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Post Post #26 (isolation #0) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:14 am

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Post Post #240 (isolation #1) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:26 am

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As soon as you explain how thats not just a giant waste of time, sure.
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Post Post #251 (isolation #2) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:59 am

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Elyse wrote:
TheWayItEnds wrote:As soon as you explain how thats not just a giant waste of time, sure.

Who dis


...What?
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Post Post #588 (isolation #3) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:01 pm

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oh good you might actually be town.
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Post Post #898 (isolation #4) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:54 am

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i mean realistically if you ignore eagle and titus's posts...

and then like the rest of the game too.

and just play on whatever page you happen to be reading it becomes very easy to stay caught up.
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Post Post #900 (isolation #5) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:03 pm

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pretty obviously titus
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Post Post #903 (isolation #6) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:06 pm

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we all want things titus.
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Post Post #906 (isolation #7) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:14 pm

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like for instance, i want you and eagle to stop posting pages of nothing.

and for garmr and eagle to stop arguing over fucking vocabulary.

and for anenenenenenen to stop baiting people into talking about clotildedededed

and for varsoon to stop baiting people with quotes for no reason.

and for me to stop having to roll my eyes at this game every time i open it.
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Post Post #908 (isolation #8) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:22 pm

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Post Post #988 (isolation #9) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:59 am

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where was that "too many scumreads" complaint when titus put out a list with 8 scum reads on page like 15?

also that orange is basically unreadable.
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Post Post #990 (isolation #10) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:12 am

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i suppose that makes more sense, but i'd kinda disagree with you about him making a big deal about it given that elyse and alch both asked him for content/reads.
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Post Post #991 (isolation #11) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:13 am

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also its not the only thing hes done.

he brought up the terrible idea of flavor claiming.

which id still like him to rationalize
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Post Post #1000 (isolation #12) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:29 pm

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I assume im like 12/12 obvtown.
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Post Post #1467 (isolation #13) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:37 pm

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Extrapolated Eagle wrote:How about this: Titus, spifflop, shiro, Tso and then maybe inte/twie for a scum team? I think the chemistry there works. Not much solid content, two jump on Klingon with hiplop being the "head of reason" appealing to town while actions say otherwise
Three scum on the wagon all at once is too bold but no one expects two and two isn't too risky. Also no one there outright defends another one of them. Titus even distanced twie a bit and that ate from her regarding spifflop was icky. Tso jumps all over the place, perhaps on purpose but he's an interesting fellow. Interesting doesn't have too much interest in the thread since he's scum, he just asks for a summary so scum can figure out how they view the game. Um townbloc from Titus is a home free card if she gets it going as scum and it makes strong arms much easier.

This is just speculating, again, but what are people thinking here?


Titus maybe
spiff prob not
tsos pretty town
having a read on inte is bold

i appreciate that you think that of the three people ive interacted with im scum with 2 of them.
the level of incompetence that assumes on my part is pretty great.
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Post Post #1634 (isolation #14) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:29 am

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Passionate Storm wrote:Passionate storm, Elyse, pip, spiffeh lop, Varsoon, Garmr

Applying TSO AJ , Spider Gwen

Gun to head town TWIE but his lack of content and votes makes me not care if he dies

Need to get invested: Shiro Mohis interest errant, Shiro voting scum is a good sign

Gun to head scum PV


where does varsoon hard townblock town come from?
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Post Post #1636 (isolation #15) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:31 am

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jaqen what do you think the chances of us lynching anyone off that list today are?
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Post Post #1646 (isolation #16) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:01 am

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Passionate Storm wrote:
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Passionate Storm wrote:Passionate storm, Elyse, pip, spiffeh lop, Varsoon, Garmr

Applying TSO AJ , Spider Gwen

Gun to head town TWIE but his lack of content and votes makes me not care if he dies

Need to get invested: Shiro Mohis interest errant, Shiro voting scum is a good sign

Gun to head scum PV


where does varsoon hard townblock town come from?


The fact he isn't mind fucking me.

Vote Klingon?


yeah but he isnt doing a ton of things.

what do you think the point of him faking a restriction is?
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Post Post #1715 (isolation #17) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:13 am

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T S O wrote:If I was calling a scumteam right now, it'd probably be something like Klingon/EE/Alch/lurker that I haven't decided yet/lurker #2. I don't find many active players to be scummy right now.

Lurker pool is something like {PV, MOHIS, IAI, inte, TWIE}.


wow im hurt.


