Mini 2004 - Birth of the Necromancer - [DERP! - MOD LOSES]

[Papa Zito]

VOTE: Nancy ez

[Papa Zito]

Pogchamp?

[Papa Zito]

I'm drowning.

[Papa Zito]

Someone sickhzmmer me zlrezdy. I don’t wznt to br in z gzme where people are this ready to mislynch on d1 before 24 hrs.

ok

VOTE: Nancy


See y'all tomorrow.

[Papa Zito]

When the game's over I'd like to know why your spelling deteriorated proportional to the size of your wagon.

[Papa Zito]

gdi eddie I wanted to hammer

[Papa Zito]

MU's format reminds me of the old Windows Phone.

Or the Zune! Remember the Zune???

Anyway verifying someone's meta on a different site is a whole new level of madness I'm glad I signed up

[Papa Zito]

I have already uncovered some very useful information:
1) https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/da ... name=Nancy Drew 39 mu has a player info database. it doesn't have any games nor work, but it's a button.
2) https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/me ... epsaysmeep a user banned on here for being under COPPA age (12) has an avatar of a hot girl far older than him.

Excellent work Eddie, this is already paying dividends.

[Papa Zito]

Did you ISO any of my posts yet, particularly Town of Lies? Diamond is Unbreakable is the only other game; where I posted anything over the required min. On d1.

Unfortunately I happen to fall firmly in the "meta is garbage" school of witchcraft and wizardry. The idea of looking at someone's play on a whole other site takes the concept to an absurd new level, which is what I was trying to say earlier. I can explain why but that just becomes a theory argument and who cares really.

[Papa Zito]

Unfortunately I happen to fall firmly in the "meta is garbage" school of witchcraft and wizardry. The idea of looking at someone's play on a whole other site takes the concept to an absurd new level, which is what I was trying to say earlier. I can explain why but that just becomes a theory argument and who cares really.

I disagree with that. I think if someone says, look at my meta from 5 years ago, than yeah.

Well you're free to disagree ofc but you'll forgive me if I'm not swayed by someone who's played as many games as I've played years.

VOTE: Nancy ez

No reason? Why not?

Who said I didn't have a reason?

[Papa Zito]

Oh goodness if I had a dollar for every time I've been asked that question I'd own the site.


Let me ask you: Why might a player place a vote on another player without a stated reason?

[Papa Zito]

But I’ve asked you now twice and you STILL won’t say what that is? Is it a secret or do you not even have one?

I almost always at least try to give a reason - esp. when explicitly asked.

It sounds like you don’t want to answer and the fact that I’ve asked you now twice reads like you really don’t have one.

oh no you avoided my question. I guess that means that just because someone asks a question doesn't mean you're obligated to answer! :3

It does indeed sound like I don't want to answer. That's because I don't want to answer. Not wanting to answer is not the same thing as not having a reason however.

I'll ask again: Can you think of any reason someone might have a reason to vote yet not want to share?


PS who the hell taught you how to use semicolons because good lord go get a refund

[Papa Zito]

No, I really can’t tbh. Why would you want to hide your reasons?

Slamming me for grammer now, seriously?

*grammar


There's any number of reasons why I'd want to hide my reasons! I'm surprised as a graduate of MU you're not able to come up with any. I've been told so often how much better mafia play is over there. This isn't a newbie game tho so I'll leave that particular theory lesson for you to chew on.

Anyway it seems people have abandoned this wagon because they saw something shiny so I guess I'll go vote your partner now.


VOTE: Kokichi

[Papa Zito]

Zito why dont you join us on eevee

I'm mad you left the Nancy wagon. I wasn't done with it yet.

[Papa Zito]

Well I was
Thats hardly an answer though
Why Kokichi and why not Eevee

unfortunately I'm eevee's partner D:

I'd rather talk to Kokichi.

[Papa Zito]

Why aren’t you answering their question?

Because I don't feel it benefits anyone at this time.

Since you're as green as grass I'll indulge you a bit. In one of my newbie games, my IC Thesp made this post:

I strongly subscribe to a limited information theory of mafia in all directions - that is, there is a significant degree of information that everyone ought to keep secret and/or is trying to keep secret. (I think it's important to assess the motivations for keeping such things undisclosed, but it is not always as important to know for certain what people are keeping secret, aside from their alignments.) To that end, I will not explain my actions all the time, nor do I think I should. I do think I owe the town explanations from time to time, and if I expect to convince anyone, I absolutely ought to give more compelling reasons for people to follow along with me.

It is worth noting that I find this approach to be more useful in finding scum, and simultaneously I tend to draw more people thinking I look scummy when I employ it.

This tenet has become core to my play, particularly early in games. I don't think whatever benefits the town will gain from my being transparent outweigh the information I get.

