Team Mafia: Young and Beautiful

[Espeonage]

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[Espeonage]

Ok so I wan to talk about the game placement.

I also think that it is a good idea to pay all tokens to get our choice of games over alignment, there is going to be alignment wifom, and the less we have on us the easier it is to construe we are town. Also, I really want to get the games we are going to be good at.

I personally would really like to be the player that plays the large. They are the games I am best at.

What are your preferences?

[Espeonage]

We can use pares to try and get Psyche scum maybe?

So at the moment.

Espe - Large Theme
wgeurts - 9p Open
Psyche - ?
T-bone - ?

[Espeonage]

As I read it, we may talk in here knowing each other's alignments, however we may not discuss the games with other players and may not discuss the other games in the game threads.

Is this correct zor?

[Espeonage]

no

[Espeonage]

T-bone, what is your preference for game?

[Espeonage]

OK guys we have to make game choices.

I am going to put the Open as first preference, do either of you two (Psyche or T-Bone) have a preference for any of the non large theme games? Basically, tell me if, gun to head, you had to choose a game you wanted to be in which you would pick. And we won't use many tokens.

That way we can put tokens in to getting T-Bone town and Psyche scum. If we don't get our top three picks we get one token for each game that wasn't in out top three. So I'm thinking we spend two on choosing games and we will have a good chance of getting the open and preferred alignments.

[Espeonage]

If you guys don't give me preferences I will put in;

1. Open
2. Mini Theme
3. Nightless
4. Mini Normal
5. White Flag

Just because that is order I feel comfortable in giving advice after wgeurts choice of Twin Trap.

[Espeonage]

We have to pick what games we want to play in.

[Espeonage]

Ok that places it now at:

1. Open
2. Mini Theme
3. White Flag
4. Nightless
5. Mini Normal

Psyche, do you have any input? Or can I go with this?

[Espeonage]

Cool cool.

[Espeonage]

1. Open
2. Mini Theme
3. Nightless
4. White Flag
5. Mini Normal

I think this is the best way to sort this. Thoughts?

[Espeonage]

Submitted

[Espeonage]

We have a google doc survey that needs to be done by tomorrow.

[Espeonage]

Hey,

So we got White Flag, Mini Theme, and Vanilla Nightless.

So I believe this will mean that we are looking at doing;
Espe - Large Theme
wgeurts - White Flag
T-Bone - Mini Theme
Psyche - Vanilla Nightless

As we spent two tokens and we get 1 back we will have four tokens to spend on getting alignments.

As I have it T-bone would rather Town.
Psyche would rather Scum.
I am indifferent.
wgeurts is indifferent.

Please let me know if anyone would like something different. No one else asked for Large Theme so I'm assuming that everyone is cool with me doing it. But I am happy to do Mini Theme or Vanilla nightless if someone thinks they would be better in the Large Theme. I would prefer the large theme though.

[Espeonage]

We didn't get our first pref which is annoying.

[Espeonage]

This is the fucking coolest large theme game ever.

HYPER KEEN.

Btw, the game will ebb and flow, as there is a four phase rotation. Minor Day / Minor Night / Major Day / Major Night

I'm thinking the following for tokens.

1-2 Token T-Bone town
2 Token Psyche scum
0-1 Token Espe town
0 Token wgeurts

Basically it's up to T-bone. I am happy to take the 80% base chance of town.

And psyche gets the extra token for scum being harder to get anyway.

[Espeonage]

Ok then, wgeurts, would you be ok doing vanilla nightless?

[Espeonage]

Ok well work me out.

[Espeonage]

I have down:

wgeurts on Vanilla Nightless (No tokens)
Psyche on White Flag (2 Tokens Scum)
T-Bone on Mini Theme (1 Token Town)
Espe on Large Theme (1 Token Town)

[Espeonage]

Yeah I submitted.

[Espeonage]

Dude, that mini theme is a brutal playerlist.

[Espeonage]

ABR is ignorable. If you pretend that ABR is shit at the game it gets you cool points.

truth be told ABR hasn't been in form for like three years.

Remind MS that you are on my time and he'll work with me via you if you want.

And I think I know the trick to reading Nacho and I will tell you if he drops anything. It's a tonal thing.

[Espeonage]

I don't know tbh.

T-Bone? Zor?

[Espeonage]

Most people in my game seem to have the same abilities as per the OP. I have nothing on top of that atm.

[Espeonage]

Sounds like a good plan.

Debreifs in night phases will probably be a good idea.

[Espeonage]

Encourage town to bring someone up to L-1, then hammer.

That's a fun gambit.

[Espeonage]

Are you in white flag?

If you are i'd actually do it.

[Espeonage]

There is also indications that I pref scum.

I honestly think that we say we spent 1 on Tbone town, 1 on wgeurts town and 1 on me town. None of psyche.

Thoughts?

[Espeonage]

Actually just say 2 on T-bone, 1 on me, 1 on wgeurts.

That way we can tell the exact truth on what we did for our games with tokens.

Justification was that we felt it would be better for us all to be town so we can scumhunt cross games and not have to tutor and help the scum people on the team but psyche was most inclined to be scum and T-Bone didn't want scum.

I think that is good for all of us in our games.

[Espeonage]

Have I ever told anyone how much I hate Titus.

