NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[Gamma Emerald]

no you're not. I did not do nothing last night

So liek you said "what I do in my room is private". That implies you remained in your room yaknow?

[Gamma Emerald]

fyi to start I'm reading my predecessor's ISO and trying to pick up whatever pieces aren't in place

[Gamma Emerald]

Realtalk

I think xyzxyz might be scum he commented on hit and flub not dram. But he had opportunities to like in 1086 (at the end where he responded to taly)

yeh this is probs a good assessment

[Gamma Emerald]

There's a better associative to

Profii-A50

than

Xyzzy-A50

imo

at least, it's very unlikely for

Profii-Xyzzy

team.

I don't see

Xyzzy-Sky

either.

xyzzy

feels least likely scum when evaluating the big picture of my reads.

Why are people calling A50 scum rn?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: xyzzy
I think this is alright for now

[Gamma Emerald]

hm from just the posts I'm seeing here A50 feels kinda towny

[Gamma Emerald]

not yet

[Gamma Emerald]

1) Claimed VT when it wasn't necessary.
2) Is openly saying that he wants to eat an NK but there's little reason to think he would.
3) He's not explaining his stances, and he hasn't read up either.

1 and 2 seem pretty par for A50's course tbh, as for 3 I'm not sure how to feel about that.

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait, who did Gamma replace?

Why do you need to ask?

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, have you read any of the game yet?

Just some of my predecessor's ISO to know what I should be looking at (plus current events)

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, have you read any of the game yet?

Just some of my predecessor's ISO to know what I should be looking at (plus current events)

Any response to this?

[Gamma Emerald]

~snip~

holy balls that's a lot of words, but I read some of them and the post sounds solid logic-wise
is sky a wagon rn?

[Gamma Emerald]

anyway it makes zero sense to me that scum profii would be arguing on behalf of their own lynch. like 2477 as a scum post just makes zero sense to me

here is a reads list I composed by going through my previous posts and noting who I have thought is scummy throughout the game; note that in the case of Gamma Emerald at the very bottom that's mostly because of HitAlt who was the Most Scummy Of All and I don't really have a strong opinion regarding Gamma Emerald in that slot yet. even though he's down there at the bottom I don't think it makes any sense to lynch him until we have a better sense of him since it's possible HitAlt was just doing a really bad job of being town.

town
brassherald
MagnaofIllusion
Taly
Skygazer

Andrius
Elbirn
profii
Chickadee
Ausuka

Raskolnikov
HeWhoSwims

the worst
Inferno390
Gamma Emerald
mafia

Okay this read on me is ass-tastic. No real analysis of my content despite me feeling like there's

something

to work with, and just spouting "HitAlt" wasn't town without any logic. This plus the fact I'm a claimed PR with considerable towncred make me really confident this is discrediting scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

holy cheez whiz the votes are split
Can everyone list off their top 3 scumreads so we can have some consolidation?
For me it's xyzzy, skygazer, and I guess out of the other wagons I see HWS is the one I object least to so I'll put that as a third for now
PEdit: well chickadee is town to me now

[Gamma Emerald]

we do normal popcorn strats where we make sure the scummiest claim first? Why are people being dense here

[Gamma Emerald]

why does the wagon im NOT on consist of all the people that have either NOT actually read my posts {Almost50 and Gamma/Andrius to an extent} or HAVE actually read my posts? {MOI, Rask, Inferno}

Doesn't that include...everyone?

[Gamma Emerald]

Because I've been restricted to my phone in part. And because we all don't want to lynch Chick or Sky.

Chick is town anyway
Sky I was interested in but then it died out

[Gamma Emerald]

Pine, replace me.

I've had no desire to play mafia for the past four days and I don't see it getting any better. Was fun at times and let's get some new blood who'll carry the cape when I don't care to play.

