're here; let's talk then; nacho.
Why did you make such a big deal out of the Amaranth hydra situation? What alignment-relevant information did you have there?
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Post Post #4069 (isolation #82) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:11 pm

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In post 4068, Kagami wrote:Still makes little sense to me...
Still don't see why.
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Post Post #4073 (isolation #83) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:16 pm

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HEY CABD THANKS FOR RESPONDING QUICKLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT
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Post Post #4074 (isolation #84) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:17 pm

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In post 4072, Kagami wrote:I would never use a motivate shot that I knew to be useless, so why should I think you would?

p-edit: I'm a little mystified by that, it was one of the first things that occurred to me (I think I mentioned that too)
I didn't expect it to be useless.
Why do you think I would claim to motivate Dan instead of someone like Lush again?
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Post Post #4077 (isolation #85) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:21 pm

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In post 4075, Kagami wrote:p-edit: Dan said he was motivated, there's no claiming involved.
or if I were scum, motivating a partner and claiming to motivate lush
you knew what I was getting at there
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Post Post #4079 (isolation #86) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:24 pm

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you knew what i was getting at kagami
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Post Post #4080 (isolation #87) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:24 pm

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you knew
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Post Post #4082 (isolation #88) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:27 pm

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no im asking why i didn't just claim to motivate them instead of dan
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Post Post #4083 (isolation #89) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:27 pm

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you say I just wanted to throw my motivate away as scum but i didn't have to throw it away on dan, could have targeted Lush and not actually thrown it away
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Post Post #4086 (isolation #90) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:35 pm

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i mean if you approach it from the perspective of nacho who isn't flush with time so not as careful as he might be otherwise, with a bunch of limited roles around him he assumes he can motivate or his role is pretty fucking strange and a claimed kill cop who just nailed scum who has one shot left it really isn't that crazy
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Post Post #4087 (isolation #91) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:36 pm

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and to this day I wonder what the fuck I was supposed to motivate if not limited roles
the doctor???
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Post Post #4091 (isolation #92) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:55 pm

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In post 4088, Kagami wrote:Did you also pick up on lush = cop as jaqen did,
i wish i did
i had a gut feeling that they were a PR but probably would have motivated them regardless of that feeling
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Post Post #4095 (isolation #93) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:21 pm

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i think katarina is town btw
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Post Post #4097 (isolation #94) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:24 pm

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i think you're a butt
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Post Post #4107 (isolation #95) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:26 pm

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I don't need to be around for you to answer my questions.
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Post Post #4121 (isolation #96) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:09 am

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In post 4109, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 4067, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 4064, Cabd wrote:I'm here, you're here; let's talk then; nacho.
Why did you make such a big deal out of the Amaranth hydra situation? What alignment-relevant information did you have there?
I made a big deal about it because I felt like this was scum-you pulling a stunt to fly low, avoid having to make any major waves in the ffery-mollie fight and day one's events in general. Also, it gave me info the entire game didn't have so I felt an urgent need to talk to giffy first. I'm sure we all remember NY165?
but you had the knowledge that i was amaranth for a while, didn't you? (or at least the feeling of it)
it was just weird that i started suspecting you and then you were like WOAHHHH AMARANTH IS NACHO
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Post Post #4122 (isolation #97) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:09 am

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why did you claim bulletproof?
i want to get it from your mouth since prohawk doesn't understand gambits
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Post Post #4123 (isolation #98) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:09 am

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also what was town about ffery's replace out?
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Post Post #4130 (isolation #99) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:20 pm

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In post 4124, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Is this sarcasm or do you really not see how obviously town ffery's replace out was?
Why was ffery's replace out town?
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Post Post #4132 (isolation #100) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:30 pm

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So ffery getting lynched and taking it in Xenoblade as scum means that her replacing out means she's town?
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Post Post #4133 (isolation #101) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:30 pm

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That's the extent of your entire reasoning?
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Post Post #4134 (isolation #102) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:31 pm

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Because you do realize town-mollie incorrectly suspecting her usually ends with ffery responding and posting and not replacing out, right?
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Post Post #4142 (isolation #103) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:42 pm

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In post 4137, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 4134, Nachomamma8 wrote:Because you do realize town-mollie incorrectly suspecting her usually ends with ffery responding and posting and not replacing out, right?
I'm not as good at supporting her through those fights as you were in the Walking Dead game. That much is my fault.

