Mini 1643: World of Mafiacraft (End)

[ika]

1. Are the roles continuous or one-shot? For example, can vigilante make a kill each night (or day?) Can jailer or cop or doctor use their ability each night? 2. Any other mechanics involved once a person rolls the role with the votes that may be important?

1) I believe his intended purpose is to have infinite shot.

2) Any thing that you need to be aware of is here

Lead Developer: If there were a 3P of some kind, would we get 2 tokens or 4 tokens for their lynch?

Depends

~Head Tester

[ika]

what does it depend on?

It depends on ~stuff~

I have already told you all you need to know is located here

[ika]

elusive is being replaced as per the request.

Also unless if a player is breaking a rule, they will not be replaced.

[ika]

We can confirm that mathblade is replacing elusive

ika
-Head of R&D

[ika]

Patch 1.1.5 Vote Count

kiwieagle (1):

Ozgin

Nero Cain (2):

ABR, House

Titus (1):

MathBlade

acryon (0):

House (2):

Nero Cain, kiwieagle

TroubledTownie (0)

Mathblade (4)

GGG, Titus, TroubledTownie, Xombie

Not Voting (3):

TheFuzzylogic99, eyestott, acryon
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Tier 1 (8):

House, Nero Cain, TroubledTownie, Ozgin, eyestott, TheFuzzylogic99, GGG, acryon

Tier 3 (3):

ABR, kiwieagle, Titus

Deadline: Day 1 ends in (expired on 2015-02-10 11:40:00).

I am only doing a VC.

Also eyesott has requested replacement. I will check with someone and then post a request. feel free to tell your friends

[ika]

Please hold while an issue gets resoved

[ika]

Killer jester is in the hospital so im taking over for a bit

Nerocain was killed -

Ungeared Raider - Human Rogue

[ika]

9 alive, 5 to lynch

I will add in deadline later, im tired atm and have a lot on my mind

[ika]

Mod: Can scum get the items town elects?

When gear has been bought it will go to the Ungeared Raider with the highest-roll on a d100 loot system.

[ika]

orginz: kiwi, mathblade
shos: troubled town, titus, orginz
TT: shos

T2: titus, kiwi, orgins
T3: mathblade

im in a rush so i can fix later

[ika]

fuzzy: kiwi, AP
orginz: mathblade
shos: troubled town, titus, orginz
TT: shos

T2: titus, kiwi, orgins, AP
T3: mathblade

[ika]

deadline is 2 week, so thats on the 6th of march

[ika]

vc after sleep

[ika]

masin repalces Pirate mollie

[ika]

fuzzy: , AP
orginz: shos, kiwi
shos: troubled town, titus, orginz, mathblade
mathblade: orginz
titus: fuzzy, shos, mathblade

T2: titus, kiwi, orgins, AP, TT
T3: mathblade

[ika]

Due to me being overbooked on games and modding stuff and no sign of KJ from the hospital part im asking equinox to help out in VC

[ika]

I guess I see what you're saying in that he was asking her not to disrespect him in game but the rules seem to be arbitrarily applied across the board. What constitutes breaking the rules or not? Would it have been okay if he PMed the Mod first to ask? I've done that and let Mods know what I plan to say (well usually its an invite or something positive and not game related).

On the site forum the example is you can say "so and so is playing in three other games."

However, I never go to Mods for help unless I've established some trust relationship with them by them showing they won't abuse their power. When approaching players Mods need to be really calm. Mods aren't in the game, they're outside of it as this kind of neutral or helpful entity and when you go into "Modkill if you do this" or "Threats" then you're not being a good Mod.

I can see ABR getting a warning but a ban or modkill? That's just showing disparity. What about the fact that a player was rude to him, that the Mod agreed on, was that a Modkill worthy action? The site rules also state something about players not intending to insult others.

I was in a newbie game where one player stated she was fine with cursing\being cursed at while another said she couldn't deal with it. The rules seem flexible and kind of open to interpretation to a degree that Mods should err on the side of caution or at least be consistent and not actively antagonize players.

elusive your also missing the fact that this isnt really the first time it happened or such....

pirate mollie gives nicknames to players who she enjoys playing with, she never meant for it to be a disrespect thing and that the fact ABR perceived it as such is really his own doings. i have talked with her and that it has happened before and with another player who didn't like having a nickname, that player proceeded to pm the mod and in turn pmed her to not do it. she never brought it up again.

she belive that she got compromised cus if she was town in this game it would of made her town!read ABR so she replaced out as if she was playing as town.

if you ask PM who she has nicknames to you will find she has a lot of people nicknamed (thor is know as thorella) so from what i know and understand mollie give nicknames as a respect thing if anything.

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in regard to KJ "threatenign modkill PM" if you have a problem with how a mod handles something you need to:
PM the backup mod (if applicable)
or
PM the listmod(s)

honestly i would of rather have you PM me about KJ message first instead of just "replacing out" so i could of given you the bigger issue on it.

All mods have a diffrent standard of how they deal with things and that you have to deal with it as it goes. There are some things that have a gray area and that is open to mod interpretations. you just have to sometimes accept the fact that some mods have to make what looks like a biased decision for reasons unknown. if you disagree with it thats you.

pedit: titus basicly sums up the modkill, the modkill was for OGC of players

[ika]

1) I avoid going to Mods in general, ika. I don't respect authority unless it's earned and that takes time to develop. It might be a personal issue.

2) That's the thing though, a player may think what they're saying is not offensive but a player can find it to be offensive. Such as pet names. What then? Who does the Mod protect - the player who is offended or the player who is playing a game that is not like other games? I mean most competitive games can have some trash talking but mafia is almost engineered towards it.

I guess its very different from Mod to Mod and that's how you figure out who's games to in for and who to avoid. There's plenty of both, games and players.

1) and im going to tell you now that you will have to set aside your personal issue sometimes, i fully understand that kind of setting but in the end, you have to accept that even if you dont agree with the decision or what they are doing. you have o do one of the following:

A) accept it and move on
B) talk to the mod itself and try to come to an understanding (or talk to backup to get a second opinion)
C) take it to higher authority (listmods, but really in extreme cases)
D) replace out (what you did but dont recomend)

2) thats where the mod is more or less infallible. mods sshould take an objective viewpoint and in the end the decision they made will end up favoring one side or the other. its catch 22 really where (using the PM/ABR case) if KJ sided with PM and said she did nothing wrong (and i dont think she did IMO) it looks like its favoring her. however if KJ took action against PM it shows favoritism to ABR. in the end the corse of action is going to look biased one way or another

When a mod sees both sides of an argument they can make a better call. the modkill was as titus already said, for OGC message.