Chrono out.

rip the one guy I was most excited to play with
w/e, the rest of the playerlist is good too

[Gamma Emerald]

what's the VC at rn

[Gamma Emerald]

It does answer what you're saying. You're just being dense or scum.

no it doesn't

[Gamma Emerald]

It does answer what you're saying. You're just being dense or scum.

no it doesn't

i'm saying that the vigpool is of players the majority read as scum, i.e not based on my own reads. this is because tw, as the vig, will realistically be looking to target players who are currently seen as scummy enough to get a major wagon, and although i want it to, this does not include Skygazer.

i'm fine with lynching xyzzy if we need to and if I really wanted to avoid that i wouldn't have defended profii. if that happens I'm fine with not targeting sky. all i'm doing is making sure that tw targets in the wagons so i can target outside that and he won't vig my target. as of now, Skygazer is not a wagon so she doesn't fit in the pool of lynchbait that i believe tw would be willing to shoot in.

is this clear enough or do i need to write more?

okay this makes sense
What if we made distinct (non-overlapping) lists of targets?

[Gamma Emerald]

What I'm proposing is already that.

good

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah I'm shooting Rask tonight

hammer here

isn't he a PR though

[Gamma Emerald]

oh yeah one thingerarooni

gamma/hitalt != brassherald from today (true)

and if xyzy flips town maybe look at brass abit because he kinda felt half hearted in his opposition to it

what does the highlighted text mean?

[Gamma Emerald]

well hey maybe y'all'll get lucky and you'll just keep lynching town and nightkilling scum

I dunno, but this doesn't look like scum trolling to me, and I just dunno whom to lynch anymore.

UNVOTE:

alright
VOTE: Skygazer
this was my number 2 anyway

[Gamma Emerald]

Am I invisible to you guys?

?

[Gamma Emerald]

Rask/Ausuka is town.

how is this unpopular given that Ausuka is clearing Rask? (this goes to everyone)

[Gamma Emerald]

I can probs be a sounding board but not rn, gtg

[Gamma Emerald]

Andrius was MOI's "sounding board?"

I don't like that comparison, it sound suspiciously like MOI was just using him to make himself sound better....

Keeping this in mind for later.

what do you think sounding board means

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok almost
but let's say i didn't believe you when you say you're scum here and scumclaiming and what have you
in a hypothetical, if you had actually rolled town instead who do you think is most likely scum here?

wait why is a50 claiming scum

[Gamma Emerald]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

SKY WHY ARE YOU SO DIFFERENT HERE

oh yeah, he actually looks pretty dedicated to solving there
gonna have to cross-reference that to here to get a definitive statement but I'm excited for what may come

[Gamma Emerald]

Also everyone can chill re:Worst's obvious trolling regading Rask. Regardless of theworst's actual alignment he has reasons to be obsfucating in what he expected was twilight about his target. Rask turns up dead and no obvious Town thought process body appears and hang the Serial Killer I mean theworst. It's pretty simple. Duckling isn't Town but he's not stupid either so the chances of him actually taking that shot are basically 0/100.

okay I figured it probably got too ridiculous at some stage, I was praying for a ninja thread lock

VOTE: Skygazer

Ah caught up

VOTE: xyzzy

wat

[Gamma Emerald]

1) TW is mechanically confirmed to not be scum. Why is he on this list.

No one has verified his claim though? All we know is he tried to kill someone and he is claiming he target dram.

[Gamma Emerald]

1) no. SK is scum imo and the optimal play for anyone but tw who shot Dram is obviously to stay quiet and shoot tw at night.

2) andrius was obvtown and I doubt MOI faked an inno on his buddy like that. chick is town because Nosferatu is town.

3) hmmm it's almost like you don't need to literally case someone for them to be potential scum

3)

1) SK is not scum and the fact that you are saying that makes my thing you are scum afraid of getting shot. You are throwing far too much shade the killing role’s direction.

2) But by this, MOI is conftown, because Andy confirmed he got the banana.

3) Considering that most of the thread disagrees with you on brass!scum imo, a case would be appreciated. Thanks. Which is not to mention the fact that by throwing HWS and brass on the same level, you’re implying that there was 2 scum on Dram’s wagon...?

1) SK is not town.
2) Uhhh...scum fruit vendor exists?
3) I actually felt a bit sketchy about brass myself when he was engaging me, it felt awkward and fake

[Gamma Emerald]

Andrius was MOI's "sounding board?"

I don't like that comparison, it sound suspiciously like MOI was just using him to make himself sound better....

Keeping this in mind for later.

what do you think sounding board means

I think that it means that you’re using a person or thing as a control for the things you say, so you can test whether or not they sound reasonable or not.
Which given the circumstances sounds like he’s saying he was using Andy’s willingness to agree with him to make his arguments sound better. Which is not something that would come from a town mindset.