P-edit: varsoon you've already stated your opinion, buzz off and let me talk to nacho thanks.
I don't think she would replace out if I didn't support her there.
She also did fine in responding on her own before I got there.
In post 4138, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:But go back and re-read day one and tell me you see morph-scum there, Nacho. Can you?
Pretty easily, yeah.
The main concern is that I don't see morph-town.
In post 4139, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:I mean, I'm a scumfuck to you, aren't I? Where's your passion? Your "I'm gonna lynch the fuck out of you"-ness? Your masturbatory wall full of things that "Hey guys this is scum talking"?
again i find myself asking what the relevance of this is
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Post Post #4143 (isolation #104) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:42 pm

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In post 4140, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Or maybe this is your plan to sort me? Push me off the deep end since having one annoying arse rage at me isn't enough?

"Oh man I bet cabd will totally be transparent if I piss him off, let's do it!"
where am i specifically acting to piss you off, exactly?
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Post Post #4144 (isolation #105) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:43 pm

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because i could most certainly do the self-masturbatory walls and those tend to piss people off more than other things do
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Post Post #4146 (isolation #106) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:44 pm

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No. I don't think I ever questioned why you weren't motivated this game.
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Post Post #4149 (isolation #107) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:46 pm

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In post 4142, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't think she would replace out if I didn't support her there.
She also did fine in responding on her own before I got there.
Do you think my characterization of ffery's play in Walking Dead is unfair?
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Post Post #4151 (isolation #108) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:47 pm

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In post 4148, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:There's very few players I expect to correctly find town-me; and you're one of them.
I can very very very rarely read you, and in this specific clusterfuck of a game, reading you isn't exactly easy.
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Post Post #4152 (isolation #109) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:51 pm

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and i guess there's nothing i can do since i have work soon and you're leaving again.
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Post Post #4157 (isolation #110) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:04 pm

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In post 241, morph the cat wrote:
In post 240, Lush Life wrote:but why don't you want to explore teriyaki's probably correct read on rememory?
Spayhalf aside, I have a crackpot theory that is probably down a rabbit hole on why not to; that I won't be elaborating on until it's relevant if it ever does become so.

I'm kind of already itching to townblock and so is spayhalf.
This is a strange interaction with flipped scum.
This elaboration would be wonderfully relevant now.
In post 256, morph the cat wrote:As for my other head, transparency is her thing.
You're right with this.
On a scale of 1-10, how transparent was ffery this game? (1)
Would you be reading ffery in the morph slot as town in my position? (no)
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This is the second weird interaction with flipped scum.

I don't think ffery's replace out was trust tell town levels like you said it would be. I think ffery's replace out was alignment neutral; I don't think she'd be happy to replace out as either alignment and just because you have a scum role PM doesn't mean that you can't get frustrated in all the same way. I'm sure you recognize that her getting lynched in Xenoblade instead of replacing out (especially considering this was before everyone was so raw with one another) doesn't actually mean that she has honor to stay in and take the lynch in the end: her staying in Space Mafia after Wake's idiocy shows that she can "take" a lynch as town as well.
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Post Post #4163 (isolation #111) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:13 pm

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It would have been ignored almost entirely if you didn't bring it up as a major point of contention for your slot being town, if you didn't probably have the entire scumteam in your preliminary townlists, things like that.
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Post Post #4165 (isolation #112) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:15 pm

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Yes.
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Post Post #4166 (isolation #113) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:15 pm

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aka probably
if you're town, muffin might be scum, dramonic seems scum...
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Post Post #4169 (isolation #114) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:17 pm

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last one might be in the true null/scum lean list, though
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Post Post #4170 (isolation #115) » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:17 pm

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i was referring more to the joint list you made with prohawk
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Post Post #4309 (isolation #116) » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:11 am

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In post 4226, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Nacho dude, you should be off work by now. Come on, I still have stuff to discuss with you.
i work to the extreme now.
will be back in an hour.
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Post Post #4318 (isolation #117) » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:30 am

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Vote: dramonic


muffin let's lynch this please
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Post Post #4320 (isolation #118) » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:45 am

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they can probably have a goon too
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Post Post #4321 (isolation #119) » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:46 am

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i mean i see your point but let's just lynch him
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Post Post #4324 (isolation #120) » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:59 am

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In post 4322, Messiah Complex wrote:Nacho, why don't you want to lynch Cabd?

