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Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:51 pm

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VOTE: MattP


Noob =/= Scum

Trying to pretend otherwise for an easy mislynch, eh?
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Post Post #19 (isolation #1) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:01 am

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Is Flubber referring to himself being a troll or Csareo?
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Post Post #22 (isolation #2) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:07 am

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MattP wrote:
Ki-Gi wrote:Is Flubber referring to himself being a troll or Csareo?

I don't like this post of yours

I just want you to know that

I don't like this wagon and I don't think you're town bruh
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Post Post #25 (isolation #3) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:13 am

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To try and better understand the wagon.
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Post Post #27 (isolation #4) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:21 am

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Your vote was opportunistic because you tried to back it up with (poor) reasoning. His vote seemed random, blatantly without justification. It's scum motivation vs. WIFOM, I pick the former as more likely to be scum. My question could gain insight into the wagon to better understand his post (if it was to be answered), so I can therefore see if I'm missing something about it that makes it scummier.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #5) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:52 am

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I second that.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #6) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:09 am

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You should join my MattP wagon, AK.
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Post Post #40 (isolation #7) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:14 am

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mykonian wrote:
Ki-Gi wrote:and I don't think you're town bruh


vote kigi

I had already voted him at that point. Using that post to justify your vote there isn't convincing.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #8) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:20 am

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I don't think it's likely, no. Which is why I especially don't like Flubber's wagon.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #9) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:41 am

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Huh? I thought by second-vote-on-wagon vote you meant Flubber's vote on Csareo. I wasn't sure how serious the Flubber wagon was so if MattP was scum it would be easier to blend in in that case. It's the second page so I wouldn't call it a confident read but at the moment, I do think MattP is scum.
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Post Post #53 (isolation #10) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:05 am

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Anatole Kuragin wrote:
Anatole Kuragin wrote:Ki-Gi, do you think it's likely that scum would drop a second-vote-on-wagon vote without explanation like that?

Ki-Gi wrote:I don't think it's likely, no. Which is why I especially don't like Flubber's wagon.


You said you don't think it's likely that scum would drop the second vote on a wagon without explanation, which is what Matt did.

I just explained the distinction though. With Matt, being the second vote on the wagon against Flubber wouldn't be a towntell because as far as I know that was a completely random wagon. With Flubber's second vote on a wagon on the other hand, it's WIFOM, as I said before. I misspoke in saying that I would agree that scum would drop the second vote on a wagon without explanation in all cases. Some cases yes, but not all cases.

p-edit: So you're seriously trying to justify a vote off of me saying "bruh"?
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Post Post #58 (isolation #11) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:14 am

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mykonian wrote:very simply put, people don't talk that way. And if they do, they don't post that way. That wordchoice is concious.

Wow.
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Post Post #64 (isolation #12) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:42 am

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MattP wrote:I just don't see how you could extrapolate so much more meaning from my vote on csarea than from farsides vote on flubber (besides the "taking advantage of a noob" card which wasn't even true considering I didn't even push csarea when he responded to my vote) and use that to be so confident I must be scum. It seems ridiculous

But I'm not confident you're scum, and said as much. We're three pages in. I don't understand the wagon on Flubber so I can't extrapolate anything from that. Your vote on Csarea seemed opportunistic. Not pushing, which helps, but opportunistic all the same.
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Post Post #65 (isolation #13) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:44 am

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In other words, you're not a strong scum read, but you're the strongest scum read.
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Post Post #67 (isolation #14) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:51 am

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You remember your original vote for me had no comments from you right? We had to get those comments out of you. You responded to 53 just now to elaborate when you had a response before that after 53 was posted, so you're starting to realize how weak your argument is yet you're trying to make it look like you're still confident in it.

Which alignment does that? I don't think you're town bruh
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Post Post #74 (isolation #15) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:01 am

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@myk

So your vote was intentionally vague, and then more explained, and then more explained still. And this was your intention, to get reactions. I see. I'm inclined to believe you but damn that is some weak logic.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #16) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:20 am

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farside22 wrote:Oh and for a shit and giggle reference I did vote for messiah in Bel's game for no reason and he was scum.