Going to work on this case on MOI and try to have it done before the day is over.

Sounding board is more of a person you work with to make sure your thinking is rational, sorta like a logic proofreader.

[Gamma Emerald]

But again, why does that come from town?

I mean it's not an always town thing, but it's not as scummy as you make it out to be
basically, CHILL.

[Gamma Emerald]

1) TW is mechanically confirmed to not be scum. Why is he on this list.

No one has verified his claim though? All we know is he tried to kill someone and he is claiming he target dram.

Hit verified he can kill and no one has stepped up to CC. Until someone does, he’s not scum, he’s vig or SK. So we do not lynch him until further notice.

SK is scum holy shit
SCUM = NOT TOWN HOW DO YOU NOT GET THIS
If you weren't infamous for being lynchbait I'd probably want your head here, but this is seriously pinging me

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, has anyone considered the fact that TW is a PGO and dram was sent to shoot him last night?

NO because if he was I'd be DEAD. Nice try, but you've officially gone beyond "he is mildly annoying" to "he is trying to pass logic that doesn't not frikkin work ever".
VOTE: Inferno390
FOR GREAT JUSTICE!

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, has anyone considered the fact that TW is a PGO and dram was sent to shoot him last night?

NO because if he was I'd be DEAD. Nice try, but you've officially gone beyond "he is mildly annoying" to "he is trying to pass logic that doesn't not frikkin work ever".
VOTE: Inferno390
FOR GREAT JUSTICE!

Unless the loud player that targeted you last night is a protective.

hmmm where's the scum kill then?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, has anyone considered the fact that TW is a PGO and dram was sent to shoot him last night?

NO because if he was I'd be DEAD. Nice try, but you've officially gone beyond "he is mildly annoying" to "he is trying to pass logic that doesn't not frikkin work ever".
VOTE: Inferno390
FOR GREAT JUSTICE!

Unless the loud player that targeted you last night is a protective.

hmmm where's the scum kill then?

Someone told me once that PGO doesn’t die if they are shot at
Just check the wiki and this is obviously not true
Nvm then

That's PROBABLY a misunderstanding from translating the EM role Granny to the MS role PGO, which are similar except for that distinction

[Gamma Emerald]

profii is selling himself to the rope, and I could just lynch that because it's a shitshow of WIFOM.
xyzzy isn't around when he should be, but he's been unhelpful.
I just forgot HWS was in this game, so why not lynch that since scum would supposedly be demotivated and he could be scum anyway?
A50 is ?????? - reasons to think they're town and scum
Sky is ?????? - reasons to think they're town and scum

You know what I was opposing Profii on principle because of the fact he seemed to be what everyone wanted, but given what's written here plus general apathy towards this gameday I think I'm no longer in opposition

[Gamma Emerald]

My guess from setup spec perspective is Gamma is probscum, but should definitely be left alive til late as he's a source of valuable valuable lunchmeats regardless of alignments.

Uhhmm what are you even saying here

[Gamma Emerald]

Quick question claim wise, did Gemerald claim that the worst killed dram or did the worst claim the kill after Gemerald claimed to know whodoneit?

Firstly it was HitAlt who claimed the result, and it was only claimed that tw did a kill, he said he killed dram

[Gamma Emerald]

Finally someone who refers to me as Harold

I think it's a bad idea to count all innocents as "never lynch", won't there be 2 or 3 or even 4 innos a night if Gamma, Andrius, Ausuka and moi are all alive?

my role isn't hardclearing until scum are mostly gone, for now I can only get "guilties"

[Gamma Emerald]

no but really i already thought of that
VERY unlikely 2 scumteam kills did not go through
unless you are speccing TW as a multiball member

That was the implication, yes. TW would be a wolf.

Oh gosh whyyyyy *facedesks*

[Gamma Emerald]

What does "profii is selling himself to the rope" mean?

arguing for his own lynch basically

[Gamma Emerald]

no but really i already thought of that
VERY unlikely 2 scumteam kills did not go through
unless you are speccing TW as a multiball member

That was the implication, yes. TW would be a wolf.