- Des
i'm having doubts
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Post Post #4328 (isolation #121) » Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:17 am

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In post 4325, Messiah Complex wrote:
In post 4323, Varsoon wrote:Saki, Messiah, and Muffin all feel like low-hanging fruit.
:igmeou:

@ Nacho: Based on what?
feelings, probably
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Post Post #4366 (isolation #122) » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:12 am

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In post 4334, Saki wrote:
In post 4328, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 4325, Messiah Complex wrote:
In post 4323, Varsoon wrote:Saki, Messiah, and Muffin all feel like low-hanging fruit.
:igmeou:

@ Nacho: Based on what?
feelings, probably
so you think both muffin and cabd are town?

too naive
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Post Post #4368 (isolation #123) » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:15 am

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In post 4342, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 4318, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Vote: dramonic


muffin let's lynch this please
Reach out noted, but how sure are you? I don't mind since it's both not me and a decent shot at scum, but I wanna make sure you're good. The last thing I want to happen is we mislynch somebody today, then me tomrorrow, and then oh hey we're back to even footing instead of in the lead by far.
then don't get mislynched tomorrow!
In post 4343, Kagami wrote:^this post is terrible -_-
it's not terrible, just manipulative
unfortunately, manipulative is not an adjective that applies exclusively to scum-cabd.
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Post Post #4421 (isolation #124) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:57 am

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In post 4414, Saki wrote:
In post 4413, Saki wrote:VOTE: GoodCop_BadCop
^ not going to move btw
Why not?
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Post Post #4482 (isolation #125) » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:48 pm

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In post 4426, Saki wrote:
In post 4421, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 4414, Saki wrote:
In post 4413, Saki wrote:VOTE: GoodCop_BadCop
^ not going to move btw
Why not?
Why should it move?
That's not quite what I asked.
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Post Post #4779 (isolation #126) » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:25 pm

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DODGE DODGE DODGE
sorry, but dodge
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Post Post #4832 (isolation #127) » Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:24 am

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I said fuck it to the last 10 pages.
Cabd, where are you?
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Post Post #4833 (isolation #128) » Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:24 am

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My sweet emo child.
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Post Post #4835 (isolation #129) » Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:32 am

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Why talk to Wayne? Who is scum?
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Post Post #4874 (isolation #130) » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:52 pm

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In post 4873, Jaqen Hghar wrote:
In post 4871, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:I do! Its called lying Waynegg. I can't wait to read the laughter from the mafia QT.

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If you spent half the effort doing town things that you're spending on trying to convince others I'm throwing the game, based solely on a grudge carried only by your other half, you know what? I might actually start to think you're town. All the Appeal to Emotion and dismissal of valid point by way of defamation aren't helping your cause.
This is a fine point.
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Post Post #4878 (isolation #131) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:37 am

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In post 4877, zMuffinMan wrote:
nacho wrote:This is a fine point
i thought you had a town read on cabd
I do.
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Post Post #4911 (isolation #132) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:52 am

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In post 4909, Varsoon wrote:Looking at it, Bubba situating this as GCBC x Varsoon is so fucking awkward.
Awkward, but I don't think it's particularly scummy.
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Post Post #4912 (isolation #133) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:53 am

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Vote: GCBC
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Post Post #4942 (isolation #134) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:58 am

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In post 4915, zMuffinMan wrote:
nacho wrote:Awkward, but I don't think it's particularly scummy
what is your read on bubba?

and what happened to your read on cabd?
town

i dunno, maybe it faded from apathy
In post 4940, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:All the missing posts iirc were wayne asking giffy a billion questions and decideing varsoon was scum?

Does anyone else remember how that went down?
nope
do you particularly care?
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Post Post #5100 (isolation #135) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:37 am

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shut the fuck up with suggestions to lynch bubba

unvote
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Post Post #5391 (isolation #136) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:17 am

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OH SHIT I WASN'T USELESS WHY DIDN'T WE ASK THAT BEFORE
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Post Post #5406 (isolation #137) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:21 am

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In post 5404, ActionDan wrote:I have sure contributed to destroy ing this town bubba what with my persistent resistance to town lynched besides varsoon D1
hey sexy who do you want to lynch today
let's not kill GCBC k???
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Post Post #5408 (isolation #138) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:24 am

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I'm fucking unpredictable aren't I.
Who do you want to kill?
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Post Post #5409 (isolation #139) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:25 am

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Especially considering I'm confirmed town after GiF answer to that question
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Post Post #5411 (isolation #140) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:26 am

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Vote: Saki


SAY SOMETHING IM GIVING UP ON U
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Post Post #5413 (isolation #141) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:28 am

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No you weren't.
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Post Post #5416 (isolation #142) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:31 am

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In Canada? Yes.
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Post Post #5509 (isolation #143) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:34 am