Dapper Stranger wrote:I just went back to look as I know YCBA3 was not. None of the previous YCBA games had multiball. YCBA2 had a serial killer.



YCBAII had a team of serial killers actually.
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Post Post #1726 (isolation #18) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:02 am

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T S O wrote:
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T S O wrote:If I was calling a scumteam right now, it'd probably be something like Klingon/EE/Alch/lurker that I haven't decided yet/lurker #2. I don't find many active players to be scummy right now.

Lurker pool is something like {PV, MOHIS, IAI, inte, TWIE}.


wow im hurt.


You know that I secretly adore your roguish charm.


I just like to hear you say it.
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Post Post #1895 (isolation #19) » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:30 am

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actually she said feel free to target her with it.

but that you would be wasting it.
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Post Post #1913 (isolation #20) » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:42 am

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Spifflop wrote:Ok I am all caught up and hiplop was right that I didn't miss much.

The most I gleaned from the catch up was that Shiro is obvtown, and Eagle is townier.
Also Anen's catch up was really underwhelming and I expect a lot more from him.

A lot of my confident town reads have stayed the same which makes me excited that we can probably PoE the game out.

Town: TSO, itlepip, Errant Parabola, Elyse, Passionate Storm, Garmr, Shiro, Extrapolated Eagle, Aunt Jemima, Varsoon
Scum: Klingon, grapes, Alchemist, random

Vig should target these if not the scum reads: inte, PeregrineV, TheWayItEnds, My Other Head Is Scum, I Am Innocent

~Spiffy


seriously how the fuck do you people have town reads on varsoon.
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Post Post #1915 (isolation #21) » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:44 am

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yeah i agree.

fucking lurkers.
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Post Post #1916 (isolation #22) » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:46 am

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spiffy you accidentally put me in your lurker pool.
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Post Post #1917 (isolation #23) » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:47 am

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like really how could anyone who triple posts be called a lurker.

it just doesnt make sense.
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Post Post #1920 (isolation #24) » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:49 am

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pv town has usually made a post that makes him obvtown in my eyes by this point and i dont like that he hasnt done so yet.

hes really not usually that hard to read.
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Post Post #1921 (isolation #25) » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:50 am

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yeah but then id show up on the vote counts.
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Post Post #1928 (isolation #26) » Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:04 am

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Passionate Storm wrote:I hereby grant you an exception from any VCA argument against you for any of today's vote counts if you end the day.

You should not worry about having your name in vote counts now.


but it so much more fun for me to watch you try to frame my intentional non voting as something more than intentional non voting.
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Post Post #1932 (isolation #27) » Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:06 pm

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Passionate Storm wrote:
TheWayItEnds wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:I hereby grant you an exception from any VCA argument against you for any of today's vote counts if you end the day.

You should not worry about having your name in vote counts now.


but it so much more fun for me to watch you try to frame my intentional non voting as something more than intentional non voting.


Seriously, why do you do this?


Because it feels like a pretty standard response to here's a bunch of vote counts everyone listen to me.
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Post Post #1975 (isolation #28) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:12 pm

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Spider Gwen wrote:@Anen: Was something supposed to happen?


your character name was supposed to change.

ask jason to reconfirm your char name?
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Post Post #1976 (isolation #29) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:14 pm

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although anen should also verify that his shot was used/not used as well.
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Post Post #1978 (isolation #30) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:46 pm

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...

thats maybe the worst post in the game.
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Post Post #1999 (isolation #31) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:02 pm

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because that kill makes no sense as a vig kill is a good place to start i think.
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i mean certainly was the old worst post in the game but i dunno about that scumteam
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Post Post #2008 (isolation #33) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:29 pm

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T S O wrote:Grapes is either scum, or playing the worst towngame ever.


im taking this as a compliment.
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Post Post #2011 (isolation #34) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:34 pm

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is too convenient a valid reason?
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Post Post #2019 (isolation #35) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:44 pm

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Extrapolated Eagle wrote:

Fine. Let's get the game over with.




.... wut
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Post Post #2156 (isolation #36) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:18 pm

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i mean.

we pretty clearly arent lynching titus today.
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Post Post #2160 (isolation #37) » Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:22 pm

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i just deleted everything in this post in response to that pedit
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Post Post #2265 (isolation #38) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:34 am

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hey what if both of you stopped posting though.
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Post Post #2275 (isolation #39) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:42 am

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you're reaching.
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Post Post #2278 (isolation #40) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:43 am

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literally not helping.
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Post Post #2283 (isolation #41) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:00 am

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hes referring to her usage of the word either.

which is still not a good case.
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Post Post #2289 (isolation #42) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:18 am

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yeah the problem is that while you could make a case that she doesnt know you're scum.

theres a whole nother jump to they must be scum for it.
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Post Post #2292 (isolation #43) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:40 am

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garmr literally no one is talking about lynching shiro.
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Post Post #2309 (isolation #44) » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:37 pm

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i hate you.
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Post Post #2404 (isolation #45) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:50 am

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Aneninen wrote:
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TheWayItEnds wrote:i hate you.