[Espeonage]

Okay, I'd like to know what espeonage and mastin's teams think of marquis. (And anyone else who can read him, but those are the two teams with the most experience with him I think.)

hito - boon has the same deadline as bane, right?

I can ask.

[Espeonage]

I think he is town gun to head.

[Espeonage]

I have next week off so I'll be able to help people then.

[Espeonage]

I didn't realise my game had started until I got a prod. So you're already doing better than me.

[Espeonage]

Tell him I'm barely reading my game so it isn't happening until at least next week.

[Espeonage]

Well after not knowing that my game had started, I am doing ok. Kinda playing my way in to it, but wish I had more time.

I sent in a detect action with a random sign that wasn't my own (Marginally higher probability of being correct assuming even distribution) because either I get a negative result, looks dumb town for taking the risk and then I'm town and can start doing what I do best in using my gut all over the place. Or I get a positive result which is happy times and I know someone's sign and can then work out both more about how the game works and potentially use it as a source of positive results to buff myself throughout the game. If it fails I can switch sign and I'm not a PR so it doesn't matter.

[Espeonage]

I'll have a look. They are all players I have experience with. Ceph not so much but I can actually read reck.

[Espeonage]

What's the mechanics going in your game? Like what is the table?

[Espeonage]

So I just realised that I am playing to my IC meta.

[Espeonage]

him,

I can't read nacho. Have a look back at capcom. Nacho was scum there and fairly catchable even though he survived.

[Espeonage]

Nacho is too good at modulating his play.

The best way to read him is to get him emotional.

Tell him I said his mother was a hamster.

[Espeonage]

Sorry I meant to include, he is only readable via tonal tells.

[Espeonage]

Well this is going to be potentially difficult. A tonal tell is a tell based on their tone and the way they talk in relation to different things. Nacho has a small tendency to be disingenuous sometimes as scum.

[Espeonage]

Well I just narrowly escaped being the day 1 lynch.

[Espeonage]

Hoopla always walks a fine line between terrible and amazing.

I can read Nacho and mollie. I will have a look if I get time.

[Espeonage]

wisdom is ok. I am happy with wisdom if only because he can actually read threads fairly quickly. We need more talking in here and I'm probably the worst culprit of not talking.

[Espeonage]

I sent Wisdom a PM. I didn't specifically ask, but I did say we are looking for a replacement and I'd like to know if he is being picked up by anyne else first.

[Espeonage]

wisdom declined due to having since gotten time constraints.

[Espeonage]

Holy shit.

I might not be the first day 1 lynch after all.

[Espeonage]

We came up with a fake plan on what we did with tokens in here. So probs best to check what Psyche said if anything in thread and then iso me in this thread to get what we agreed on to claim.

[Espeonage]

I've actually talked about how I haven't really been chatting with any of you about my game.

[Espeonage]

You already have a better handle than I do.

[Espeonage]

Any of you able to read CBD?

[Espeonage]

Well that would have been an interesting end to day 1 if I hadn't been asleep.

Good news is that I am alive, have blessing from the conf-town to not lynch me tomorrow and not much else.

[Espeonage]

What's happening at your games, Esp and T-Bone?

See above. It's night time and I'm vt.

[Espeonage]

I could probs use a second set of eyes on my game. I want to know if I can trust cheet because he is someone that seems very open to working with me tomorrow.

[Espeonage]

Three signs. Like an identifier. For a PR to go through you need to match the sign as well as target the player.

Everyone pretty much has the ability to either A. Test a person's sign. or B. Track someone but only happens if you aren't targetted and if they tested someone's sign.

[Espeonage]

Oh, there is a hurt heal phase, then the phase where the universal powers happen. Followed by double lynch day and then normal night phase.

[Espeonage]

I may be really really good at scum theater, but I have no idea how to tutor people in it. It generally goes down as a happy accident.

What might be an idea is to push a town out of nowhere. If you're going down, taking a town with you via bluffing a bus might actually buy your team an extra day which is awesome, especially if there is an unconfirmed universal town read.

[Espeonage]

I am a VT. But I also have blessing from the conf-town to not let me be lynched today.

[Espeonage]

Sorry guys, am around.

[Espeonage]

I'm sorry guys.

[Espeonage]

Getting there. I don't seem to be on the block like I was yesterday.

[Espeonage]

I can say fairly certainly that AD is town.

[Espeonage]

He just legit doesn't like me.

[Espeonage]

Mastin has been pinging me most of the game. Something seems off but I haven't been able to place it. He hasn't been in a solve the game mood which makes me wary.

I think Gamma is town.

I don't want to lynch Cheet yet. He's gonna be really useful as like a third flip for finding the fourth I feel.

[Espeonage]

btw It's kinda the dead of the night where I am. If you want to brains trust, this is the wrong timeslot for me to be productive.

[Espeonage]

Yeah figured it was better to put something on the table int he thread than sit waiting for us to work something out.

[Espeonage]

Also goddamn mastin is scum and needs to be lynched.

This.

[Espeonage]

A play like shooting your scum mate is the kind of thing that wins games.

[Espeonage]

Entertaining the idea of revealing Cheet's sign on opening of the thread.

It could go a few different ways, a couple of which might even guilty him without an investigative role.

[Espeonage]

Thinking I might Trace vezok.