Oh gosh whyyyyy *facedesks*

?

the multiball spec is just not something I want to deal with

[Gamma Emerald]

They're a meme role originally but the current normal rules have lots of cool modifiers

e.g. loyal fruit vendor only gives fruit to people of the same alignment so can be cleared by fruit receiver claiming first

weak fruit vendor gives a piece of fruit to scum then dies

etc. etc.

actually the original intent of fruit vendor is to be tracker-cleared (yes I'm a nerd, get over it)

[Gamma Emerald]

I hate to do this given xyzzy is actually backing up a couple things I am also saying but
VOTE: xyzzy

[Gamma Emerald]

Note to self - go back and see if any multiball theory floaters also are on the “Xyzzy is a Dram counterwagon” train because those thoughts are pretty antithetical to a Town mindset if posited together.

Oh man that's some tasty shit
unfortunately this is not an effort I can dedicate my time to rn

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm down with 3105

VOTE: MoI

I think I'm probably down with that as well
do people want me to claim my result?

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh and the other fishy thing that’s making me consider things is that Ausuka targeted he person who initially suggested quite early on that the 2 vendors can be loyal/disloyal - opposite sides

No ones called that out and no ones callled out the random difference in xshot modifiers so idk, seems off

1685

I don't get the point of the speculation about modifiers. What conclusion can we reach from that? What do I, as scum, gain from clearing a player who speculated about a Mafia disloyal fruit vendor?

so like can we fuck off about disloyal FV? If scum have FV it's probably regular, not frills

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait, who did the worst shoot? Who did Jingle visit?

Who killed A50?

Who shot JR?

Jr is fucking who?

[Gamma Emerald]

idk
I'm mostly just in a not-giving-the-game full attention state

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd still like someone to provide an explanation as to where the Mafia kill went.

I did not activate a BP shot last night, so I know it was not me this time, but I'm kind of concerned that we have only had 2 NKs, a person who claims he can see all attempts at NKs who has not revealed anyone other than the worst who had already claimed.

I had to look this up, but Gamma is hitalt, and hitalt claimed to see all attempts at kills, I want answers from Gamma, who has made kill attempts? Who was the second shooter Night 1 that hitalt kept alluding to?

what no what role would even do that
I checked profii last night, he didn't kill anyone

[Gamma Emerald]

also please point out where exactly hitalt says that because that's some weird shit to be saying

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually I think the confusion was hit alt said he had 2 results and someone else said he can hear all kills - then it perpetuates


I imagine HitAlt had 1 result - his PR, 2nd result - loud protective, then someone got confused

(Off top of my head without checking so it’ll be something. Like that)

yeah that's basically it

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually I'd propose doc don't worry about me because I'm only situationally useful until lategame where I can start clearing people
do you want vig to hold shot as well?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why is no lynch favourable to HWS lynch?

I cannot answer this question. And the plan is very contingent on the worst being willing to holster.

I am not of the opinion that your loud visitor was necessarily the doctor. They could just as easily have been a tracker. Further, if both you and MoI are town and they have one tracker, they should still try to kill you.

Oh... Given that fruits seem to vary by night but remain the same between you and MoI, claims should happen like this:

Fruit/No Fruit in the first 3 days of the phase. Loud/no loud claim after that. Fruit vendors claim which fruit recipient was their target after that. Fruit recipient of loud claims what fruit. Fruit recipient of no loud claims what fruit.

if mafia have a loud tracker what was the one on me? where's the other loud if both loud doc and loud tracker are active?

[Gamma Emerald]

We're not no lynching and jingles actually pushing some really scummy shit right now

Yeah now that I think about this I agree whole heartedly about jingle's plan being horribad
like we no lynch and follow the cop when we don't have the roles that can help proven (I'm not very useful, this refers the Ausuka and MOI)? This is just putting the game in scum's hands imo.
VOTE: Jingle

[Gamma Emerald]

can't bring myself to lynch someone who's asking for it
no but really he towntold a little and gamma said he didnt... try to kill anyone last night if I'm understanding what detective does?