You've never liked me. What's the change then?


The change is that for a second i thought your ability was a real thing.

Aneninen wrote:(5)
My Other Head Is Scum wrote:So hey guys. I guess Kling was scum and not mislynch bait.
Who would have thunk it.
How are you all doing?
-Fire

I strongly dislike this. They're "over-aware" of the fact they was away from the Klingonette-wagon. (I mean, I was away too. I misread her. Then what? Need I care how much towncredit I earn or lose?)
That "How are you all doing?" is a kind of "I'm here so as to do nothing and willing to fly on under the radar".
Their vote in their next post is the cherry on the ginger pie.


I strongly disagree. Thats a town post.

MOHIS is hard town for me.
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Post Post #2409 (isolation #46) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:54 am

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TSO im kinda disappointed.

Im pretty town today.
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Post Post #2413 (isolation #47) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:55 am

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My Other Head Is Scum wrote:
TheWayItEnds wrote:MOHIS is hard town for me.

How am I town for you?

Like I should be Null at best for everyone. I haven't made actual content post or post many thoughts this game.

Where are you getting this?

My Other Head Is Scum wrote:Jeez, TheWayItEnds that just feels odd.

I don't even think I should be viewed as town at this moment, and I saw my role pm.

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these are both town posts too.
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Post Post #2443 (isolation #48) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:25 am

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T S O wrote:
TheWayItEnds wrote:TSO im kinda disappointed.

Im pretty town today.


I know, I know, but let's be honest; no real content. You haven't done anything that you're remotely incapable of doing as scum.


Awww.

You're right, I am the best.

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Shiro wrote:Titus really can you please explai nto me at least why would anyone in their right mind go ahead and kill spiflop after what happened yesterday ?

There are point floating around that scum feel disoriented because their best player Dapper is about to get lynched yet nobody bashes an eyelash at how their kill choice was the worst thing that coul dhappen for dapper.

At the very least point to me how he scum claimed cause I don't see it


I agree, it's an odd kill, but I wouldn't fuss too much over it. The kills in general were odd n1. The important thing to remember is that Spifflop would have been pushing the same things we're pushing today.


How is this a shared sentiment. Spifflop is the obvious kill because he was town as fuck. How does killing the most town person in the game reflect more onto someone than another. Thats an equal opportunity kill.
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Post Post #2450 (isolation #49) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:56 am

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T S O wrote:So, TWIE, any chance of an opinion on DS/reads in general? Because a lurker purge is imminent, and I'm sure you'd like to escape it.


by who?

the scumteam?

the SK?

this feels very much like the emptiest threat ever leveled at me.
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Post Post #2504 (isolation #50) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:36 pm

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I was sorta expecting dapper to at least try claiming.
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Post Post #2539 (isolation #51) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:28 pm

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Vote: dapper
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Post Post #2542 (isolation #52) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:30 pm

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Post Post #2543 (isolation #53) » Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:31 pm

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Dapper Stranger wrote:In respect to why I wanted to know exactly which of Gwen or Titus is the supposed Friendly Neighbor:

I think Gwen and PS could actually both be scum based on neither of them wanting to spill the beans on who is supposedly the Friendly Neighbor. It gives plausible deniability to either should the other be lynched or otherwise killed off because they can then just claim FN. That's the kind of overly complicated strategy Titus will employ as scum. Her number one motivation as scum is to be town read and to throw a town blanket over her team. She's relentless in pursuing this and will try like hell to get rid of any and all who may question it or flat out call it bullshit.

Now, if this is going down, someone lynch us. Either that or wait til after Christmas because Fresh is busy with family stuff and he's not going to be around til then if you're waiting fir him.


this post should have contained a claim if i was supposed to care about it.

it did not.
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Post Post #2632 (isolation #54) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:28 pm

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I'm pretty upset about that grapes kill. I was hard town on grapes.

