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important setup information

Newbie Setup

Matrix6 (as designed by Cogito Ergo Sum):

	A	B	C
1	Town Jailkeeper	Vanilla Townie	Mafia Goon
2	Mafia Roleblocker	Town Cop	Town Doctor
3	Town 1-shot Bulletproof	Mafia Goon	Town Tracker

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates either one row or one column. The remaining six roles will be filled in by

mafia goons

and

vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Roleblocker

actions will take precedence over

Jailkeeper

actions should that apply. The

1-shot Bulletproof

is a passive ability that cannot be

roleblocked

.

VOTE: clockworkgirl

Name reminds me of Orianna.

Hello and good luck to everyone.

VOTE: Llamafluff

Good luck, have fun.

VOTE: SIV36

In post 7, In4Fun wrote:Good luck, have fun.

VOTE: SIV36

EBWOP

Howdy, new guy here, good luck and have fun. (ponders a bit why people are casting their votes early on)

In post 10, daRealDodo wrote:Howdy, new guy here, good luck and have fun. (ponders a bit why people are casting their votes early on)

Hi. I've seen it done in the other games I've had a look at and my understanding is that it's just to get the discussion/scumhunting moving. The more people talk the better it is for town usually so people vote to get lurkers to start posting.

It also gives us some information to start working on as we can read into who people vote for and their reaction to being voted for. If you want you can give it a shot and just vote for someone at random and see how they respond.

VOTE: Bhoysterous

For being the least boisterous one here.

Welcome to all.

I am your IC (inexperience challenged) player this game. Fancy term for saying I have been playing for a while and know the site. If you ever have any questions regarding things such as the terms I am using, rules, mechanics or anything like that, please let me know and I will get you an answer. I am a player in the game too, but I will not lie about those type of things regardless of my alignment.

As has been discussed, the game is in the RVS (random vote stage) part, where we have nothing to go on. It tends to end when someone does something that doesn't make sense, so a non-random vote is cast. I tend to be very adverse to this part of the game, as its just random, and I like the logic parts a whole lot more.

I do work at an office, so I will not post until usually around 6 or 7 at nights PST. If there is ever an emergency I might be able to get something in on my phone, but I prefer not to post like that.

@Clock - What type of information are you looking for? You note that this stage is based on reactions, so what is a reaction that would make you cast a serious vote? With me now five other people have posted.
@SIV - What are your thoughts on the brief exchange between clock and DRD?

In post 13, LlamaFluff wrote: @Clock - What type of information are you looking for? You note that this stage is based on reactions, so what is a reaction that would make you cast a serious vote? With me now five other people have posted.

I'm not totally sure really. This is literally my first time ever with this game so I'm sort of playing things by ear.
From my perspective as town at the start of the game any one of you has a 25% chance of being scum so I'm looking for anything to adjust that probability. Its early days yet and I've not really seen anything that's changed my mind one way or the other. If I had to pick someone for a serious vote I'd say Bhoysterous just because they've confirmed but haven't posted yet and that's the easiest way to deny town information. But, it's only a been a day so they're probably just busy and we should obviously not be seriously trying to lynch anyone yet.
As for saying exactly what reaction I'm looking for, that sort of gives the game away as I'd be telling scum what they need to fake to convince me.

VOTE: Bhoysterous

In post 14, clockworkgirl wrote:

In post 13, LlamaFluff wrote: @Clock - What type of information are you looking for? You note that this stage is based on reactions, so what is a reaction that would make you cast a serious vote? With me now five other people have posted.

I'm not totally sure really. This is literally my first time ever with this game so I'm sort of playing things by ear.
From my perspective as town at the start of the game any one of you has a 25% chance of being scum so I'm looking for anything to adjust that probability. Its early days yet and I've not really seen anything that's changed my mind one way or the other. If I had to pick someone for a serious vote I'd say Bhoysterous just because they've confirmed but haven't posted yet and that's the easiest way to deny town information. But, it's only a been a day so they're probably just busy and we should obviously not be seriously trying to lynch anyone yet.
As for saying exactly what reaction I'm looking for, that sort of gives the game away as I'd be telling scum what they need to fake to convince me.

VOTE: Bhoysterous

You say you haven't seen anything that would change your mind yet you cast a serious vote on Bhoysterous. Care to explain?

Also, how have JaeReed been a positive force in not denying town information while Bhoysterous have?

EBWOP:
What a I meant to ask with my last question was; how has JaeReed been a positive force in not denying town information while Bhoysterous has not been a positive force?

I'll try to proofread my own posts from now on.

In post 15, Tuberkulos wrote:

In post 14, clockworkgirl wrote:

In post 13, LlamaFluff wrote: @Clock - What type of information are you looking for? You note that this stage is based on reactions, so what is a reaction that would make you cast a serious vote? With me now five other people have posted.