I believe it checks if someone ever killed/tried to kill
so it's a little better than tracker wrt finding killers but that's the only thing it does

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess this is cleared by fruit buuuut the play itself by GE isn't that convincing to me - especially the later part of the ISO has way more role/setup discussion than reads forming imo. HitAlt looks better to me. He really wants to out Duck - he knows he killed Dram - which I think is scummier if TW=vig but townier if TW=serial killer.

two misconceptions here
1) I don't have anything to do with fruit
2) HA didn't know who tw killed, he just knew tw killed

[Gamma Emerald]

I uh kinda believe that?

We are massclaiming if we have a modifier or not.

I obviously do because I am Loyal.

okay wait wait wait
Do you know what this is following? Theorizing on Loud doctor. This could possibly be scum. I think we should do this, get HWS to verify it, then lynch him. Thoughts?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm a town vig and that's not remotely important since I'll be sorted by nk anyway. The fact you're preoccupied with SKcasing the vig and not finding groupscum who are the actual threat here is basically the reason I'm still not totally satisfied you're town.

so just confirming. I will not be claiming whether or not I have a modifier, and you being paranoid about whether I'm not a serial killer rather than hunting for actual scum is anti town wincon

tw might have a point here

[Gamma Emerald]

Loud protective doesn't have to claim at all since I know the modifier is there. Also dram was the only kill tw could have committed GE.

DID I FREAKING SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE WORST BEING GROUPSCUM? NO. I almost said something but I dropped it when I relaized "right if he were groupscum the real vig/sk would have shot him"
As for loud modifier, GOOD. Could still be a scum role though, but I'm not concerned about fishing for now.

[Gamma Emerald]

How dare I defend myself when I'm about to be lynched as town huh

I for sure will enjoy wondering about tw a lot the next days

How can the protective even be found out? I'm only asking for modifiers on power roles that are already out .

the ones who don't claim modifier
I see the concern but honestly I think the pool is a little large still so not too worried

[Gamma Emerald]

can't bring myself to lynch someone who's asking for it
no but really he towntold a little and gamma said he didnt... try to kill anyone last night if I'm understanding what detective does?

I believe it checks if someone ever killed/tried to kill
so it's a little better than tracker wrt finding killers but that's the only thing it does

Hey gamma you kinda have to find this out its somewhat of a big deal
Roles are not really supposed to be ambiguous in that way in normal queue (people should generally understand the basic of what their role does) so get this sorted out one way or another

Yeah it's for the entire game up til then, not just the night I check them

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Magna

Was scumreading A50, still voted xyzzy.

how do you think the scum decided on A50 as a kill?

If they are scum reading A50, by removing them ,they force themselves to justify new reasons for lynching whoever they pick... that surely makes the game harder for them?

Are you even reading the game

[Gamma Emerald]

jingle scares me so much and I kinda agree he smells like town here ;n;

VOTE: profii
/in

Careful

careful about what

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: profii
yeah I'm gonna pass on whatever bs you're trying to float by mr profii

[Gamma Emerald]

Where is the good in goodbye?
btw when I first tried to find the song lyrics I got a song by The Script, which is cool but not what I wanted

[Gamma Emerald]

>campaigns for his own lynch
>acts shifty when close to lynch
no thanks?

[Gamma Emerald]

Lynch me and I’m killing TW. He’s a SK

I would point out that regardless of that he is actively helping the town by thinning out the scumpool but I think you know that and are using it so that we won't lynch you so

Yeah no you don't hold the game hostage after submitting earlier. You need to die.

[Gamma Emerald]

Lynch me and I’m killing TW. He’s a SK

I would point out that regardless of that he is actively helping the town by thinning out the scumpool but I think you know that and are using it so that we won't lynch you so

Yeah no you don't hold the game hostage after submitting earlier. You need to die.

I thought I was being fairly obvious that I’d do something in death and I was clear enough I don’t like TW in this game

So I don’t see what holding hostage is about

The fact you seem to be giving ultimatums

[Gamma Emerald]

Just ftr this is why I think profii is scum here.

Normals already ban duplicates (except in obvious cases like Neighbour).

Normals already ban duplicates (except in obvious cases like Neighbour).

I can't find this rule anywhere.

I'm not sure if this rule was implemented or not, actually. It was discussed backstage, but I don't remember if it went through or not.