Okay but Zito is still a very attractive option.

hey bb

Seriously, dude? An attempt at a quickhammer this early?

Oh brass, you sweet summer child.

Papa Zito: Why are you deflecting from the Evee wagon while complaining about the ND wagon going off the rails?

Yes or no: Does the success or failure of the Eevee wagon solely depend on my presence?

[Papa Zito]

Eddie and tywin I like for town so far

What's so town about Eddie?

[Papa Zito]

well I'm convinced

[Papa Zito]

Nancy how panicked are you about D-1 majs right now?

[Papa Zito]

How about you answer my question first, instead of redirecting?

I wanted to see if you would follow up.

Why are you so interested in knowing why I think you're her partner? You already know if it's true or not and you've already decided my alignment. What's the point of your question?

[Papa Zito]

Really? A lurking prod dodger is allowed to quickhammer? Nobody thought a quicklynch on D1 page 10 was possibly a bad idea?

Man this reads fake.

Lynch Papa tomorrow

Come at me kid.

[Papa Zito]

I mean I'm right here.

Game's still open.

Make your pitch.

[Papa Zito]

Also, I don't really care if anyone thought my post about disliking Screen being allowed to hammer was fake, because it wasnt. Him hammering on page 10, prior to a claim or even multiple players posting yet, while he's given nothing in terms of content, is a joke. The fact that everyone ignores him even now is a ping. I don't know his meta, but that's not obv town play, so idk why he's being ignored. I'd like to see him actually give content, but nobody else seems to care. I wonder why?

The reason I got pissed about the Evee wagon being hammered so fast is because we are effectively back at D1, with no real info yet. Evee didn't even post reads. Screen didn't let them. That's inexcusable imo, because Srceen never posted reads either. At no point did Srceen say why they SR evee. He didn't care about being wrong, or if he was hammering a PR that gives no good info for doing so. Even if Evee was scum, forcing last reads at least makes them try to give fakes to analyze. Srceen didn't care, but why? Nobody else is even looking at Srceen for their constant prod dodging or the early hammer, but why? If Screen is town, then why wouldn't scum capitalize on throwing shade on him for the hammer? You could assume I'm scum and doing so, yet if/when I flip town, what's that leave? It would mean no scum even care about Srceen, and that's a ping for me. Hell, they've even been defended by others after I called him out at the end of D1, which now has gotten me votes.

Until Srceen give a actual content to prove otherwise, they land firmly in my scum pool for the B.S. hammer, plus the fact that nobody cares.

Question now is who would Evee protect? Zito is a distinct possibility

With that said, it's possible Zito was one of the choices Evee would protect though

VOTE: Papa Zito

Naw.

VOTE: Tywin

[Papa Zito]

tywin is obviously thinking erratically here
assuming eevee would protect nobody on his wagon is ridiculous as the whole wagon cant be scum

ego
i would assume the same but my ego would be in the way and i would say fuck those that lynched me

Can you explain what you were doing Day 1 plz

[Papa Zito]

Ok no I saw you were coasting, why were you coasting.

Like that was some in your face aggressive coasting.

[Papa Zito]

Dan can you explain your Tywin read plz because practically every one of his posts has pinged me on some level.

[Papa Zito]

@Screen:

Ok no I saw you were coasting, why were you coasting.

Like that was some in your face aggressive coasting.

@Nancy: What questions did you have that you still feel are relevant to current gamestate

[Papa Zito]

Ok.

Why didn't you declare intent to hammer/ask for a claim?

[Papa Zito]

Post 407 of nd's is actually finally a town post.

Agreed.

Tbh i really dislike turbos.

But sometimes it could benefit town to prevent multiple PRs being outed D1.

Idk their alignment so I'm not gonna choose a side here yet. They just seem overly defensive.

This is the Eevee post I’m referencing.

Now, that we know they’re town and a PR, this post takes on an entirely different meaning, a meaning that may or may not be potentially relevant.

On MS, we have a habit of running multiple people up to L-1 on Day 1 and getting multiple claims. I think that's what he was referencing there.

[Papa Zito]

So papa Zito, going to explain that scum read on me yet or no

I'm curious why it bothers you so much.

[Papa Zito]

Hey guys, I will catch up on this tonight. Busy weekend and things are crazy at work.

[Papa Zito]

Guys I'm sorry, I have to replace out. Things have gone all kinds of wrong at work so I'm doing 12 hour days and just don't have the time or energy needed to give this game the attention it deserves. I really hate to leave since this looks like a fun puzzle to solve but you guys will be better served with someone who can devote more attention than I can. Good luck!

[Papa Zito]

GJ everyone, so sorry I had to replace out.