Tso what are you even talking about why was sg killed over you she's a hider.
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Post Post #2655 (isolation #55) » Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:29 pm

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Aunt Jemina wrote:
T S O wrote:If we're controlling a night shot - grapes was a great shot. He wasn't scum, but he was definitely going to be lynched soon. Cutting down on lurkers is a great plan - shooting in {inte, IAI, TWIE} is the best shot you can take.
I feel inty/Inny has at least one sour player in it, perhaps two.

I do not think Endy is mafia, but he is possible for being a serial killer.


im a little hurt tbh.

how obviously town do i have to be?
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Post Post #2703 (isolation #56) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:21 pm

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Yeah no. Hider die if they hide behind scum. You're scum.
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Post Post #2706 (isolation #57) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:31 pm

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No. It doesnt. I can think of a much likelier scenario.
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Post Post #2710 (isolation #58) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:50 pm

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Actually the point is so that people don't bother reading anything you're spewing.

Also it's sort of incredible how little I need to be sorted.
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Post Post #2719 (isolation #59) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:43 pm

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Alchemist21 wrote:I have to go eat now.

@TOWN; TAKE NOTE OF TWIE'S ATTITUDE TOWARDS ME IN TWILIGHT AFTER MY FLIP.



YES. TOWN PLEASE DO THIS.
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Post Post #2720 (isolation #60) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:44 pm

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MOHIS is still hard town btw.
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Post Post #2744 (isolation #61) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:50 pm

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no i think hes faking.
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Post Post #2745 (isolation #62) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:51 pm

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I actually dont even think he knows that SG was a hider.
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Post Post #2746 (isolation #63) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:51 pm

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or how hiders work.
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Post Post #2752 (isolation #64) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:19 pm

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swing and a bunch of misses.
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Post Post #2753 (isolation #65) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:20 pm

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Aneninen wrote:
TheWayItEnds wrote:no i think hes faking.

If you've meant Alchemist, let him fake! I'll tell you Tomorrow, why.
If you've meant me, sort it out by yourself!
Hint: I've never lied as townie and I have an excellent reputation for telling the truth all the time in this particular game.


i meant neither of those people.
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Post Post #2755 (isolation #66) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:24 pm

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Aneninen wrote:
sort it out by yourself!
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Post Post #2815 (isolation #67) » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:28 pm

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Extrapolated Eagle wrote:VOTE: errantparabola


no

T S O wrote:VOTE: I Am Innocent


this is probably fine

Errantparabola wrote:
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- I strongly disagree with the MOHIS read. Note how TWIE mentiones the grapes kill with a town read that he never projected in thread. This to me reads like inconsistent play or trying to grab credit with a read that somehow materialized postmortem. The one thing that makes me less confident in this being scum is the tone of TWIE's posts.

VOTE: MOHIS


You're probably not going to like my hard town read on you either, but I have one.

Your vote sucks though, move it.
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Post Post #2841 (isolation #68) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:18 pm

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T S O wrote:I have also decided to, and this could potentially be the ruination of me, exclude TWIE from being scum. I do not think TWIE has been town, I do not think TWIE has played well, I do not encourage TWIE's playstyle. TWIE could easily be the SK.

If TWIE is scum, it's not so much that he's played well, because he hasn't. It's more that he's got lucky because there are so many awful players lurking alongside him that he can't help but look good in comparison.


Rude.
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Post Post #2842 (isolation #69) » Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:18 pm

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T S O wrote:Extrapolated Eagle - I am in three minds on whether to lynch inte, IAI or MOHIS today. If the person I select flips town, then I will have no choice but to let the others lurk to LyLo, since there will be no more spare lynches available to town.

With that in mind - who do you think is the best lynch out of the three today?


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Post Post #2887 (isolation #70) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:02 am

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Uh.

Thats not at all what Jason just said.
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Post Post #2888 (isolation #71) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:02 am

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We know that Gwen was roleblocked and killed is what we know.
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Post Post #2890 (isolation #72) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:05 am

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...why not?
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Post Post #2891 (isolation #73) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:06 am

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She was either roleblocked or chose not to hide.

Do you think the latter is what happened?
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Post Post #2895 (isolation #74) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:13 am

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gwen did not die from hiding behind scum.
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Post Post #2896 (isolation #75) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:14 am

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Jason

If a hider hid behind a person who was targeted for the night kill and the person she hid behind was doc protected, what would happen to the hider?
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Post Post #2898 (isolation #76) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:23 am

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no, i thought she was RBed and killed.
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Post Post #2900 (isolation #77) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:26 am

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alch only makes sense as a kill target if someone read those crumbs as a hider though.

Which, I guess is not that far fetched given that thats what I assumed she was crumbing.

