Ikaruga Mafia (Game Over!)

[MafiaSSK]

Mastin's scum.

VOTE: TheNecro

[MafiaSSK]

Mastin's scum.

VOTE: TheNecro

Nah, but you very well may be.

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Mastin, what? You're getting a scumread from me early game? ...How?

[MafiaSSK]

I believe you're town tmct! They just don't know you!

Wanna prove it Nat? Think you could provide some solid MTGS meta?

[MafiaSSK]

Mastin's town. My vote switches to
VOTE: Jordan

[MafiaSSK]

VOTE: Xayzeck

I never said I had a meta basis for my read on TMCT.

Also, mastin's scum.

And it is with this post that my vote switches again to
VOTE: Nat

[MafiaSSK]

So how has the thenecro wagon actually started to gain steam? It still seems dumb to me.

[MafiaSSK]

I've been prodded! Yeah, Xayzeck has been pretty solidly scummy all game. I'll go there.

VOTE: Xayzeck

[MafiaSSK]

VOTE: Xayzeck

Or not.

VOTE: Aegor.

What of that series of posts speaks scum to you, Mastin? It seemed moreso that he hadn't read or something.

[MafiaSSK]

vote ssk...

I know that I get hated on for posting shit like this, but why? I know you changed the vote, but what troubled you about my posts?

[MafiaSSK]

Oh and Thor - what are you basing your townread of SSK on?

Talah, I know I can't answer for Thor, but I think I've got a good guess. The last game where I was scum and seriously trying was NY 169 and I think Thor just got to seriously know my scumplay there and I have definitely been nothing like that here.

[MafiaSSK]

Why are you doing that? Why are you moving your vote from useless to even more useless? What do you think it achieves? Do you think that any far corner of the universe, you will raise a wagon by bringing someone to L-11 with no fucking reasoning?

We have 4 days, Rach. It's not about pressure anymore. I'd love you to vote Xayzeck, yes, but you know what I'd love more? A lynch on day 1. And your vote hinders that.

See, this post bothers me. So insanely many questions. Four days left and he's this anxious. Come on, man, if you want a wagon to succeed you shouldn't be badgering town into joining the wagon. Make a good enough case and people will be able to see it and be convinced to join you.

[MafiaSSK]

Also, fuck my vote UNVOTE: . That's what I get for not reading. The only post that really bothers me in Xayzeck's ISO is this one:

also i finally have a decent scumread ty <3 <3 <3

UNVOTE:
VOTE: dry-fit

thoughts on mastin/anti?

UNVOTE: TMCT
VOTE: Necro

but really a reasonless vote isn't enough of a reason to vote someone in 42 pages. And going against TSO's 886, I dare say that I have a null to nulltown read on him. I think it will take more for me to honestly be voting him.

[MafiaSSK]

On the other hand, I am totally willing to swing to
VOTE: Aegor.

A few reasons for this:

1. Their completely and utterly dumb votes.

Their first serious vote was on Page 9:

Vote: Saki.

That naked vote on sharpest knife is the scummiest thing in the game so far. Naked votes come more often from scum in my experience and Saki picked a bad target.

I also have suspicion of Xayzeck and Jordan. Xay I just can't really see where he's coming from in his posts. Jordan is gut but somehow his posts just don't read genuine. No one looks particularly towny but I guess Sharpest knife and Necro seem towny due to interactions with other players.

Also kind of worried PV's questioning is kind of rolefishy.

Those are my observations after a half-assed quick readthrough.

This is just awful in every way. Inaccurate appeal to general meta to justify a baseless vote. Suspecting players seemingly at random, when said players are the only coherent ones in the whole game. Lack of commitment in general. Badbadbad.

VOTE: Dry-fit

Stretched as fuck reasoning if you ask me. And not only stretched, but completely baselesss. Why is the inaccurate appeal bad? How was the suspecting of players random? And then just the generalization of the lack of commitment. Oh yeah, right. Aegor committed to his RVS vote for a full 9 pages, that's surely better.

But then their next three votes (after repeated baseless tunneling on Dry-fit mind you) get even worse. Their Necro vote given in 357, reasoning given in 488 where there is just utter conviction without literally anything to back it up. Then he does a textbook OMGUS back to Dryfit in 962 and then just throws seemingly random or bandwagoning votes in 1009 and 1011.

2. ShinyH and Him

I dunno. This point is arguably the weaker one, but I think I see Aegor acting as more of a coach then as trying to hunt scum, so it's probably a connection tell of some variety, but I'm thinking it leans more towards the scum side.

This mainly only comes from one post at that, but I think it's an important one that's really been skipped over:

I am also completely aware of the fact that, Mastin's stance on Talah is strong enough so that, arguing against it is probably futile, leaving her alive long enough will pretty much be a huge distraction to mastin, and him flipping town would probably serve as a strong enough catalyst in making a hard-reset D2 which will probably make mastin that much more useful as town

I hope you are aware of how terrible this reasoning is. First, it assumes that mastin is town. Second, you are essentially advocating lynching a player who may be town so that another obsessive player may be useful in the future. Really?

This actually seems like it might be a legitimate reason to vote or at least have suspicions on someone. But no, it never gets brought up again nor does Shiny H ever appear in Aegor's posts when he talks about who he suspects. He also does this same sort of coaching thing in 962.

So if Aegor is scum, which from my gut + his crappy votes + his interactions with Shiny H, then I'm also pretty sure Shiny H will also be scum. But for now, I feel way more comfortable with Aegor as my vote than Xayzeck.

[MafiaSSK]

vote ssk...

I know that I get hated on for posting shit like this, but why? I know you changed the vote, but what troubled you about my posts?

Did I say anything about your posts, nope, not a thing. I cast a direction for a vote, picked a thread to pull on and here we are, reverberation.

But a vote means you think I'm scum and the only reason you could think that would be because of my posts unless reasons, so it's logical to assume that there was some post of mine that bothered you. But now I know that it was just a shitty vote. Unless you want to prove me different.

[MafiaSSK]

Xay, why is your alleged scumteam a team?

[MafiaSSK]

VOTE: Jordan

Go deadline lynch go!

[MafiaSSK]

Oh hey. Aegor's something again.

VOTE: Aegor

Yay, deadline random wagons!