What is the point of this. What. Why. Because it seems like an underhanded way to justify your random vote while still making it clear that you don't actually mean anything by it.
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Post Post #87 (isolation #17) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:23 am

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His question could have referred to two different people, it was a simple misunderstanding.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #18) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:33 am

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Anatole Kuragin wrote:
farside22 wrote:
Anatole Kuragin wrote:I saw his post about Matt earlier, and asked if he thought the way Matt (who he was and is voting) would be likely to vote in such a bold way (no other text, or explanation) as the second vote on a wagon if he was scum. I asked this because I think that reduces the chances of it being a scum vote. Ki-Gi even said himself he didn't think it would be likely when addressing the question in a more general manner.

That has nothing to do with what you're arguing.



You realize your question did not refer to Matt right?

He also stated it wasn't a big scum tell, also not sure why your up in arms over my vote with explanation while questioning ki for his vote with the rational of being a second vote without a reason.

What is the difference between the first vote for no reason push?


Your vote still has no explanation at all.

And yes, I was asking a question to Ki-Gi in reference to Matt originally. I think I would know better than you. Ki-gi seemed to understand the question fine when I asked it - you are the only one who did not.

That's not true, I thought you were referring to Flubber when you were referring to Matt, which made me answer yes as opposed to no.
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Post Post #100 (isolation #19) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:38 am

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I corrected myself later to say that I think in some cases (not all) that an unexplained second-vote-on-wagon is not a scum action. That's all.

I think farside's logic is terrible but I don't see how that makes her scum.
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Post Post #105 (isolation #20) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:44 am

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AK just make a wall post and not ten million small posts plz, that's a bad habit.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #21) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:48 am

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I can see that earlier on this page anyway. And it's not even a quote thing. 103 and 104 do not need to be two posts. And if you butcher quoting than just use @s. Anything but this.
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Post Post #110 (isolation #22) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:53 am

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In 91 and 92 you take the same quote and make two responses to it in two different posts. That's not okay. I do not need Mr. Schizoid Man filling up every page of this game until your inevitable death. I'm glad you see my point. Maybe try being offline more and then relying more on catch-up posts? Whatever, I'm guilty of it to an extent myself.
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Post Post #112 (isolation #23) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:54 am

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I see.
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Post Post #119 (isolation #24) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:16 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:Oh god 5 pages srs

Five pages is nothing, are you serious?
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Post Post #145 (isolation #25) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:09 am

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"I'm also not an illogical person at all." -no logical person ever
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Post Post #178 (isolation #26) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:13 pm

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Neither of you should make it to LyLo (assuming we make it that far) IMO
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Post Post #188 (isolation #27) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:11 pm

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Can we double-policy-lynch Flubbernugget and Csareo? Pleeeeeeeeease?
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Post Post #191 (isolation #28) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:19 pm

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You answered the first question with the second question (and all your other posts).
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Post Post #193 (isolation #29) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:32 pm

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I didn't say policy lynch, I said DOUBLE policy lynch. And you thought I was serious. And you thought that was my first post of the game, even though I posted earlier on this page.

Town does not need scumhunting this bad clogging up the game.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #30) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:49 pm

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Csareo is shown as having three votes but you have two listed.
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Post Post #201 (isolation #31) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:15 pm

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I admire that you still have confidence in your scum read of me despite that you're also aware of how ridiculous it looks to everyone else.
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Post Post #268 (isolation #32) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:15 am

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mykonian wrote:you have 8 posts.

VOTE: mykonian


So I said "bruh".

And reckoner has 8 posts.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #33) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:53 pm

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farside22 wrote:My vote on ki is simple. He isn't scum hunting. His post are stabs at people on things they say and keeps himself out of conversations completely.
Aka: playing the sideline scum game.

Your "conversations" with AK is nothing but running in circles and never concluding anything decent, so really I care enough about the town
to avoid
getting involved with them. My stabs at people actually reveal shit that help me with my reads. You just confuse people with questions that couldn't possibly reveal alignment and then continue to bother them when they call you out for it. I would OMGUS you but I just think you're weak town. If your scum and just want me to think that, then good job.
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