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In post 5423, MafiaSSK wrote:Three votes on Saki all without reasoning? Something smells fishy here.
I don't necessarily think that a whole lot of reasoning needs to be put out in order to lynch Saki at this point. No matter which way you split the playerlist, Saki always ends up being in the sections of scumminess, and he usually ends up there regardless of your parameters of what is scummy and what is townie. His predecessor also didn't really do anything of note or anything even close to being of note, his role does nothing to add to his towniness... defusing the wagon because people aren't reasoning why someone should be lynched when they're really the defacto lynch at this point doesn't exactly help anyone. But if you really need a reason to lynch Saki, here's what set today's lynch in stone for me recently:
In post 5430, Saki wrote:I can't even tell scum apart from town atm because all you guys want to do is lynch the single most useless/hated person around instead of actually looking for scum based off 5000+ pages and role madness.
Saki is generally comfortable in having an anti-town playstyle, generally brags about an antitown playstyle, and when people threaten him with lynches he usually shrugs them off because he truly doesn't give a shit. When he is scum, there's this tiny tiny survivalistic edge that comes out from time to time, and came out here in him trying to blame lack of reads on people trying to lynch him, which is absolute bullshit.
In post 5443, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:Nacho, please explain what you've been doing the past nights.
I've been waiting until GiF sends me the 24 hour warning PM and then asking him what random number he picked for me. Last two nights, I targeted ActionDan and GCBC, I think.
In post 5447, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:I'm really having my doubts on your claim because Muffin is sort of being towny looking
What does Muffin's alignment have to do with mine?
In post 5453, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:Among those, GCBC just doesn't really fit as town. As much as I'd hate to be a major hypocrite, that would mean him and Sakura would be scumbuddies.
Also not understanding where this came from.
In post 5470, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:How is 5467 an example of Bubba not actually reading anything? You sound like a broken record Muffin.
He gave the rolecop to Jaqen. He didn't rolecop Jaqen. If Bubba read a little more closely, he would have understood that bit or he would have had more problems than just the rolecop Jaqen claim.
In post 5486, pieguyn wrote:he was pushing a 16-4-1 in a setup spec post earlier despite the fact if he's town bulletproof there's almost certainly 5 scum. and I think if he was town here, he'd realize that
What does this mean, exactly?
In post 5486, pieguyn wrote:@zmuffin and Nacho why don't you wanna lynch GCBC?
Fatalism seems pretty real.
In post 5488, pieguyn wrote:btw, I hate the idea of a saki lynch right now. it feels like I'm walking into a trap

vote: GCBC
this additionally is really really stupid
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Post Post #5544 (isolation #144) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:05 pm

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I'm town.
Cabd town?
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Post Post #5545 (isolation #145) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:06 pm

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SSK town?
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Post Post #5547 (isolation #146) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:07 pm

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Reads were pretty shit this game.

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Post Post #5548 (isolation #147) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:08 pm

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Tracker makes sense considering ninja+visitor though.
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Post Post #5551 (isolation #148) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:30 pm

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Heavy bus, maybe SK.
Probably heavy bus.

SSK town was due to role, but then I threw that out.
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Post Post #5552 (isolation #149) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:30 pm

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Wanna vote Katarina with me? Could be fun!
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Post Post #5555 (isolation #150) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:39 pm

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Don't really see too much problem with that.
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Post Post #5591 (isolation #151) » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:20 pm

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Vote: Bubba


Let's kill Bubba then.
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Post Post #5622 (isolation #152) » Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:42 am

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Katarina
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Post Post #5740 (isolation #153) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:18 pm

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intent to hammer
ad, pls claim
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Post Post #5741 (isolation #154) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:19 pm

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y did ad claim
y did everyone claim
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Post Post #5744 (isolation #155) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:31 pm

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But if we lynch scum today SK can shoot scum and then we could lynch SK tomorrow!
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Post Post #5748 (isolation #156) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:35 pm

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Hmmm... AD kill cop claim was pretty good!
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Post Post #5793 (isolation #157) » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:53 pm

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Okay. I've decided.
Game ends in a rap battle or a championship game of hangman.
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Post Post #5794 (isolation #158) » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:55 pm

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Or I can ROLL THE DICE, but that seems considerably less fun.
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Post Post #5806 (isolation #159) » Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:50 pm

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Gif, please prod ActionDan :(
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Post Post #5809 (isolation #160) » Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:27 am

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GOOD
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Post Post #5815 (isolation #161) » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:20 am

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no rap battle answer?
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Post Post #5819 (isolation #162) » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:23 am

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That's pretty true.
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Post Post #5821 (isolation #163) » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:32 am

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Sounds good to me! I feel like we're leaving Kat out, though.
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Post Post #5824 (isolation #164) » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:40 am

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Thanks muffin!
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Post Post #5834 (isolation #165) » Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:35 am

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RAP BATTLE TODAY
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Post Post #5841 (isolation #166) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:40 pm

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you've let us all down
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Post Post #5842 (isolation #167) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:43 pm

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Don't you worry, that hurt as much for me to copy from Muffin's ISO as it hurt you to read.
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