I'm not totally sure really. This is literally my first time ever with this game so I'm sort of playing things by ear.
From my perspective as town at the start of the game any one of you has a 25% chance of being scum so I'm looking for anything to adjust that probability. Its early days yet and I've not really seen anything that's changed my mind one way or the other. If I had to pick someone for a serious vote I'd say Bhoysterous just because they've confirmed but haven't posted yet and that's the easiest way to deny town information. But, it's only a been a day so they're probably just busy and we should obviously not be seriously trying to lynch anyone yet.
As for saying exactly what reaction I'm looking for, that sort of gives the game away as I'd be telling scum what they need to fake to convince me.

VOTE: Bhoysterous

You say you haven't seen anything that would change your mind yet you cast a serious vote on Bhoysterous. Care to explain?

Also, how have JaeReed been a positive force in not denying town information while Bhoysterous have?

Not a serious vote, just some light encouragement to post. You can tell because I explicitly said we shouldn't try to lynch anyone yet.
Even random voting gives us some information or at least the possibility of information. Lurking gives us the minimum possible information so Bhoysterous is automatically the most suspicious to me even if Jaereed is in virtually the same position. Again though, we really don't have anything to go off at this point.

Well, you also said this:

In post 14, clockworkgirl wrote:If I had to pick someone for a serious vote I'd say Bhoysterous just because they've confirmed but haven't posted yet and that's the easiest way to deny town information.

And went on doing this:

In post 14, clockworkgirl wrote:VOTE: Bhoysterous

So why isn't your vote on Bhoysterous serious?

In post 18, Tuberkulos wrote:Well, you also said this:

In post 14, clockworkgirl wrote:If I had to pick someone for a serious vote I'd say Bhoysterous just because they've confirmed but haven't posted yet and that's the easiest way to deny town information.

And went on doing this:

In post 14, clockworkgirl wrote:VOTE: Bhoysterous

So why isn't your vote on Bhoysterous serious?

In post 14, clockworkgirl wrote:If I had to

I don't have to, we've got two weeks left. I already explained why I voted.

In post 13, LlamaFluff wrote: @SIV - What are your thoughts on the brief exchange between clock and DRD?

You mean this exchange?

In post 11, clockworkgirl wrote:

In post 10, daRealDodo wrote:Howdy, new guy here, good luck and have fun. (ponders a bit why people are casting their votes early on)

Hi. I've seen it done in the other games I've had a look at and my understanding is that it's just to get the discussion/scumhunting moving. The more people talk the better it is for town usually so people vote to get lurkers to start posting.

It also gives us some information to start working on as we can read into who people vote for and their reaction to being voted for. If you want you can give it a shot and just vote for someone at random and see how they respond.

I think daRealDodo is genuinely just curious why people are randomly voting (maybe he hasn't played mafia like that), and clockworkgirl thought that she could explain it concisely in such a way that daRealDodo would completely understand.

To me, this particular interaction does not lend any hints to their alignment.

Even though this is my fourth game, I still feel really new.

I got a tip from a mafia member in another game, and that person said that the mafia can be very stressed/uncomfortable during RVS, and the transition out of it. Considering that, I just want to point out that Tuberkulos seems the most unnatural with his posts, and is sorely sticking out to me at the moment.

In post 13, LlamaFluff wrote:As has been discussed, the game is in the RVS (random vote stage) part, where we have nothing to go on. It tends to end when someone does something that doesn't make sense, so a non-random vote is cast. I tend to be very adverse to this part of the game, as its just random, and I like the logic parts a whole lot more.

How would you help roll the discussions forward? Any particular opinion about the first 36 hours?

To anyone who has MafiaScum experience - how would you compare this start to other starts? It feels slow but maybe it's always the case in a Newbie game during RVS.

UNVOTE: SIV36

I don't want to put Bhoysterous to L-2 just yet but I wouldn't mind if he posted here. Same for Uberpro98 but I feel he'll get replaced.

In post 22, SIV36 wrote:Even though this is my fourth game, I still feel really new.

I got a tip from a mafia member in another game, and that person said that the mafia can be very stressed/uncomfortable during RVS, and the transition out of it. Considering that, I just want to point out that Tuberkulos seems the most unnatural with his posts, and is sorely sticking out to me at the moment.

I would disagree with that statement, I think its more of a personality tell than anything else. Certain players regardless of alignment are more twitchy in early stages. Same "uncomfortableness" tends to apply to power roles as well. I think things like hypocrisy, excessively reaching logic, or things to that extent are the best things to start with. If you do think Tube is scum, why not vote him though?

In post 23, In4Fun wrote: How would you help roll the discussions forward? Any particular opinion about the first 36 hours?

To anyone who has MafiaScum experience - how would you compare this start to other starts? It feels slow but maybe it's always the case in a Newbie game during RVS.

UNVOTE: SIV36

I don't want to put Bhoysterous to L-2 just yet but I wouldn't mind if he posted here. Same for Uberpro98 but I feel he'll get replaced.

Two things...

1) This is a little slow. At the same time though, games tend to be heavily dependent on what type of players are around. If you have an older group who have jobs, game goes slow. If you have a lot of people in college or younger, games can go painfully fast.
2) There probably is not a big threat of putting someone at L-2 this early if you believe they are scum. What we don't want is someone to be put at L-1 early, as someone can accidently hammer and that's not something that we really want to occur.

Also

@SIV - Why do you want to vote Boysterous here?