This conversation was in mid July, well after this game went underway. Both Chickadee and profii have claimed the role Town Vengeful. I feel like if a duplicate game had been passed through the NRG recently there wouldn't have been any uncertainty about this at all. Feel free to correct me if I'm angleshooting myself in the foot / reading too much into it / interpreting incorrectly but that's how I see this.

Additionally I think profii's threats are scum motivated. Town him wants to get lynched so I don't see why he threatens to kill TW. He refuses to listen to people who suggest otherwise so clearly he didn't want to discuss his target- so why did he talk about it? I think in general profii's behaviour here is indicative of someone who doesn't actually want to get lynched.

I said this in the thread where cfj commented: duplicates aren't banned. lemme pull two examples

[Gamma Emerald]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=67016
two macho townies
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=68600
two ascetic townies
I don't think two vengeful is a stretch based on this
so while I still think profii is scummy, this isn't a reason to suspect him

[Gamma Emerald]

btw Pine talking about summer camp reminds me of my times at scout camp, where we'd sometimes play a modified version of f2f mafia

[Gamma Emerald]

omg that's amazing
we generally had like 10 kids playing and we'd have like 2 mafia, two "cops" (basically mason vigs), a sk, and the rest were civilians. The games went by FAST. I did play a game that was closer to normal mafia during my first scout camp, but it was with another troop that had brought actual role cards (not mafiascum one, the ones they brought had designs that looked like Order of the Stick characters). I played like two games, and we had some cool roles, like cupid and hunter. I don't want to fill the game with this talk so after the game ends please remind me to post an extended version of this to my gtkas

[Gamma Emerald]

As sent to pine

Thanks! I loved it. One of the better/more fun games I've played around here. I'll follow it hopefully.

If one of sky/chick is scum and TW is serial killer I'll demand the entire town will buy me drinks

Pay up yall!

But for real I loved this and I loved you all as a playerlist so THANKS FOR ALL EVERYONE!

Also TW you are one of my favourite players here if not #1 but can we please end up on the same faction again for once

well I'm broke so good luck

[Gamma Emerald]

Also sorry a50

Yeah, no problem. Just remember that I do get NK'd as a CLAIMED VANILLA TOWNIE all the same. My claim canNOT be trusted by the "evil forces" and those who know me well know that for a fact.

I feel so so bad for this. I kinda realised both of my kill prospects in you and HWS were probably town but you were always a VT. I'm ok with the SK rant thread being released BTW. and in that I think I expressed my burning desire to kill scum again but the fact that if MoI flipped green I was doomed.

Yeah btw I was right on A50, ha

[Gamma Emerald]

Working title: Plead Your Case
Size: 14 players*
Bastard: No, some disclosed elements
Mechanics: In the confirmation stage, everyone will submit a ranked-order list of preference to become the game’s Magistrate. The Magistrate will become a Town-aligned Treestump, with an important caveat: theirs is the only vote which matters. What the Magistrate says, goes. They have the sole power to dictate lynches, and thus all cases and arguments will be addressed to the Magistrate. They will also have power over procedure, able to set new rules and restrictions (within reason). The remainder of the players will then be issued standard roles in a typical 10:3 spread.

looks cool

[Gamma Emerald]

Easy to selectively scumhunt when you know who 4/5 of the scum are.

as SK it's pretty easy to smell who scum are by how focused they become on you and how badly they ignore groupscum hunting

So my theory I crafted early in my mafia career was RIGHT! Mafia DO freak out about SK.

[Gamma Emerald]

Join my game in the mini theme queue (the worst Idea Mafia)

[Gamma Emerald]

I know I fell down a bit on the flavor this game, and for that you have my apologies.

However, if you enjoy my design aesthetics and the early flavor of this game, Aristophanes and I are in the process of designing a new theme game.

Working title: Plead Your Case
Size: 14 players*
Bastard: No, some disclosed elements
Mechanics: In the confirmation stage, everyone will submit a ranked-order list of preference to become the game’s Magistrate. The Magistrate will become a Town-aligned Treestump, with an important caveat: theirs is the only vote which matters. What the Magistrate says, goes. They have the sole power to dictate lynches, and thus all cases and arguments will be addressed to the Magistrate. They will also have power over procedure, able to set new rules and restrictions (within reason). The remainder of the players will then be issued standard roles in a typical 10:3 spread.

I just realized this is the reverse of revenge of camn