But then alch would also have to have been the doc target and that seems loose.
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Post Post #2901 (isolation #78) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:26 am

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i did until we lynched alch and that stopped being a possibility.
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Post Post #2903 (isolation #79) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:28 am

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Spider Gwen wrote:@Stormy: A reread of Alch wouldn't hurt. I know I haven't gotten much from his play. You might be able to see things I can't.


this post says, and i quote

"I will be hiding behind alchemist tonight"
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Post Post #2906 (isolation #80) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:31 am

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we already lynched alchemist is the problem and he flipped town.
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Post Post #2907 (isolation #81) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:32 am

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and the mod has now confirmed that SG did not die from hiding behind scum.

she died as the result of a targeted kill.
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Post Post #2911 (isolation #82) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:40 am

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Like the other option is that she forgot to send an action in over Christmas but that feels unlikely too.
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Post Post #2917 (isolation #83) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:45 am

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jasonT1981 wrote:

Spider Gwen was Angel, Town Hider killed Night 2



jasonT1981 wrote:
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2. Hypothetically, if a Hider hid behind a player who was scum, what would the Hider's kill flavour be?

3. Hypothetically, if a Hider hid behind a town player who was killed, would the Hider's kill flavour be identical to the killed town?


2. Kill flavor would simply be 'died' as per YCBA 3

3. Yes. I believe so, that is how I would have flipped it.



So there are two kills. SGs death flavor isn't died and it doesn't match grapes. You go ahead and explain what happened.
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Post Post #2921 (isolation #84) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:48 am

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She either did not hide. Was somehow prevented from hiding. Or hid behind the person targeted by the mafia kill and they were prevented from dying and she was not.
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Post Post #2923 (isolation #85) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:49 am

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And I do not believe she made that post regarding alchemist and then did not hide behind him.
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Post Post #2927 (isolation #86) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:56 am

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Garmr wrote:
TheWayItEnds wrote:She either did not hide. Was somehow prevented from hiding. Or hid behind the person targeted by the mafia kill and they were prevented from dying and she was not.

Are you deaf hiders can't even be targeted by any night actions


and if this was a normal that would be the end of it.

but because its not.................
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Post Post #2930 (isolation #87) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:00 am

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im suggesting that all of the suggested reasons for sg being dead dont do a good enough job of explaining it.

and the only thing left we have to do is wild speculation and move on.

so i did both.
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Post Post #2935 (isolation #88) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:05 am

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not really?

her kill flavor isnt "i died because i found scum"

so if she did hide, smart money is on it being behind alch, who would then be conftown if we hadnt already lynched him.

i think theres no value here.
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Post Post #2946 (isolation #89) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:53 am

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We arent lynching EP, hes town.
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Post Post #2955 (isolation #90) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:55 pm

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Elyse wrote:
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Explain your townreads on MOHIS and errant please and thank you. I'm willing to hear you out and cross them off my list but I need more than "they're town".


I have infiltrated the ranks of the lurkers in order to study them, how they think, how they act. I have gained deep knowledge of the truths the bind all mafia players together. I can see the lines that connect all things.

Also I read their posts and they are town.
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Post Post #3134 (isolation #91) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:46 am

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:neutral: :neutral: :neutral: :neutral:
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Post Post #3135 (isolation #92) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:50 am

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like i literally dont know how she could have made it more obvious?

why are you doubtcasting that result?
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Post Post #3139 (isolation #93) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:00 am

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yeah that post wasnt directed at you.
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Post Post #3140 (isolation #94) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:04 am

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Spider Gwen wrote:
Stormy, we're going to get this whole alignment thing with you figured out tomorrow. I don't want to go any further paranoid of you if you're town.


"Im hiding behind Stormy"

Spider Gwen wrote:Actually Stormy, let's leave Eagle be to focus on the scum we both agree with. I want to solidify the town bloc to make it seamless in that time. Not much more to say there, but I will want to revisit this before the day ends.

Spider Gwen wrote:Nope. Lynching Stranger. Stormy's town.


"Stormy is town for sure."
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Post Post #3151 (isolation #95) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:27 pm

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i mean i would have just quoted the post and typed "lol".

but i guess that works too.
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Post Post #3154 (isolation #96) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:36 pm

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yeah but on the other hand my post would have taken like 5 seconds and accomplished the same thing
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Post Post #3180 (isolation #97) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:23 am

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i dont understand how people are town reading varsoon still.
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Post Post #3187 (isolation #98) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:58 am

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Is that what we're thinking?

Oh.
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Post Post #3200 (isolation #99) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:41 am

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thats only the correct scenario if alch is a death godfather TSO
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Post Post #3211 (isolation #100) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:53 pm

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T S O wrote:
TheWayItEnds wrote:thats only the correct scenario if alch is a death godfather TSO


If you assume that Spider Gwen hid behind Alch, then yes. On the other hand, if you assume she didn't, then things seem to become a lot more straightforward.


Did this post stop existing?

Spider Gwen wrote:@Stormy: A reread of Alch wouldn't hurt. I know I haven't gotten much from his play. You might be able to see things I can't.


It doesnt seem like it...
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Post Post #3212 (isolation #101) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:55 pm

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T S O wrote:So, we now know, almost for certain, that one of EE and random is scum. Does that seem familiar to me?


there is literally nothing in SG's iso that remotely indicates either of these hides.
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Post Post #3224 (isolation #102) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:35 am

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My Other Head Is Scum wrote:
TheWayItEnds wrote:there is literally nothing in SG's iso that remotely indicates either of these hides.

Not all players crumb their actions though.
Like I don't. Ever.


hider is literally completely useless if you dont crumb your hide.
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Post Post #3226 (isolation #103) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:04 am

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oh yeah you're right, its useful if you only use it on people you're relatively sure are town.

thats way better than crumbing your hide.
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Post Post #3233 (isolation #104) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:22 am

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You can assume SG is incompetent if you want, but you'll excuse me for not joining you.
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Post Post #3234 (isolation #105) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:23 am

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especially if sprider gwen is who i think she is.
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Post Post #3237 (isolation #106) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:23 am

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Spider Gwen wrote:@Stormy: A reread of Alch wouldn't hurt. I know I haven't gotten much from his play. You might be able to see things I can't.


TSO you literally cant make this post as your last post of the day and then not follow through on it as a hider.

hiders only work if people can figure out who you hid behind.
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Post Post #3238 (isolation #107) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:30 am

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so like if she hid behind someone else we might as well be blind guessing who it is.

on the other hand i dont care if you lynch random or EE so whatever.
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Post Post #3245 (isolation #108) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:05 pm

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Passionate Storm wrote:
Spider Gwen wrote:Any protective role needs to be on either Stormy or TSO. They will be the ones taking the game forward when I die.

Who should I look into on reread SG? I just keep getting mixed signals.

Passionate Storm wrote:
Spider Gwen wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:
Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
Spider Gwen wrote:Any protective role needs to be on either Stormy or TSO. They will be the ones taking the game forward when I die.


Wut.


Totally on TSO or you. I totally planned on dying tonight.


I'm expendable in the long run. You are much more important to keeping town together and keeping the cogs turning. I'll add what I can but I don't want doc protection. The town bloc as a whole is more important.


Ok. 10-4.

Who should I focus on during my reread? I never got a clear answer.

Spider Gwen wrote:@Stormy: A reread of Alch wouldn't hurt. I know I haven't gotten much from his play. You might be able to see things I can't.


no you're right TSO.

theres nothing that remotely suggests sg's hide. I actually have no idea why i keep thinking that she crumbed it.

And a competent player would certainly have no reason to NOT just hide behind whoever after clearly not leaving an obvious crumb and just let town waste a bunch of lynches guessing at who she chose.
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Post Post #3246 (isolation #109) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:06 pm

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T S O wrote:

TheWayItEnds wrote:so like if she hid behind someone else we might as well be blind guessing who it is.


I've already explained why this
clearly isn't the case.
I'm not explaining again.



actually what you did is link a bunch of SG's posts and go oh i htink these were her reads at the time, dont mind that im skipping the only ones that matter.

which is slightly different
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Post Post #3247 (isolation #110) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:07 pm

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dear garmr,

mohis is town.

cordially yours,

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Post Post #3262 (isolation #111) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:07 pm

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prod dodge for TSO
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Post Post #3388 (isolation #112) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:24 am

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dont vig errant.
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Post Post #3390 (isolation #113) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:59 am

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i would not at all be upset if iai xxxz pv and varsoon were all dead.
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Post Post #3391 (isolation #114) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:00 am

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actually shiro is prob scum too.
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Post Post #3528 (isolation #115) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:35 am

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T S O wrote:I'm not sure there's much I can really say to TWIE. He'll vote him if he wants to.


this is true.

its nice being understood.
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Post Post #3529 (isolation #116) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:36 am

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i dont know why you're having a hard time with this.

we're not gonna lynch errant.

because im reading him as town and whatever i say goes.
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Post Post #3533 (isolation #117) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:40 am

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i sorta feel the same way about this lynch that i did with jaqens.

like i dont mind it, but im also not really that confident in a scum flip.

what happened to that iai wagon earlier.

i liked that one.
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Post Post #3535 (isolation #118) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:41 am

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i mean of the 2 id rather lynch shiro i think.
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Post Post #3536 (isolation #119) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:42 am

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like id almost lynch shiro for just
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Post Post #3539 (isolation #120) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:46 am

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even night is vig night?

that might be fine.
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Post Post #3548 (isolation #121) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:40 am

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TheWayItEnds wrote:i dont know why you're having a hard time with this.

we're not gonna lynch mohis

because im reading him as town and whatever i say goes.
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Post Post #3557 (isolation #122) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:03 am

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tso whats your 1-10 on
garmr
pv
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Post Post #3563 (isolation #123) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:41 am

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T S O wrote:7, with the caveat that Garmr could have bussed, but it's unlikely.
7
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huh.

7 on pv and varsoon feels high
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Post Post #3565 (isolation #124) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:57 am

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if pv is town i have usually read him as such at this point.
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Post Post #3618 (isolation #125) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:55 am

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Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
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T S O wrote:I feel like some battle chants would help stir up some fervour for the lynch of Eagle. Every good mob needs an anthem.


Ooh this is a good idea. We can all have a role, too!

Random can be Belle, and Dapper can be Maurice, and you can be Gaston and I'll be the Beast!


And y'all can do that kill the Beast song from the movie!


real talk though that song is great.
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Post Post #3649 (isolation #126) » Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:38 pm

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im a cop.

i have innocents on
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Post Post #3650 (isolation #127) » Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:38 pm

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and grapes i suppose
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Post Post #3717 (isolation #128) » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:27 am

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T S O wrote:The SK is the II one, in all likelihood.


my investigation comes back as innocent on the sk.

i already asked about that
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Post Post #3718 (isolation #129) » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:28 am

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regardless if errant is sk hes losing himself the game with that claim so im ruling that out.
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Post Post #3721 (isolation #130) » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:40 am

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no?

i wanted to lynch him yesterday
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Post Post #3739 (isolation #131) » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:36 am

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the itlpip death n1
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Post Post #3754 (isolation #132) » Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:00 am

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thats why TSO.
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Post Post #3759 (isolation #133) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:13 am

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no result
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Post Post #3760 (isolation #134) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:13 am

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so RB confirmed
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Post Post #3761 (isolation #135) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:15 am

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1 kill is slightly surprising
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Post Post #3764 (isolation #136) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:19 am

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sk knew that i would be protected

attempting to kill me seems really dumb
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Post Post #3767 (isolation #137) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:23 am

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i did not read 180 why do you ask?
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Post Post #3769 (isolation #138) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:25 am

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right but i guess i dont see why i had to read 180 for you to say that the SK kill feel erratic
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Post Post #3770 (isolation #139) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:25 am

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especially since we only have 1 data point for that conclusion
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Post Post #3772 (isolation #140) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:28 am

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TheWayItEnds wrote:right but i guess i dont see why i had to read 180 for you to say that the SK kill feel erratic


unless you were specifically trying to point out how this SK is not like your SK, and that I should stop suspecting you of being an SK.
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Post Post #3773 (isolation #141) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:29 am

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Which is a terrible argument given that I have 2 SK games and i could not have played them more dissimilarity
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Post Post #3778 (isolation #142) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:38 am

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if the sk had been getting RBed and today i dont have a result then there should be a kill unless the SK is dumb or doesnt read or my target was ascetic or similar.
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Post Post #3779 (isolation #143) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:39 am

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im saying i have really no concrete idea why itlepip is dead and that concerns me.
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Post Post #3782 (isolation #144) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:51 am

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Post Post #3783 (isolation #145) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:51 am

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which way does your list go?
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Post Post #3785 (isolation #146) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:54 am

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We should probably consider mass claim today
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Post Post #3789 (isolation #147) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:56 am

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well thats interesting too.
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Post Post #3790 (isolation #148) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:57 am

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what do you think the chances are that an assassin leaves people in a pool of blood?
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Post Post #3791 (isolation #149) » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:02 am

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also pv is like pretty obviously scum i think.

so like he should start our mass claim probably?
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Post Post #3809 (isolation #150) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:08 am

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Aneninen wrote:

TheWayItEnds wrote:no result

On whom?


I think that if I had wanted to divulge this info before massclaim i would have.

Aneninen wrote:
So, unless there's a GF Errant, Varsoon and MOHIS are town.



If we think that assassin is the cause of the n1 kill, GF is very much back on the table.
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Post Post #3812 (isolation #151) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:47 am

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PeregrineV wrote:
TheWayItEnds wrote:im a cop.

i have innocents on
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errant
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Can you go over briefly why you picked each player to investigate?


i could.

im not going to.

but i could.
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Post Post #3816 (isolation #152) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:47 am

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I can give you the general plan of my investigations.

In very general terms i was sorting lurkers because thats the type of game we had.

in slightly less general terms i chose people that were low content enough that i wouldnt get a solid read on them over the course of the game.

and low impact enough to not be night kill choices so that they would still be alive when i revealed.

but also not the person who was likely going to be up for lynch the following day or investigated by spidrer gwen
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Post Post #3819 (isolation #153) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:13 am

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errant claimed vig
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Post Post #3820 (isolation #154) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:13 am

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Errantparabola wrote:
I Am Innocent wrote:Not to muddy the waters but

claim even night vig


Sorry for the bad shots, from the little I read grapes and shiro felt like good targets...


VOTE: I am innocent
Claim: 2 shot vig that gains shots when I shoot scum
I was a proponent of grapes = scum
I voted Shiro as a counterwagon to EE
Errantparabola wrote:And if EE is town

This is me asking you who to shoot if EE was town because I was confident that's how it was goign to flip. You gave me no answer but you did say that Shiro was prob scum if EE was town and I agreed.

BTW, if you're scum, TSO, your game becomes infinitely better. So there's that.
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Post Post #3824 (isolation #155) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:54 am

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thats TSO and Anen next up then.
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Post Post #3827 (isolation #156) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:01 am

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TheWayItEnds wrote:the itlpip death n1
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Post Post #3833 (isolation #157) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:12 am

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That's all fine but we're still finishing mass claim.
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Post Post #3835 (isolation #158) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:15 am

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Especially since he claimed vt
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Post Post #3838 (isolation #159) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:19 am

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But instead of waiting for people to come and confirm that we should rush into a lynch?
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Post Post #3844 (isolation #160) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:05 am

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I'm dead tomorrow so I'd prefer we do this now actually.

Elyse next and then varsoon mohis
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Post Post #3872 (isolation #161) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:11 pm

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mohis claim plz
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Post Post #3906 (isolation #162) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:25 am

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well thats interesting.

they went with the riskier line.
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Post Post #3914 (isolation #163) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:35 am

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I honestly dont know what 2 people could possibly have let those night actions go through like that.
As the last rays of sunlight fade, one killer chases another through the tangled madness of the city.
A flash of steel announces the presence of his quarry.
The stage is set.
The night explodes.
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Post Post #3915 (isolation #164) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:38 am

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kinda makes me think anen could be scum?
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A flash of steel announces the presence of his quarry.
The stage is set.
The night explodes.
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Post Post #3930 (isolation #165) » Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:36 am

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T S O wrote:Garmr is still a required lynch imo.


why is this true moreso than anyone else?
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A flash of steel announces the presence of his quarry.
The stage is set.
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Post Post #4157 (isolation #166) » Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:30 am

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To be fair to Garmr...

I disagreed with "TWIE gambits a lot" in the dead thread.

But "TWIE gives reads in absolutes a lot" is a pretty accurate statement.
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A flash of steel announces the presence of his quarry.
The stage is set.
The night explodes.
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Post Post #4159 (isolation #167) » Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:44 am

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I Am Innocent wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:@EE, That push isn't ridiculous. It's what is known as a reaction test. :nod: basically, you're doing something that throws someone off their guard to get them to indirectly reveal information about themselves or others. Fake day vigs were common until it was abused and any player with my level of experience or older rolls their eyes at them.

Scum aren't going to dance and say I am scum.

@IAI, me as cop...really? Why?


Wasn't me, one of the others swore by it, u can ask him post game.

I even pointed out the "hard town" read each day by TWIE, first with MOHIS, then grapes, then EP,
but I was told that TWIE gambits all the time so I was overruled.


I disagreed with this post in the dead thread.

I dont think what you said is inaccurate.
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A flash of steel announces the presence of his quarry.
The stage is set.
The night explodes.
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Post Post #4215 (isolation #168) » Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:54 am

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/pre in
As the last rays of sunlight fade, one killer chases another through the tangled madness of the city.
A flash of steel announces the presence of his quarry.
The stage is set.
The night explodes.
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